Stinger would likely be a long and protracted negotiation
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Bluemour Discussion Thread VI (cont. in Part VII)
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Package with baggage
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Are you forgetting that he plays for the reigning premiers?
I'd also like to mention he's a total dickhead.
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You are criminally underrating Lever, he's a gun. Olivers a gun also.
So it's a rob Peter to pay Paul situation but you'd take the gun KP player every time unless it's a Judd type
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No doubt and I'm not suggesting he'd produce those sort of numbers at Carlton in 2018.
I think his 'shit' 2016 has been blown way out of proportion and has been exacerbated by a bad 2017 season.
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No, but I think you missed my point.
I've already said we should steer clear if there are any doubts over his personality. It's very easy to judge from the outside.
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He's an inconsistent on-field performer with off-field issues who would cost plenty both in terms of salary and trade.
Why is he the type we should look to bring in at this stage of our rebuild?
Happy to be corrected, but wasn't it reported that Lever had ruled out going to the Dogs? If true, how would the reported 3 way deal be brought up as a rumour now?
As for Stringer, I prefer we look at other options
As for Stringer, I prefer we look at other options
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All depends on price doesn't it?
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From the doggies board...
Dogs: Pick 3, 2018 2nd rounder & Tom Williamson
Blues: Jake & Pick 26
I just threw up a little bit!
Dogs: Pick 3, 2018 2nd rounder & Tom Williamson
Blues: Jake & Pick 26
I just threw up a little bit!
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Talk about virtual vomit.
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Piss that right off
Clearly The Dogs have better standards then, if they're keen on moving him on.
Maybe a change of scenery will do the trick and maybe it won't. We should kick the tyres, by all means though.
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Thats the best bit.
Seriously though Melb are more likely to part with Watts.
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Obviously not, but good to see other clubs take notice of Tommy's talents, kid is a gun
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Thats around when his marriage imploded wasnt it? I mean, that has to have an effect on him. Especially with two young kids and being forced to be away from them.
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String us along, eh?
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Strictly my former basketball scout opinion here... Jack, unfortunately, lacks two things pivotal to becoming a high quality player at the AFL level. One of those things is correctable and the other much less so. The correctable thing is that he is simply not strong enough. You can gain strength. This usually comes at a cost of a slight decrease in speed. The problem here is that Jack, for his size, is not fast. In fact, I'd suggest that he's already slower than average. Yes, you can increase your speed slightly but you're either born with it or you're not. Jack wasn't born with it. At 191cm he's not tall enough to be a KPF and so his speed deficiency will always count against him.
The skill issue plaguing him right now is that his kicking is substandard. He misses too many gettable shots. I'm willing to mark this down as a lack of confidence that can be improved upon. When he first arrived to the club he was a beautiful user of the ball compared to his age. This was one of the trademarks that gave me confidence that he'd become a player despite his physical weaknesses.
From a performance perspective, there have been multiple times where his performances haven't been anywhere close to the standard required. When he has a poor game you're playing a man down. Young players are inconsistent enough as it is and that's an acceptable part of growing pains but if most players (including youngsters) are having an off game they find a way to do something that contributes to the overall team performance. Jack goes missing to the point where a search rescue team couldn't find him.
The problem that some fans have, and I'll include myself here, is that all of our young kids have had to really earn the games that they've played. I don't see anyone being gifted games except you can accuse the MC of gifting Jack games. When we were crying out for a key forward to get a game it took three quarters of the season before they gave Harry McKay (or Pat Kerr) an opportunity in the team. I've seen more promising signs from Harry in his two games than I had in most of Jack's. A legitimate case can be made that Jack was given opportunity after opportunity when other young players were languishing in the VFL.
When McKay was finally given his opportunity which player was it that was forced to move to an unnatural position? Jack. Consequentially, there's evidence that the coaching staff hold similar lines of thought.
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