Can CC be sacked??

[Jetau]

What is the situation with Connolly's contract? I know that he has another 2 years but I heard as well that he can be sacked without paying out the contract. So what's to stop the board from getting rid of him at the end of this year? Let's say we miss the finals, finish on 10 or 11 wins. Would that be sufficient grounds for him to get the can, do you think?

I have lost all faith in this man. I'm sorry CC, but the buck has to stop with the head coach. You've had 4 years, and look at the sorry state the team is in. I remember he said once he might not be the man who leads Freo to a premiership, he might be the guy that comes before him. Well, stand aside sir, and give someone else a chance?

Suggestions for a new coach?

 

[docker_johnno]

Malcom Blight
Dennis Pagan
Peter German
Robert Walls
Mark Williams
Mick Malthouse
Leigh Matthews
Kevin Sheedy
Michael Broadbridge
Neale Daniher

Most of these blokes would not be available to do the job. However they would all do a better job than CC. He admitted that he does not even watch the play during a game. WTF?

 

[Borry]

Im thinking Wayne Carey.

He knows what it takes to win premierships, let alone be top four material. he know toughness, hardwork, courage and leadership and what it takes to be a champion player and have a champion team. He could prove to be a real deal with a great natural handling for the job

All the experienced coaches are either sewn up on watertight contracts or retired and too old and have indicated no return to the occupation (eg Parkin, Blight).

Wayne Carey may have a open mind about where he goes.

Forget Sheedy, forget Blight.

 

[Borry]

Other possible candidates


Brereton (unlikely??)

Terry Daniher

Broadbridge (heard that he is a real deal)

 

[bee dee]

Maybe Mcmanus can captain coach and have Grover and Woods as his assistants.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Maybe Mcmanus can captain coach and have Grover and Woods as his assistants.

You should really be doing stand-up. Your talents are wasted on the 'net.



FYI: Grover has been doing okay this year.

 

[rgauci]

I would vomit if we got Walls. Lets wait till seasons end before heads roll. Who knows what could happen.

As far as i know there's a clause in CC's contract that if he's sacked he doesn't get paid out. I've still got big aspirations for this season, its still too early in the to tell how it will pan out.

 

[big buddy38]

Connolly still has half a season to turn it around but if he doesn't there's probably a big decision the club must make.
Tim Watson may have fouled the waters for anyone such as Brereton, Carey, Lyon who might jumpt straight from a media role to coach without doing an assistant or other coaching role. Also, it'd be pretty expensive to get one of them and they'd be making a big call leaving their comfortable media gigs. But if a guy like Carey had the will to make it as a coach he might be worth a gamble.
Have heard very good things about Broadbridge but it's always tough for a coach who hasn't played at the top level e.g Wayne Brittain.
Gary O'Donnell always strikes me as a guy who could succeed as a coach - don't know about McKenna, Sumich (at least Freo would have 6PR on side!!) and definitely not Mark Harvey - everytime I hear him speak I keep thinking DAMIAN DRUM only not as sharp.

 

[doppo]

I would vomit if we got Walls.

You may have just discovered a motivation tool (no pun intended) to get the players up for the second half of the season.

CC: "Alright lads, we better make the finals from here. Otherwise I'm outta here and Robbie Walls is going to come over and coach you."

Seriously though, you'd say Pav would head over to Adelaide at first opportunity if Walls came anywhere near coaching Freo. And who'd blame him.

 

[big buddy38]

Walls should definitely be invited to Perth for an interview...and then locked in a room with Pav and the Carr bros beating the crap out of the splenetic old t*sser.

 

[Donkey]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!
(By the way, that's the answer to the topic question, not an objection to anybody's post)

Whether or not you like it, Chris Connolly will coach all of this season, all of next season, and at least some of the season after.

I'm not going to say whether I agree or disagree with that, or if I think the contract extension earlier this year should or shouldn't have been given. The fact is that it was, and he's here until 2007. The board would not have made that decision if they were going to back down just 11 games after the extension.

It's a bit like the Iraq War really. Whether you agree with it taking place in the first place is one thing, but what's done is done. The only thing left to do is support our troops, whether you want CC here or not.

 

[pinkus maximus]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!
(By the way, that's the answer to the topic question, not an objection to anybody's post)

Whether or not you like it, Chris Connolly will coach all of this season, all of next season, and at least some of the season after.

Are you sure of that?

If we dont make the finals he is gone

 

[Donkey]

In my mind I am sure, but I have been wrong before. I disagree, but we won't know until the time comes (hopefully it doesn't).

I just don't think the club would sign him until the end of 2007 if they were going to sack him after missing the finals in 2005. It would defy all logic.

 

[big buddy38]

It would seem illogical not to have a get out clause on a coach's contract these days - you'd think that with not all board members supporting CC's extension there may be such a clause. But footy clubs (not just Freo) are strange beasts and nothing would surprise me - I think the Hawks paid out Schwab for the last year of his contract.
If a coach isn't meeting the supporters expectations then it starts affecting membership/club revenue and often paying out a sacked coach is the lesser evil.

 

[Dark Destiny]

In my mind I am sure, but I have been wrong before. I disagree, but we won't know until the time comes (hopefully it doesn't).

I just don't think the club would sign him until the end of 2007 if they were going to sack him after missing the finals in 2005. It would defy all logic.

Chris Connolly has defied all logic throughout his coaching career. He admitted that 2002 and 2003 were development seasons for the club and 2004 and 2005 would see them develop into a top 8 team. 2002 went to plan, 2003 we exceeded our own expectations, 2004 we didn't live up to them and 2005 the team has decided to go on the rollercoaster which goes up when away and then down when on their own turf.

Bottom line is this - If the Dockers don't make the finals this year, Connolly's time is up. At present, he is on the tightrope. From my perspective he has been a fantastic marketer for the club and has provided some light entertainment for the fans with his pre and post match comments. I wouldn't mind if he stayed with Fremantle next year...but not as a coach.

Fremantle need to take a leaf out of their 2 nearest WAFL clubs in South Fremantle and East Fremantle. Those 2 clubs have won the most premierships between them in WAFL and despite the rivalry between the Sharks and the Bulldogs..I'm sure a lot of Fremantle fans in general would like to see a coach who is able to wear his heart on his leeve and instill a winning culture similar to the cultures that were established in those clubs.

My pick for next Fremantle coach would be Peter Sumich. I mean he played for the scum of the earth but he is a true Fremantle boy at heart. Worsfold is coaching too well for him to lose his position so what a coup it would be to get Suma...(the eagles faithful would be chocking on their feathers! ) I've seen him coach the Bulldogs and he was a gem if I ever saw one. He is the man to take the Purple Army to that last day in September from my perspective

 

[pav_is_god]

There is no point going through the whole ordeal of sacking CC and finding a replacement if we select another untried coach. If we're going to do it, we need somone proving. Blight is available, but he wouldn't be my first choice - I'd be hoping for the arse to fall out of Carlton (sorry guys) so we could pick up Pagan.

 

[Ripper]

This week I think Sheedy , Pagan , Thompson , Pagan , Clarkson & Laidley will be available, but we missed the boat last week when Matthews was available after losing 5 homes games in a row.

 

[rgauci]

There is no point going through the whole ordeal of sacking CC and finding a replacement if we select another untried coach. If we're going to do it, we need somone proving. Blight is available, but he wouldn't be my first choice - I'd be hoping for the arse to fall out of Carlton (sorry guys) so we could pick up Pagan.

Blight has stated his intentions. He doesn't want to coach. We could swap with Carlton. They need a coach for rebuilding, we need a premiership coach. Though lets not jump off the CC wagon just yet. The season is not over.

 

[wehavethepassion]

Reportedly an "out clause" if they don't make the finals in 2005.

However, with his best mate running the club and at least 7 of the directors eating out of his hand can't see connolly getting the "don't come monday" message.

Probably we'll chase some more slow midfielders.

http://www.thewest.com.au/20050606/sport/tw-sport-home-sto131384.html

 

[TheReason]

My pick for next Fremantle coach would be Peter Sumich.

I don't care which Assistant Coach you grabbed, it is the wrong decision and its not cause Sumich is at WCE.

Your 3 coachs to date have been trainees.

You need a top-line experienced coach. Who that is I don't know.

Learn from your mistakes.

 

[Freo Big Fella]

Where do I sign up for Dutchey's Dennis for the Dockers campaign? If Carlton are unhappy with his 30% win/loss ratio I'd be happy for us to take him off their hands.

 

[Power21]

Do any of you believe in the premiership window theory, i think this is freo's first year of about 4 or 5 with ur list and if its waisted on another 9th or first round finals exit surely connolly must go.

I had freo down as genuine contenders at the start of the year and you obviously still are but when you lose games at home regularily it makes it hard for the WA teams.

Anyway how is Schoey and J.Carr performing we really dont hear much over here in SA.

 

[pav_is_god]

Do any of you believe in the premiership window theory, i think this is freo's first year of about 4 or 5 with ur list and if its waisted on another 9th or first round finals exit surely connolly must go.

I had freo down as genuine contenders at the start of the year and you obviously still are but when you lose games at home regularily it makes it hard for the WA teams.

Anyway how is Schoey and J.Carr performing we really dont hear much over here in SA.

J. Carr had a good start to the season, but he's lost a bit of form lately.

Schofield is yet to hit his straps and I'd throw him back in the WAFL until he gets some match fitness and form under his belt.

 

[whizzbert]

If Freo don't make the finals this year (and it's looking less and less likely as the season progresses) then CC should go. Freo have a good list in my opinion - one definitely good enough to be in the top eight and if they don't make it I can only assume the coach is to blame for whatever reason they don't make it. To me it seems to be a mental thing within the group ... you can tell almost straight away which Freo is going to play the game - fabulous Freo or pathetic Freo.
CC may have done a lot for the club but I don't think he's the one to take them to the next level.

 

[pav_is_god]

If Freo don't make the finals this year (and it's looking less and less likely as the season progresses) then CC should go. Freo have a good list in my opinion - one definitely good enough to be in the top eight and if they don't make it I can only assume the coach is to blame for whatever reason they don't make it. To me it seems to be a mental thing within the group ... you can tell almost straight away which Freo is going to play the game - fabulous Freo or pathetic Freo.
CC may have done a lot for the club but I don't think he's the one to take them to the next level.

I agree. And the man that could do wonders for this list would be one D. Pagan.