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1-5 against the top four is a worry! Freo have an even better record, 1-3!
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Can Hawthorn succeed while ignoring the elite end of the draft?
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Not sure what Hawthorn supporters are so chirpy about. They've gone from top 4 to bottom 8 in one season, and they still have a few retirements left to come yet.
I get that they've found some good young players in Lewis and Worpel, but they still have a lot of work to do to get back to being competitive.
I get that they've found some good young players in Lewis and Worpel, but they still have a lot of work to do to get back to being competitive.
In all likelihood they miss this year, bet on it at the start of the year. Mind you I backed Demons top 4 so you win some you lose some.
Interesting to see what the predictions are for 2020 though, depending on off season list changes and recruitment, I'd still have them missing finals next year, pending who they bring in/lose.
Interesting to see what the predictions are for 2020 though, depending on off season list changes and recruitment, I'd still have them missing finals next year, pending who they bring in/lose.
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This thread is going to be hilariously entertaining in October. The best is yet to come.
I agree with you.
Either Hawks sign Cogs and their fans get some payback.
Or they don't and everyone else lays into them.
Either way we will get some "sick burns"
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Half of Hawthornās side on the weekend was over 28, so they better hope Coniglio brings 8 other Coniglios
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Mitchell
Coniglio
Patton
Scrimshaw
Top 10 draft pick
OUT
Roughead
Puopolo
Birchall
Smith
The ins are better than the outs!
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You were in control for 15 minutes to start the game but like a mid tier team you were not able to convert your chances. (As an Essendon fan I know this feeling)
After that you were forced into hard shots on goal by Brisbane (with a few exceptions) whereas you let them walk into to easy goals down the other end.
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Thatās certainly an alternate viewpoint.
Hawthorn are playing a very risky strategy
They are relying on the cache of Clarkson to get free agents to come and save them.
Good luck with that, up to now all they have been able to attract are perennially injured mercenaries .
IE JOM, Scully. Wingard has been disappointing. Frawley Henderson, Sburger Birchall on their last legs
Worpel is a limited football, Mitchell Lewis hasn't really done much, and that's about it.
The fact that Clarko has somehow made it look like they are an attractive destination for free agents has been the best marketing spin I can remember.
They are cooked .
They are relying on the cache of Clarkson to get free agents to come and save them.
Good luck with that, up to now all they have been able to attract are perennially injured mercenaries .
IE JOM, Scully. Wingard has been disappointing. Frawley Henderson, Sburger Birchall on their last legs
Worpel is a limited football, Mitchell Lewis hasn't really done much, and that's about it.
The fact that Clarko has somehow made it look like they are an attractive destination for free agents has been the best marketing spin I can remember.
They are cooked .
Annnnnnddddd, you lost me here.
Lynch arrived injured. Clubs know what they are doing
lost me before that
that's fine
These views aren't really controversial... unless you go Hawthorn
Worpel is top 6 in the league in clangers, and at the same age, Cleve Hughes averaged more goals per game than Mitchell Lewis
Except he isnt, and behind Fyfe, Martin, Dangerfield. staganation
I agree but a few of them are a hope/guess though, so that doesn't count for anything at this stage.IN
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Thatās like your opinion man.
4 premierships in 11 years - we are meant to be cooked.
This year the Hawks will have elite draft talent and free agents. They might just jump back a little faster than you all would like.
Cats at the Cattery I am nervous about, simply because WC historically plays poorly there.
At the MCG, it is whichever team turns up on the day.
The only opposition team I don't want to play is Brisbane. They have that young team confidence of having a free hit (Hawthorn 08, Dogs 16) and like WC have a lot of scoring power. Unlike WC they are consistently strong at contested ball and midfield pressure. Even if WC do as Hawthorn did and find a way to restrict their supply, they could still win.
not sure what any of that stuff that happened historically has to do with the reality of the present.
This time last year Tom Lynch was a hawk, sanity prevailed.
You will get free agents no doubt, you have TPP room, the question remains, will they be like Scully and Wingard? IE limited
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West Coast are in the box seat for the premiership imo. Settled game plan, mature squad without being too old, reasonable run with injuries, MCG holds no fears.
Brisbane do look good, but you do wonder whether theyād be overawed.
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Six defeats this season when 1.5+ years older than the opposition. Has happened 25 times previously.
There are a few exceptions where a premiership was won soon after (West Coast 2017, North Melbourne 1997 and 1975), but none of the other clubs in this boat won a flag in the following eight years, with most being anchored in the bottom half of the ladder.
There are a few exceptions where a premiership was won soon after (West Coast 2017, North Melbourne 1997 and 1975), but none of the other clubs in this boat won a flag in the following eight years, with most being anchored in the bottom half of the ladder.
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Yes. Alternate to yours.
Richmond in my opinion should be favourites.
Geelong and Brisbane next, then WC.
Over that period, how does the premiership strike rate compare to the rest of the teams? eg the strike rate is 1/18 in 2018 and 1/16 in 2004
you mention as strike rate of 3/25 which is 1/8 ? not sure if I've interpreted you correctly (honestly)
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Alternate reality, is should have said.
History is everything. It is the reason the Hawks are where they are. Winning has a price and the Hawks are currently paying it.
The question is will they have to pay as much as others have had to?
And history says they wonāt.
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