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[andreww90]

All he offers is the ability to nullify his man and he can't even do that anymore

Dawson frustrates the hell out of me, he had 1 position to 3qrt and finished with four, 2 of which came with about 2 minutes to go. Surely being an afl footballer means u have to b able to do more than just punch the ball.
SOS should be playing offers more than Dawson. Collins should also get a look in we've carried Dawson for to long now it's time to move on.

 

[Zacy boy]

In the weekly injury report didn't Webber say that Bennell was in the final stages of rehab? What does everyone think the chances of him playing next week are? I would have thought pretty slim.... But we need him, if he is deemed fit and plays a game for peel my faith in the club will be tested.

 

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Out: C Pearce, Sutcliffe, Spurr.

In: Tucker, Grey, Collins

Ibbotson Dawson Grey
Darling Kennedy Bennell

Sheridan Collins Johnson
J Hill McGovern Le Cras

I don't really like the make up of our backline at the moment.

To me, Spurr is an undersized full back, lacking in any of the attributes to play to his size (speed, agility, foot skills). I don't like Spurr and Ibbotson in the same side, I feel they play the same role and that having them both in the side hampers our drive out of the backline. I much prefer Ibbotson as the medium defender/interceptor.

Collins to replace Spurr and play on a tall. Marking is a feature of Collins' game and I think he would be a good match up for McGovern. This has the added benefit of allowing Johnson to play the loose man.

I feel the same way about Sheridan and Sutcliffe, for me it is one or the other (in the backline...... There is perhaps a spot for both if one is in the middle) and on current form I would select Sheridan. He is more dangerous off half back and has a bit more pace to go with Jetta/Bennell/Hill etc..

Grey to replace Sutcliffe and play as a lockdown small defender. I worry that his poor disposal will result in too many turnovers, but time will tell. It is my opinion that he is already our best option as a small defender. He should play under the instruction to handball as often as possible to the likes of Sheridan, Johnson, Hill etc... Sutcliffe has not been as damaging by foot lately, imo we might as well play someone who will stop their opponent and forego whatever drive Sutcliffe may have created.

I am a Clancee Pearce fan. At his best he would be my first choice half back flanker. Better defensively than Sheridan and Sutcliffe and better offensively than Spurr and Ibbotson. He has all the tools, but something has gone seriously wrong with him. I am hopeful he can turn it around in the two's. Tucker comes in in the meantime. Similar players imo, hopefully he displays the class and poise we so sorely require.

 

[E Shed]

I'd bring in Tucker now. Kid can clearly play and he's part of the future.
Grey deserves a chance and maybe Hughes.
I'd do something lateral like drop Mayne and give Croz 6 games in his position, challenge him. He's just heading for the scrap heap as it is and Mayne is cooked.
All of Clancee, Suban, Barlow, Dan Pearce, Mayne and I think Ballantyne are cooked. Its going to be a long year because we simply don't have the players in the shed to replace them. Aggressive drafting and trading ahead.

 

[Docker82]

So? Dawson got destroyed, MJ is a better third defender, Pearce maybe required forward and WCE have three talls forward. Couldn't care less if Collins first game is a tough one, if hes ready and we want him to play, play him, we're gonna get thrashed regardless.

Alex Pearce is not a forward. I've been saying this since the day we first tried him there. Just because we are too impatient on Taberner and/or Taberner isn't good enough doesn't take away from the fact that Taberner has outperformed Pearce at AFL level up forward. Just because we don't have a good option doesn't mean we ruin our best young defender in the process of failing to solve the problem. The best way to solve the problem is through trading and drafting (with better picks/player attraction). I just don't see Alex Pearce making it as a forward but can see him holding down CHB for the next decade, which we happen to require someone to do as well.

Collins should be behind Dawson, Johnson and Pearce and if for whatever reason these three aren't playing in defence together (including if A.Pearce is up forward) should be getting games. If that's this week or not only really the selection committee that picks the team knows and as you say if he's deemed in our best 22 he should play regardless.

I just can't see the point of playing a player who's 29 and has time and time again been proven to be the sort that can be useful on his rare day but most of the time just plain ordinary. Is preferring to give Collins games over Silvagni really any different from people wanting Weller, Blakely, Langdon etc in instead of Mzungu, De Boer, C.Pearce etc.

 

[Scham]

Jesus **** I just saw that miss by Danyle Pearce.

Arrrggghh stab my ******* eyes out

Did he laugh afterwards? Usually does.

 

[meima]

Alex Pearce is not a forward. I've been saying this since the day we first tried him there. Just because we are too impatient on Taberner and/or Taberner isn't good enough doesn't take away from the fact that Taberner has outperformed Pearce at AFL level up forward. Just because we don't have a good option doesn't mean we ruin our best young defender in the process of failing to solve the problem. The best way to solve the problem is through trading and drafting (with better picks/player attraction). I just don't see Alex Pearce making it as a forward but can see him holding down CHB for the next decade, which we happen to require someone to do as well.

Collins should be behind Dawson, Johnson and Pearce and if for whatever reason these three aren't playing in defence together (including if A.Pearce is up forward) should be getting games. If that's this week or not only really the selection committee that picks the team knows and as you say if he's deemed in our best 22 he should play regardless.

I just can't see the point of playing a player who's 29 and has time and time again been proven to be the sort that can be useful on his rare day but most of the time just plain ordinary. Is preferring to give Collins games over Silvagni really any different from people wanting Weller, Blakely, Langdon etc in instead of Mzungu, De Boer, C.Pearce etc.

Did you went to see tab play for peel today ? I did I am not impress.

 

[FreoRicci]

Tbh need two ruckmen and sort out the boys from men. Taberner MUST come in and stays in for the first 10-12 rounds. Alex Pearce is a backman, full stop. Keep them there and develop. Weller, Langdon and Tucker could be the three young players for this week.

In: Griffin, Taberner
Out: Barlow (he's cooked), C. Pearce.

 

[FreoRicci]

All he offers is the ability to nullify his man and he can't even do that anymore

In this 'attacking' style that Freo are trying to play, of course Dawson will lose most 1 on 1s. Something has to give. He was one of our best last week with the onslaught and this week actually did well against the beast Lynch, given the quality Gold Coast produced for him.

 

[darkshines]

In the weekly injury report didn't Webber say that Bennell was in the final stages of rehab? What does everyone think the chances of him playing next week are? I would have thought pretty slim.... But we need him, if he is deemed fit and plays a game for peel my faith in the club will be tested.

Apparently Harley said at a function pregame he was between 3 and 8 weeks away. Yep, 8.

 

[meima]

Tbh need two ruckmen and sort out the boys from men. Taberner MUST come in and stays in for the first 10-12 rounds. Alex Pearce is a backman, full stop. Keep them there and develop. Weller, Langdon and Tucker could be the three young players for this week.

In: Griffin, Taberner
Out: Barlow (he's cooked), C. Pearce.

No Griffin please even in wafl today look slow consider swan districts bottom of the ladder.

 

[Carnthedockers]

Who must not come out: langdon, weller, Alex pearce

Who should go out: mayne, clancee, barlow.

Who should come in: tabs, tucker, silva

Who I want in: Morra, Bennell, Apeness.

I can live with tonight's loss - it was an improvement on last week and we are heading in the right direction.

But our try-hard plodders are all done. If you don't have leg speed and endurance, you can't play the game.

You missed the Who won't go out : ...

 

[FreoRicci]

Did you went to see tab play for peel today ? I did I am not impress.

He got 10 marks and 2.4 against an otherwise rubbish Swan Districts. Give him time instead up forward in this rebuilding/regeneration phase.

 

[Docker82]

Did you went to see tab play for peel today ? I did I am not impress.

No I didn't but tbh my opinion is more to do with A. Pearce than Taberner. I just don't think A.Pearce is a forward at all. Taberner happens to be the only other option.

 

[Gekko71]

You missed the Who won't go out : ...

Yeah... that wasn't an accident.

Some things don't bear thinking about too much.

I'm hoping to be surprised... but after Peel's goal kicking performance today, I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

[Docker82]

You missed the Who won't go out : ...

Suban, Mayne, D.Pearce

Am I doing it right?

 

[meima]

He got 10 marks and 2.4 against an otherwise rubbish Swan Districts. Give him time instead up forward in this rebuilding/regeneration phase.

Uebergang in his 3 match 8 mark 2 goal. The first goal uebergang assits it, because his body is not ready I don't want him to upgrade this year, if his body size is like Collins he will be my first choice after mora to upgrade from rookie list.

 

[Dirty_banchez]

Every time someone says we should bring in Matt Taberner I think of this:



MAAAAAATTTT TAAAAABERRRRNER

He is WAFL level.

 

[mike91]

Alex Pearce is not a forward. I've been saying this since the day we first tried him there. Just because we are too impatient on Taberner and/or Taberner isn't good enough doesn't take away from the fact that Taberner has outperformed Pearce at AFL level up forward. Just because we don't have a good option doesn't mean we ruin our best young defender in the process of failing to solve the problem. The best way to solve the problem is through trading and drafting (with better picks/player attraction). I just don't see Alex Pearce making it as a forward but can see him holding down CHB for the next decade, which we happen to require someone to do as well.

Collins should be behind Dawson, Johnson and Pearce and if for whatever reason these three aren't playing in defence together (including if A.Pearce is up forward) should be getting games. If that's this week or not only really the selection committee that picks the team knows and as you say if he's deemed in our best 22 he should play regardless.

I just can't see the point of playing a player who's 29 and has time and time again been proven to be the sort that can be useful on his rare day but most of the time just plain ordinary. Is preferring to give Collins games over Silvagni really any different from people wanting Weller, Blakely, Langdon etc in instead of Mzungu, De Boer, C.Pearce etc.

I agree regarding A. Pearce. Silvagni is underrated, not by any means saying hes a gun at all, but hes played more good games than bad ones. Collins should get games before Silvagni for further development, lets just see if Ross does what he should but probably wont do.

 

[mike91]

Every time someone says we should bring in Matt Taberner I think of this:



MAAAAAATTTT TAAAAABERRRRNER

He is WAFL level.

So put no development into any future forwards and rely on Pav, then next year comes around and Pav isn't there? I'd rather watch Tabs play and struggle than watch him in the WAFL, because at least then we're trying and he has a chance to show what hes got against AFL defenders.

 

[salim malik]

We all appreciate what Barlow has achieved but his senior days are over. Suban invisible today and Clancee slow,slow and slower both in mind and pace. Mayne will stay because there is no one to cover for him. Those three out but who comes in. Grey, Hughes, Collins, Tabs, De Boer . None are knocking down the door .We are in a pickle at the minute . The transition in the game plan has found out the older legs .

 

[mike91]

We all appreciate what Barlow has achieved but his senior days are over. Suban invisible today and Clancee slow,slow and slower both in mind and pace. Mayne will stay because there is no one to cover for him. Those three out but who comes in. Grey, Hughes, Collins, Tabs, De Boer . None are knocking down the door .We are in a pickle at the minute . The transition in the game plan has found out the older legs .

Hopefully trade bait at the end of the year, blokes finished.

 

[Dirty_banchez]

So put no development into any future forwards and rely on Pav, then next year comes around and Pav isn't there? I'd rather watch Tabs play and struggle than watch him in the WAFL, because at least then we're trying and he has a chance to show what hes got against AFL defenders.

We can play him, but Tabs ain't the future. He hasn't got it mentally.

 

[meima]

We all appreciate what Barlow has achieved but his senior days are over. Suban invisible today and Clancee slow,slow and slower both in mind and pace. Mayne will stay because there is no one to cover for him. Those three out but who comes in. Grey, Hughes, Collins, Tabs, De Boer . None are knocking down the door .We are in a pickle at the minute . The transition in the game plan has found out the older legs .

What transition? We are playing the same as last year second half of the year. Other team build their own game plan during pre-season and Nab by playing more youth but we are sending croz and deboer to second , rather then Mayne and C.Pearce.

 

[salim malik]

What transition? We are playing the same as last year second half of the year. Other team build their own game plan during pre-season and Nab by playing more youth but we are sending croz and deboer to second , rather then Mayne and C.Pearce.

No we aren't playing the same game plan . Its attack and less defence especially from the mids and at the minute we haven't got the troops to carry it out. Those who are being found out will get the tap on the shoulder. No gain with out pain and there is going to be plenty of that until we get it right.