Can Hawthorn succeed while ignoring the elite end of the draft? - Part 2

[threesixpio]

In case anyone's wondering the answer is still no.

Wingerz > Shiel

 

[threesixpio]

Wingerz > Burton > Oh Ah McCrab

 

[4THAWN]

The glaring hole in our defense left by Ryan Burton was really evident last night....

 

[threesixpio]

There should be a religion based upon Clarko’s wise words

 

[hawkman]

There should be a religion based upon Clarko’s wise words

Well certain Geelong/Essendon supporters seem to follow his every word

 

[WWSD]

A 10 goal win is a 10 goal once all is said and done though.

Credit to Geelong. They made Hawthorn look second rate.

 

[ChappyUK]

A 10 goal win is a 10 goal once all is said and done though.

104 TACKLES!!!!

Clarko always takes responsibility

 

[MinerBoy]

Lloyd was right. Hawthorn will keep winning games like tonight but ultimately just end up a middle of the road side going nowhere fast.

Beating Richmond seems good as they are the reigning premier but they were horrible.
Did Clarkson mention that or only use that excuse for his side getting smacked last week?

It wuz da umpies #freekickpoosnwees

 

[MinerBoy]

If the Hawks win a flag in the next three or four years I will bow down and kiss Clarko's feet and beg for forgiveness.

You're not fit to kiss Clarko's feet

 

[NonPhixion]

Last night was a coaching masterclass by Clarko.
All the talk about fielding one of the oldest teams and he made it work.
McEvoy down back looked like a genius move and Smith exposed Richmonds outside run

 

[StevoBruiser]

Would've taken full responsibility for the loss internally. What planet are you on?

Uranus, where Clarko’s head seems to be in recent times.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Not wanting to get sucked into a two part thread. But, from my understanding the title is misleading?

scully - pick 1
Patton - pick 1
JOM - pick 1 of mini draft
Wingard - pick 6
Scrimshaw - pick 7
McEvoy - pick 9
Frawley - pick 12
Mitchell - F/S pick 21 would have gone a lot lot higher in his draft year If not for f/s rules.

That’s 8 of their 22 that come from the top end of the draft.

they just traded in rather than picked as kids.

 

[WWSD]

Uranus, where Clarko’s head seems to be in recent times.

Why don’t you use your real account?

 

[Sirlemsip]

Not wanting to get sucked into a two part thread. But, from my understanding the title is misleading?

scully - pick 1
Patton - pick 1
JOM - pick 1 of mini draft
Wingard - pick 6
Scrimshaw - pick 7
McEvoy - pick 9
Frawley - pick 12
Mitchell - F/S pick 21 would have gone a lot lot higher in his draft year If not for f/s rules.

That’s 8 of their 22 that come from the top end of the draft.

they just traded in rather than picked as kids.

Stop talking sense... that has no place in this thread

 

[StevoBruiser]

Why don’t you use your real account?

The only negative comments on my post list are about Sir Clarkson the Messiah, so this means it must be a trolling second account? wtf

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

Not wanting to get sucked into a two part thread. But, from my understanding the title is misleading?

scully - pick 1
Patton - pick 1
JOM - pick 1 of mini draft
Wingard - pick 6
Scrimshaw - pick 7
McEvoy - pick 9
Frawley - pick 12
Mitchell - F/S pick 21 would have gone a lot lot higher in his draft year If not for f/s rules.

That’s 8 of their 22 that come from the top end of the draft.

they just traded in rather than picked as kids.

So by my count that's 6 original top-10 picks vs the top-10 picks Hawthorn have "earned" in the same period:

2017 - #7

and.... well that's the only one.

 

[Jack Gun Cyril Stun]

Not wanting to get sucked into a two part thread. But, from my understanding the title is misleading?

scully - pick 1
Patton - pick 1
JOM - pick 1 of mini draft
Wingard - pick 6
Scrimshaw - pick 7
McEvoy - pick 9
Frawley - pick 12
Mitchell - F/S pick 21 would have gone a lot lot higher in his draft year If not for f/s rules.

That’s 8 of their 22 that come from the top end of the draft.

they just traded in rather than picked as kids.

Shoosh

 

[Hawk Dork]

A 10 goal win is a 10 goal once all is said and done though.

only when it matters

 

[STPer18]

only when it matters

Did last night matter at all?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Did last night matter at all?

If you are going to get the cup this year you probably need to know how to beat the Tiges, Eagles or GWS at the G

 

[STPer18]

If you are going to get the cup this year you probably need to know how to beat the Tiges, Eagles or GWS at the G

We were responsible for eliminating the Eagles from finals last year at the MCG...Whoops!

 

[KermitJagger]

If the Hawks win a flag in the next three or four years I will bow down and kiss Clarko's feet and beg for forgiveness.

In your posts you're constantly asserting that, unless the Hawks win a flag, the recruitment strategy has been proven to be poor. Is that right?

Why don't we hold every team that tries to rebuild through the draft accountable to the same measures? If it fails, why isn't that chalked up as a point against the merits of drafting your talent?

If you look through history, for the life of the league while most or all of the talent has been drafted in, there are plenty more failures on the part of drafting to win premierships than there is in trading to win them.

 

[threesixpio]

Huh? Saying the other team "weren't that good" to dish out a 10 goal thrashing is to suggest it was his own team that were terrible. That IS taking responsibility. It was his way of saying last week was our fault.

Yeah I was thinking that the words you have quoted were curiously devoid of logic

 

[threesixpio]

104 TACKLES!!!!

Clarko always takes responsibility

He said we were shit basically. This is not terribly contentious

 

[threesixpio]

In your posts you're constantly asserting that, unless the Hawks win a flag, the recruitment strategy has been proven to be poor. Is that right?

Why don't we hold every team that tries to rebuild through the draft accountable to the same measures? If it fails, why isn't that chalked up as a point against the merits of drafting your talent?

If you look through history, for the life of the league while most or all of the talent has been drafted in, there are plenty more failures on the part of drafting to win premierships than there is in trading to win them.

Except Hawthorn

#becauseclarko

I actually believe this too. Sickening success at Hawthorn and my choice of team entitles me to more success

Hey Oppo supporters