Opinion Changes for the Pies

[Moose1414]

Clearly he's been well off his best this year. I just don't see what we achieve by dropping him again. The club obviously sees him as an important long-term prospect and so it makes sense to keep playing him at senior level.

Part of the problem is that when be finds himself at the bottom of packs, he hasn't yet developed the strength to break tackles. I'm personally confident that will come with time, especially considering he's already shown plenty of aggression and appetite for the contest.

The other problem is his ability to read the play. He's often hovering outside the pack waiting for it to be dished off but obviously isn't getting to the right spots. Again, I think this will improve but surely the way to do it is to leave him in the senior team so he can build chemistry and learn off the senior mids.

Considering your argument seems to be solely about possession count, it's worth noting that Yeo had only 11 touches at 36 per cent efficiency but seems to escape the same scrutiny.

So not strong enough and can't read the play but that will come in time, I agree [on the first 2 points at least only time will tell on the 3rd] Belongs at East Perth with the other kids and projects.

While the modern era has seen a greater number of 18 years olds step into sides and have an impact there is no doubt Duggan just isn't one of them. No shame in that, if he's not ready he's not ready its just bad coaching selecting him every week pretending he's Chris Judd or Darcy Parish or whoever. This is the norm, it takes time to develop into an AFL level player particularly is you're all about hard ball. Nowhere is it written that you should be doing that in the firsts just because you were picked in the first round.

The opposite of what you say is true, if the club see's him as a long term project they shouldn't be playing him before he's ready they should be letting him do his apprenticeship at East Perth like countless players before him have had to do. Smart people in football will say you do kids more harm than good playing them before they're ready. Fits the pattern though at least for Simpson, fast building a rep as a not very smart coach.

 

[salo]

Most fans still don't realise the value of someone like a Hutchings, one poor game and out of the side.

his value to an aspiring finals side is as a depth player who can keep things ticking over when better players are injured. but you have to recognise his limitations and the dangers in playing too many same-ish, middle-of-the-road players week-in-week-out against midfields that are generally superior.

i like hutchings but our priority has to be getting our best 22 firing on the same paddock at the same time, and i think he's probably just outside that number when injuries clear up.

 

[the harry]

OUT: Redden, Duggan, Nelson, Wellingham, Giles
IN: Hutchings, McGinnity, Ellis, Tunbridge, Jetta

Post reported.

 

[bunkyboy]

Most fans still don't realise the value of someone like a Hutchings, one poor game and out of the side.

Rarely factored is the intent and endeavour and unlike mcGinnity reliable foot skills.

These types of players are needed in every side as strong work ethic permeates the side.

I have said it a few times but I would rather a consistent and mostly reliable effort over a low possession flash in and out performance ala Yeo as an example.

Time to get the nelson and hutching types in the team because with the effort we can at least split the contest.

We are not a top 4 team.

Wellingham copping it on here btw, he is mostly reliable...

McGinnity's foot skills have been pretty decent since coming back in. Hit Kennedy with a couple of lace out passes recently and has kicked 5.1 so pretty accurate.

Last week he did dish of a couple of hand balls under no pressure that put his team mate under pressure. Apart from that I think he worked hard when he was on the ground (only 67% game time). He was often at the fall of the ball to dish off to a runner.

McGinnity brings pace and mongrel which we have very little of. It must have been a line ball decision to drop him.

I am strongly of the opinion we are a better side with him in.

Contrary to a couple of others here, I reckon Wellingham has had an ordinary month. His attitude has looked off. He probably won't get dropped, but needs a rocket.

Agree on Yeo, he also needs a rocket.

 

[Godfather32]

Out: Giles (crap), Wellingham (inj), Redden (hopeless)
In: NN, Adamson, Sheed

 

[bunkyboy]

Post reported.

Haha.

 

[bunkyboy]

Post reported.

Which do you disagree with?

 

[ziad]

cut out the heavy training load??

 

[frenchconnection]

He is very shit.

He wasn't too flash today that's for sure. He appears to be lacking in confidence or something - not sure what the real problem is?

 

[salo]

McGinnity's foot skills have been pretty decent since coming back in.

I am strongly of the opinion we are a better side with him in.

how much more of mcginnity do people need to see to realise he is not the answer to any of our problems?!

the conversation always seems to be about the mongrel he brings or his footskills, but look beyond those things - he's revealed himself over and over as an average footballer who makes poor decisions and lacks any hurt factor. opposition teams would be licking their lips anytime he gets named in our squad and (as i've been saying for years) if he was cut by the eagles he wouldn't find a game with any other afl club. not even brisbane or gc.

i love the kid, but no... just no.

 

[bunkyboy]

how much more of mcginnity do people need to see to realise he is not the answer to any of our problems?!

the conversation always seems to be about the mongrel he brings or his footskills, but look beyond those things - he's revealed himself over and over as an average footballer who makes poor decisions and lacks any hurt factor. opposition teams would be licking their lips anytime he gets named in our squad and (as i've been saying for years) if he was cut by the eagles he wouldn't find a game with any other afl club. not even brisbane or gc.

i love the kid, but no... just no.

Your'e entitled to your opinion. However I disagree with it.

 

[WCErevival]

McGinnitys mongrel is overrated anyway. He's rarely close enough to the ball to impact the contest.

 

[frenchconnection]

McGinnity's foot skills have been pretty decent since coming back in. Hit Kennedy with a couple of lace out passes recently and has kicked 5.1 so pretty accurate.

Last week he did dish of a couple of hand balls under no pressure that put his team mate under pressure. Apart from that I think he worked hard when he was on the ground (only 67% game time). He was often at the fall of the ball to dish off to a runner.

McGinnity brings pace and mongrel which we have very little of. It must have been a line ball decision to drop him.

I am strongly of the opinion we are a better side with him in.

Contrary to a couple of others here, I reckon Wellingham has had an ordinary month. His attitude has looked off. He probably won't get dropped, but needs a rocket.

Agree on Yeo, he also needs a rocket.

Almost the whole team needs a rocket with a few exceptions! The team as a whole has been off almost all season. Can't see it improving much any time soon unfortunately.

 

[bunkyboy]

Almost the whole team needs a rocket with a few exceptions! The team as a whole has been off almost all season. Can't see it improving much any time soon unfortunately.

I get the feeling this coaching group is scared to lay into our players after a bad game. Are the worried they will hurt their fragile egos? I mean, what the hell does it take?

Why do players repeat the same mistakes over and over? Examples are Sharrod's lazy kicking, Gaff's tunnel vision disposal, many players hand balling to a team mate under pressure, etc.

What is it going to take to fire this side up? We keep getting told by Simpson that 'we aren't yet at our best' and 'have a lot of work to do'. Before the Carlton game apparently we were due to hit our straps. Nup.

Seems as though apart from the Adelaide home defeat wake up call, all other poor performances and fade-outs have been swept under the carpet.

 

[Beutbrute]

In: Nic Nat, Sheed, 2nd spot on the ladder
Out: Giles, Redden

On the cusp: Schofield, Jetta, Karpany
In the firing line: Masten, Butler, Duggan, McKenzie

 

[bunkyboy]

how much more of mcginnity do people need to see to realise he is not the answer to any of our problems?!

the conversation always seems to be about the mongrel he brings or his footskills, but look beyond those things - he's revealed himself over and over as an average footballer who makes poor decisions and lacks any hurt factor. opposition teams would be licking their lips anytime he gets named in our squad and (as i've been saying for years) if he was cut by the eagles he wouldn't find a game with any other afl club. not even brisbane or gc.

i love the kid, but no... just no.

In three games since coming back he averaged 72% game time, 12 disposals and 84% disposal efficiency.

 

[Embley]

OUT Masten (permanently), Giles, Redden
IN Jetta, Naitanui, Sheed

 

[ChampRevesby]

Out: Redden, NN (if fit)
In: Sheed, Giles

Get Redden out of my team asap!

 

[salo]

In three games since coming back he averaged 72% game time, 12 disposals and 84% disposal efficiency.

yeah nah he's shit

 

[bunkyboy]

Post reported.

Perth Now reporting Jetta had a dirty day with EP so I will edit him out for this week. Sounds like Lamb and Karps went well so maybe time to give one of them a go.

 

[bunkyboy]

yeah nah he's shit

Your opinion.

 

[salo]

Your opinion.

just playing with ya paddy.

 

[new breed]

In NicNat , Hutchings

Out Giles , Duggan

 

[Avalor]

OUT: Redden, Duggan, Nelson, Wellingham, Giles
IN: Hutchings, McGinnity, Ellis, Tunbridge, Jetta

Taking the piss surely.

 

[bunkyboy]

just playing with ya paddy.

Haha. I'm much older, have no hair and carry a lot more weight.

I don't care if Paddy has an unfashionable kicking style, I care what he brings to the team. Just like I don't care about Masten's tatts. As long as they give 100% and contribute to us winning.