Biased/incompetent media coverage

[Dark Sharks]

Meh, damned if we win, damned if we don't.

Just show up, play with some heart and get the job done and the media can write whatever the * they want.

 

[mad_eagle]

Garry sticking up for Schofield and upset with Oliver, what's going on!

Hell has frozen over...

 

[Agent93]

Hell has frozen over...

To be honest it is bloody cold this morning.

 

[Agent93]

Anyone else get annoyed with various media outlets using 3 vertical stripes as our team's icon?

 

[brabs]

Anyone else get annoyed with various media outlets using 3 vertical stripes as our team's icon?

I despise the white, whoever thought it was a good idea to add it to our jumper should be shot, then the person who did the tri panel should be shot too

 

[Quinz]

I despise the white, whoever thought it was a good idea to add it to our jumper should be shot, then the person who did the tri panel should be shot too

Those poor Wembley school children!

 

[MKMatty]

Those poor Wembley school children!

They have it coming

 

[avishka5]

Those poor Wembley school children!

Actual story or taking the piss?

 

[brabs]

Those poor Wembley school children!

Ok, maybe not shot, I'll send Will "Clocker" Schofield around to sort them out.

 

[boondy]

Ochre what does the miserable prick think of barry hall I mean Will Schofields knocking Oliver out.

 

[Grahame]

Anyone else get annoyed with various media outlets using 3 vertical stripes as our team's icon?

Correct me if I am wrong (as I'm sure someone will) but didn't our move from blue-gold to blue-yellow-white coincide with sponsorship from the Buckridge Group - whose corporate colours where blue-yellow-white?

 

[Grahame]

And anyone else notice The Age article by Sam McClure that tonight Gill McLachlan is hosting his annual 'coaches dinner' at his (Melbourne) home? McClure notes McLachlan "makes it clear each year that interstate coaches aren't expected to come".
BTW this year Beveridge can't make it and Fagan just happens to be in Melbourne. Otherwise it is "the 10 senior coaches".

So can I assume these 'non-interstate' coaches will take up issues like unequal fixturing, the effects of fortnightly travel on recovery and longevity, the fact that it is apparently further from Melb to Perth than Perth to Melb, the unfair home ground advantage of the MCG-based teams in a GF, that a FTB tag is attached to one Perth team while overlooking home ground advantages at Launceston or Geelong, etc etc?

I will go and have my tablets now.

 

[chunkylover]

And anyone else notice The Age article by Sam McClure that tonight Gill McLachlan is hosting his annual 'coaches dinner' at his (Melbourne) home? McClure notes McLachlan "makes it clear each year that interstate coaches aren't expected to come".
BTW this year Beveridge can't make it and Fagan just happens to be in Melbourne. Otherwise it is "the 10 senior coaches".

So can I assume these 'non-interstate' coaches will take up issues like unequal fixturing, the effects of fortnightly travel on recovery and longevity, the fact that it is apparently further from Melb to Perth than Perth to Melb, the unfair home ground advantage of the MCG-based teams in a GF, that a FTB tag is attached to one Perth team while overlooking home ground advantages at Launceston or Geelong, etc etc?

I will go and have my tablets now.

No access to any of the melbourne grounds for training or even captain runs would be something that needs to be brought up.

 

[Brave Sir Robin]

And anyone else notice The Age article by Sam McClure that tonight Gill McLachlan is hosting his annual 'coaches dinner' at his (Melbourne) home? McClure notes McLachlan "makes it clear each year that interstate coaches aren't expected to come".
BTW this year Beveridge can't make it and Fagan just happens to be in Melbourne. Otherwise it is "the 10 senior coaches".

So can I assume these 'non-interstate' coaches will take up issues like unequal fixturing, the effects of fortnightly travel on recovery and longevity, the fact that it is apparently further from Melb to Perth than Perth to Melb, the unfair home ground advantage of the MCG-based teams in a GF, that a FTB tag is attached to one Perth team while overlooking home ground advantages at Launceston or Geelong, etc etc?

I will go and have my tablets now.

Why should interstate coaches be expected to go?

They're busy trying to get players up for a game on the weekend and going to Melbourne takes them out for the best part of two days. It's an unnecessary distraction at best.

Those issues can all be discussed at another time, and to be honest just as easily by someone who is not a senior coach - e.g. the CEO.

 

[larrikin]

Why should interstate coaches be expected to go?

They're busy trying to get players up for a game on the weekend and going to Melbourne takes them out for the best part of two days. It's an unnecessary distraction at best.

Those issues can all be discussed at another time, and to be honest just as easily by someone who is not a senior coach - e.g. the CEO.

I agree, but it defeats the whole purpose of the Coach's dinner with the CEO.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Yeah it feels like a bit of a Victorian clique.

Maybe we could send a lesser member of the coaching staff.

 

[Brave Sir Robin]

I agree, but it defeats the whole purpose of the Coach's dinner with the CEO.

Only if the purpose is for it to be a major chance for the coaches to raise their gripes. Maybe it is, I dunno, but there are certainly other avenues to do that as well.

It probably is a bit cliquey, but I don't really see the issue. It sounds like the invitation is to everyone with the understanding that attendance isn't compulsory for those who it would put out a lot.

To me it looks more than anything like a PR exercise for Gil.

 

[kempy]

No chance of humble pie being served up at this dinner by the AFL, I suppose?

 

[Agent93]

Correct me if I am wrong (as I'm sure someone will) but didn't our move from blue-gold to blue-yellow-white coincide with sponsorship from the Buckridge Group - whose corporate colours where blue-yellow-white?

Tri-panel uniform and current logo were introduced 2000. BGC were major sponsor 97-99. White piping was first introduced on the wings jumper int 95.

 

[Grahame]

Yeah it feels like a bit of a Victorian clique.

Yes that was my exact point. If the reason for the dinner is so Gill can listen to the concerns of the coaches then it is, of course, going to pretty much exclude non-Vic coaches (because it is in Melbourne mid-season). And so any concerns unique to non-Vic clubs will not get raised. And any issues only concerning Vic clubs may get an airing (without 'interstate' coach feedback).

I agree it would be a distraction for non-Vic coaches going. But given this thread is about pro-Vic bias I am raising this as an example.

I don't think he should be having dinner with any group of coaches - and especially not those who represent clubs already disproportionately advantaged. Ideally, any coaches meeting should involve all coaches at a mutually convenient time (like off-season) and should not automatically be in Melbourne.

The issues I raised - tongue-in-cheek - will not get a mention from the Vic coaches. Why should they? These are some of the things that advantage the Vic clubs to the disadvantage of the non-Vic clubs.

 

[Truckosaurus]

It'd make more sense to have it pre or post-season (or during that single bye week we don't have), but then fixturing has never been a strong suit for the AFL, has it?

 

[frenchconnection]

Hell has frozen over...

Perhaps he's using reverse psychology

 

[frenchconnection]

Yes that was my exact point. If the reason for the dinner is so Gill can listen to the concerns of the coaches then it is, of course, going to pretty much exclude non-Vic coaches (because it is in Melbourne mid-season). And so any concerns unique to non-Vic clubs will not get raised. And any issues only concerning Vic clubs may get an airing (without 'interstate' coach feedback).

I agree it would be a distraction for non-Vic coaches going. But given this thread is about pro-Vic bias I am raising this as an example.

I don't think he should be having dinner with any group of coaches - and especially not those who represent clubs already disproportionately advantaged. Ideally, any coaches meeting should involve all coaches at a mutually convenient time (like off-season) and should not automatically be in Melbourne.

The issues I raised - tongue-in-cheek - will not get a mention from the Vic coaches. Why should they? These are some of the things that advantage the Vic clubs to the disadvantage of the non-Vic clubs.

Why didn't they hold it in Adelaide - maybe then it would be more fair as it would mean WA coaches not having to travel as far and also the Vic coaches would have to travel

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Why didn't they hold it in Adelaide - maybe then it would be more fair as it would mean WA coaches not having to travel as far and also the Vic coaches would have to travel

Because Gil's house isn't in Adelaide?

 

[ziad]

the message is clear