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I like how multi-dimensional our midfield group is at the moment.

Gibbs has genuine class and can play inside and out, M. Crouch is the consummate inside mid, Sloane is all heart and plays wherever needed (and usually soaks up a tag), Greenwood has lightning hands and one-touch ball handling skills, Douglas is an all rounder who is having a great season, and CEY has a big body he's not scared to throw around. Between them they're good for a handful of goals per game, too.

Not a huge amount of pace in there but at least they're not all so bloody samey like we've had in years past.
 

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Last night was classic why he is so valuable.
Not long ago we screamed.for big body mids to go with the likes of Cripps and Kennedy.
He may not be the superstar but who would have thought the crows midfield would function with no sloane and b crouch.
Greenwood has moved well ahead of CEY imo.
These 2 are on a serious upward projectory.
 
Still not sold, I feel he is directly competing with Greenwood and is falling behind. Handy depth but slow and makes too many howlers under real pressure. He has had a hell of a run and good on him for keeping his name on the list but can't see him being 1st 22. too many names that offer what he does that are more reliable.
 
The Crows tend to fall away badly when the tackling pressure is intense from the opposition. Douglas, Skoane, Crouch x 2 tend to get hammered.

CEY is invaluable as he wants the tackle, he encourages 1-2 to come at him knowing he has the brute force to still get the bandball away. This is why he is so important.

Our midfield is no longer a push over physically
 
Sloane is usually our #1 player for tackles. However , I really like Greenwood's tackling technique, he really throws himself at players with serious intensity with those long arms and drags then down. CEY is more of an in close brute strength type. I agree with above posts , our inside midfield group despite a lack of pace has a good mix about it.

In the last couple of years Douglas seems like a bit of a flat tracker and at times has been a whipping boy along with D-Mac. He has had a couple of big games again against weaker opposition. But he historically goes missing in big games when we are under tackling pressure. Does the emergence of Greenwood and CEY allow him to play a different role ? Should Douglas be offered a new contract ?
 
His big body in the midfield is fantastic, he provides a marking target around the ground, bounces off of packs as teams struggle to tackle him which gives him extra time. Seen him able to go forward and kick goals at times too which is handy.

I think the nice part about him and Greenwood is that they can be possibly more defensively minded in the middle whilst guys like Crouch/Gibbs try win it, their tackling is so good.

I do wonder if we're better playing Sloane on a wing or elsewhere on the ground and leaving these guys in to do some grunt work as they're doing it fantastically at the moment.
 
Scorpus said:
Has he ever been successfully tackled?
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They guy did last night by the boundary and when they got up it looked like CEY was giving him a pat on the head like he commended the physicality, then the other Carlton team mate come in and got in his face I think misreading the situation a little.
 
Thing with Sloane and Gibbs is that they know how to get frees for being held, no so much CEY and Greenwood, thay helps a lot.

I like GWood, CEY, Sloane and Gibbs rotating between HF and Centre as all of them can go forward. Crouch x 2 are midfield only at this point.

The other thing with Gwood and CEY is that they havent quite developed the same centre bounce clearance capacity as Sloane and Gibbs, but around the ground they are fantastic in close.
 

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Having watched the replay, CEY seems to have improved both his kicking and handballs. Seemed more instinctive with them recently and growing in confidence. Selection will be difficult this week and in coming weeks if we can get more players back.
 
Alwaysacrow said:
Having watched the replay, CEY seems to have improved both his kicking and handballs. Seemed more instinctive with them recently and growing in confidence. Selection will be difficult this week and in coming weeks if we can get more players back.
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He is much more composed now. Bottom line is he has only played 21 games and there is absolutely no substitute for AFL level experience. He is still only 25 as well. I really hope that we dont drop this guy. Contested footy wins finals and this guy is a beast.
 
Has his flaws but he seems to know his game very very well and plays to his strengths.

He's always been a monster of a bloke, now he's putting it to use.
 
rocket18 said:
Keep improving Cam, stick it up these naysayers .

Love your height in the midfield, a real point of difference.
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I saw him leading towards the footy on the broadcast at one point on Saturday night. And he looked like a KPF. Massive target. I’m hoping we see him pitch hit up forward when the midfield rotations start returning.
 
SellarStardom said:
Thing with Sloane and Gibbs is that they know how to get frees for being held, no so much CEY and Greenwood, thay helps a lot.

I like GWood, CEY, Sloane and Gibbs rotating between HF and Centre as all of them can go forward. Crouch x 2 are midfield only at this point.

The other thing with Gwood and CEY is that they havent quite developed the same centre bounce clearance capacity as Sloane and Gibbs, but around the ground they are fantastic in close.
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The Center bounce clearances will come with time, they have barely played 50 AFL games between them where as Sloane and Gibbs have played more like 400.
 

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People saying CEY doesn’t have pace need to realise that he’s not in the side to provide run and carry. We have players whose role it is to provide that, his role is to get those guys the ball and provide a big bodied presence in the Midfield. A role that he’s excelling at.

Also his fumbling seems to have tidied up a lot which is great. That infuriated me in the first few games, but I haven’t seen it much since the Swans game. Probably him just feeling less nervous in games!
 
70lethal said:
Seedsman is older than CEY and has increased his disposal count by 50% in his 7th year.
Blows wind up the argument theres little to no improvement possible in the 7th year of ones career.

To have a 190cm 95kg rookie getting 20+ disposal is priceless. If he is 10th man up in the midfield happy days.
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All of those guys have special circumstances - injury or not playing football.
If you'd had a solid 7 years of continuity, I'd go with the little improvement left argumetn.
 
SellarStardom said:
Thing with Sloane and Gibbs is that they know how to get frees for being held, no so much CEY and Greenwood, thay helps a lot.

I like GWood, CEY, Sloane and Gibbs rotating between HF and Centre as all of them can go forward. Crouch x 2 are midfield only at this point.

The other thing with Gwood and CEY is that they havent quite developed the same centre bounce clearance capacity as Sloane and Gibbs, but around the ground they are fantastic in close.
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CEY sits sixth across the whole league for centre clearances and his average per game is higher than any Crow dating back to Danger and Thompson in 2015, and is higher than Sloane and Gibbs have ever produced across a whole season. If there is a criticism, it’s actually his stoppage work around the ground - he lags behind the other midfielders for stoppage clearances... perhaps lacking running power/fitness to impact as many of these?
 
Miss Vanessa said:
CEY sits sixth across the whole league for centre clearances and his average per game is higher than any Crow dating back to Danger and Thompson in 2015, and is higher than Sloane and Gibbs have ever produced across a whole season. If there is a criticism, it’s actually his stoppage work around the ground - he lags behind the other midfielders for stoppage clearances... perhaps lacking running power/fitness to impact as many of these?
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Game time maybe? He's often not the one to have first crack at it.
 
Miss Vanessa said:
CEY sits sixth across the whole league for centre clearances and his average per game is higher than any Crow dating back to Danger and Thompson in 2015, and is higher than Sloane and Gibbs have ever produced across a whole season. If there is a criticism, it’s actually his stoppage work around the ground - he lags behind the other midfielders for stoppage clearances... perhaps lacking running power/fitness to impact as many of these?
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Pretty much nail on the head I think. Coming off a knee reco at a hulking size for a midfielder, just lacks that bit of spread from the contest and hence lags behind getting there at times. Similar could be said for Greenwood with his ankle and limited preseason.

At this stage it is really hard to drop either Hughey or CEY. Brad will take a long time to be back and running at his beautiful best, it's probably worth persisting with the two bulls for now.
 

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