Black and White

[blueman91]

Just recently had a glance at the collingwood forums and found a great delusional thread created that so many jumped on and agreed with. Collingwood will win the flag in 2010....is this mob right in the head or what? The way they give all these descriptions and talk-ups of their players is insanely absurd. "With our solid, tight-knit defence (best in the league), best ruck combo and T cloke, medhurst and Anthony ready to fire up forward we are well on our way". These type of comments were appearing and having a nice little laugh. Dont they understand even if they were to go on and make top 4 or something come the 9th month of the year they will absolutely crumble in a pile of their own as they usually do. Every year they claim they will win it, like to know when its coming lol. Tell me what you all think?? Are they just suffering that much that they are hoping for a bit of good fortune??

 

[thylacine60]

Not-Carlton Board.

 

[Ytoojae]

Who really cares about Cololingwood?

They've become the "aawwwww that's so cute" club of the AFL. Not good enough to be hated and not at the level to be really respected.

This off-season has proven something to me and it's why so many of them post on our board. Cololingwood are jealous of what we have achieved.

We may have been the worst performed team of the decade (2000-2009) but along the way we've grown to be the clear cut most hated team in the AFL bar none. Teams are envious of the mass top talent that the club has "Carltank", etc. and while they love to rub in our poor record for the past decade it is out of jealousy of the top young kids we now have than anything else.

Who cares about Cololingwood? Just another also ran.

 

[Sin City]

Not like those ferals to get ahead of themselves at this time of year. It's good though, the more they build themselves up the better the excuses are in mid-September.

I was really impressed with their backline last night, I don't think they're far wrong about it being the best in the league, it's certainly up there. The rest of the team just aren't good enough though. The Saints were going at about 1/4 pace and I thought the Pies most dangerous forward was actually the ruckman, Jolley.

 

[The Toad]

Who really cares about Cololingwood?

They've become the "aawwwww that's so cute" club of the AFL. Not good enough to be hated and not at the level to be really respected.

This off-season has proven something to me and it's why so many of them post on our board. Cololingwood are jealous of what we have achieved.

We may have been the worst performed team of the decade (2000-2009) but along the way we've grown to be the clear cut most hated team in the AFL bar none. Teams are envious of the mass top talent that the club has "Carltank", etc. and while they love to rub in our poor record for the past decade it is out of jealousy of the top young kids we now have than anything else.

Who cares about Cololingwood? Just another also ran.

Come on Yj, Doesn't matter how their travelling they should always be hated.

I agree with the jealousy though, they see just how good we are going to be and it scares the shit out them.

 

[ballanFYNE]

Who really cares about Cololingwood?

They've become the "aawwwww that's so cute" club of the AFL. Not good enough to be hated and not at the level to be really respected.

This off-season has proven something to me and it's why so many of them post on our board. Cololingwood are jealous of what we have achieved.

We may have been the worst performed team of the decade (2000-2009) but along the way we've grown to be the clear cut most hated team in the AFL bar none. Teams are envious of the mass top talent that the club has "Carltank", etc. and while they love to rub in our poor record for the past decade it is out of jealousy of the top young kids we now have than anything else.

Who cares about Cololingwood? Just another also ran.

Fev?

 

[Beloved]

I couldn't give the slightest crap what they think about their Premiership chances.

 

[ESKIE]

I think they;re over-rated...but I'm biased...they do have an over inflated opinion of themselves, but that's Eddie for ya

 

[thylacine60]

Eddie should get back home asap. The names of downhill skiers like Davis and Medhurst are way easier to pronounce.

 

[Funkalicous]

I reckon they've got a pretty good team this year. Their weakness from last year was their ruck and midfield depth, and to their credit they addressed it in the off-season. They even managed to do so with their "We don't trade our players" policy. Although I think that might cost them some respect and dignity in future trade periods...

The other thing to remember is they have the best senior and developing coaches in the business. I don't know how they do it, but they turn some pretty ordinary footballers into decent players. I'm betting they could take Richmond's list and make them a final's shot. Heck, imagine what they could do with our list?

 

[thylacine60]

I reckon they've got a pretty good team this year. Their weakness from last year was their ruck and midfield depth, and to their credit they addressed it in the off-season. They even managed to do so with their "We don't trade our players" policy. Although I think that might cost them some respect and dignity in future trade periods...

The other thing to remember is they have the best senior and developing coaches in the business. I don't know how they do it, but they turn some pretty ordinary footballers into decent players. I'm betting they could take Richmond's list and make them a final's shot. Heck, imagine what they could do with our list?

Let me get this straight. Our team would be substantially better with the Collingwood development panel replacing ours. How many wins are we talking - over what period of time do you think? I don't quite see this.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

If they reckon a forward setup of Leigh Brown, that other, other Cloke and Jack Anthony is going to win them a flag, then delusion has well and truly set in.

Add the All-Australian bagel Davis, hot and cold Medhurst and shit for brains Didak.

A 57 year old chb, who if he falls over, then wrap up the chooks.

What the heck is plan B?

 

[thylacine60]

Coaching conflict excuses?

 

[HBF]

I reckon they've got a pretty good team this year. Their weakness from last year was their ruck and midfield depth, and to their credit they addressed it in the off-season. They even managed to do so with their "We don't trade our players" policy. Although I think that might cost them some respect and dignity in future trade periods...

The other thing to remember is they have the best senior and developing coaches in the business. I don't know how they do it, but they turn some pretty ordinary footballers into decent players. I'm betting they could take Richmond's list and make them a final's shot. Heck, imagine what they could do with our list?

I'm not so sold on their backline, particularly when they come up against the teams that have a couple of tall targets (Saints, Hawks, Lions). They are also pretty slow through the midfield, with Pendlebury, Swan, O'Bree and Ball.

And, Cloke and Anthony aren't exactly the best talls going around either. What Collingwood has been able to do is get about 7-8/10 on every line on the ground, meaning that they'll be competitive against most teams. With there tough draw, they may fall out of the top 4, but I suspect still make the top 6.

 

[parrot]

Watched the game last night. Same old Collingwood, same old flaws. Play a slow, stop-start around-the-boundary-line Malthouse gameplan. I don't think Brown and Cloke up forward is going to scare many opposition defenses.

Ball had a shot on goal from 40m out almost directly in front, and barely managed 30m. So his kicking distance hasn't changed. A slow inside mid who can't kick - did the Pies really need another one of those? Was Jolly really worth a first round pick plus another pick? He's barely serviceable

Pies still BADLY lack talent and leg-speed though the middle. Their list has gone backwards this year. It's a classic Collingwood list dominated by slow plodders and try-hards, rather than top-shelf talent.

 

[blueman91]

HAHA thanks for the comments guys ...i agree with much of them and I too acknowledge that they are full of over-hyped attitudes and then full of excuses come the time of another inevitable fall and complete failure once again. Look forward to seeing leigh brown and Travis Cloke fire them to the flag . They are definetely try-hards and list cloggers rather than top talent and they do in fact fear for our dominance over them in the next period of football history. In a way good to see them floating around the middle of the table and not getting anywhere because when it is time for them to finally bottom-out again they will suffer for an extended period of time, at least similar to ours. Facets of their coaching panel seem to pull them up a little above their weight though but not good enough to take them all the way. Look forward to seeing another collingwood heartbreak this year.....just remember their claim, "All the premierships are cakewalk", yeh....when they going to win one again?? LOL

 

[thylacine60]

HAHA thanks for the comments guys ...i agree with much of them and I too acknowledge that they are full of over-hyped attitudes and then full of excuses come the time of another inevitable fall and complete failure once again. Look forward to seeing leigh brown and Travis Cloke fire them to the flag . They are definetely try-hards and list cloggers rather than top talent and they do in fact fear for our dominance over them in the next period of football history. In a way good to see them floating around the middle of the table and not getting anywhere because when it is time for them to finally bottom-out again they will suffer for an extended period of time, at least similar to ours. Facets of their coaching panel seem to pull them up a little above their weight though but not good enough to take them all the way. Look forward to seeing another collingwood heartbreak this year.....just remember their claim, "All the premierships are cakewalk", yeh....when they going to win one again?? LOL

starman has a lot to answer for...

 

[Blues_Man]

I reckon they've got a pretty good team this year. Their weakness from last year was their ruck and midfield depth, and to their credit they addressed it in the off-season. They even managed to do so with their "We don't trade our players" policy. Although I think that might cost them some respect and dignity in future trade periods...

The other thing to remember is they have the best senior and developing coaches in the business. I don't know how they do it, but they turn some pretty ordinary footballers into decent players. I'm betting they could take Richmond's list and make them a final's shot. Heck, imagine what they could do with our list?

Their backline is pretty shit..Poor old Presti holds it together ...Nathan Brown is like a slow moving whitches hat ..O'Brien is ok but the need him all over the ground.
Their midfield is made up of average tryers ...Luke Ball can't kick over a jam tin and is slow as a wet week .

Nothing inspiring about the Pies i'm afraid.

 

[parrot]

Still amazed at why Failurewood traded away a 2nd round pick for Ball. Did they care to ask WHY he spent most of season 2009 in the VFL? The Saints have a very even midfield with good depth, but aren't overloaded with star midfielders. The Pies are trying to put it down to a dispute between Ball and Lyon, but the reality is Ball struggles at this level. He can only play the slow inside midfielder role, and once it leaves the center, he struggles because he's slow and can barely kick beyond 30m, mostly because of chronic groin injuries and surgery that pretty much stuffed his career. The Pies cheated the system with the Ball trade, and it looks like they'll get a bit of Karma now.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Still, it's my of my great perverse pleasures to watch the flaggie army turn up in droves for the first couple of weeks in September, only to watch it all come crashing down in a hideous defeat.

They've got that bit down pat, and i thank them for it.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I agree with parrot.

Collingwood fans are deluded.

Their defensive stocks are overrated: Presti (OK), Nathan Brown (proved nothing), Ben Reid (LOL) and Harry O (Overhyped).

Scott Pendlebury is also one of the most overrated players in the game. I seriously don't know where the hype comes from or how it is warranted. He's incredibly outside and doesn't like the rough stuff.

 

[ESKIE]

Eddie should get back home asap. The names of downhill skiers like Davis and Medhurst are way easier to pronounce.

Pure Gold Thy

 

[The Panther]

I'm not so sold on their backline

Their backline only had 1 defence concede less points than it's unit in 2009.

 

[mediumsizered]

Their backline only had 1 defence concede less points than it's unit in 2009.

The Collingwood game plan regularly sees up to a dozen Collingwood players in the D50, which is a credit to the discipline of Collingwood's mids, but does not give a true indication of the lack of quality among the Collingwood defenders.

Presti is by far Collingwood's best defender. Harry O'Brien is handy, but it falls away badly after that. Nathan Brown has plateaued (evidenced by how much better the defence looked last night when Brown was subbed for Presti) & really looks out of his depth against the best forwards. Ben Reid, despite being a first round draft pick, has so far shown nothing to suggest he is as talented as his father, who was a good, honest player & nothing more. You may well see Anthony pushed down into defence in the coming years to plug some gaps, as it is not going to be pretty when Presti calls it a day.

 

[The Panther]

Collingwood defenders.

Presti is by far Collingwood's best defender. Harry O'Brien is handy, but it falls away badly after that

You forgot All Australian defender, Nick Maxwell & Heath Shaw, who is one of the 3 best half back flankers in the AFL. It doesn't fall away as much as you hope it does.