Preview Changes Rd 4 vs Melbourne

[Jcpdragonx]

When’s been his best game? Back in 2022??

He looked good in preseason. Give him a chance at least. Whats the point of persisting with Murphy and McHenry.

 

[Velvet George]

He looked good in preseason. Give him a chance at least. Whats the point of persisting with Murphy and McHenry.

I’m not suggesting they play either, but they are a good example of why it’s no point playing players with limitations

 

[Scorpus]

I'm happy to try Berry again but we have to drop both Laird and Crouch

 

[Scythe]

Pardon the intrusion, but I feel like I'm nearly getting as frustrated watching your midfield as you are at the moment.

It's blatantly obvious to nearly everyone except that bald campaigner of a coach that you can't play Crouch and Laird together at nearly every stoppage. Both of them are one-paced, one-dimensional—dare I say it—stat-padders. Combine that with Dawson forgetting how to football, and you have three treacle slow mids who aren't providing any effective drive out of the middle.

Fair play to Crouch, he's been OK this year, and there's room for one in and under extractor with no real hurt factor, but that's it. Laird should either be moved out to a HB flank, or down to the SANFL where he can accumulate all of the meaningless possessions he'd like.

Dawson obviously stays, but you need to surround him with some dynamic players like Soligo, Rankine and Rachele in order to give him some space to operate and do what he does best, rather than trying to operate in a phone booth.

TL;DR – the Dawson/Laird/Crouch combo should never be seen at a centre bounce. Rather than having each of them at 80%+ CBAs, I reckon you'd look a mile better doing something like Crouch 70%, Dawson 65%, Soligo 50%, Rankine 50%, Rachele 45%, Laird 20% (if that).

Hell, if Nicks insists on playing plodders who can't kick in the mids, he might as well play Keays in there, because at least he offers something defensively.

Anyway, I'll butt out. Hopefully he pulls his head out of the proverbial soon (maybe after one more week), as it's pretty plain to see where your midfield is going wrong at the moment. Have some faith in the young, exciting guys – Crouch and Laird aren't leading you to a flag.

 

[Odog]

What’s the go with Murphy’s injury?


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[BACCS]

What’s the go with Murphy’s injury?


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I heard it’ll need precisely a 22 week recovery timeframe, just in time for finals

 

[UcantCme]

Happy with the other changes but no way am I playing Curtin as a key defender. He’s not up to that yet in the AFL.

Push him up the ground like we did yesterday.

Trust him, I do

played well in the WAFL last year


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[UcantCme]

Wasn’t his best game but was the scapegoat when the heat was on the midfield

i’m sorry but Berry deserved to lose his spot and is not what we need moving forward


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[Velvet George]

Trust him, I do

played well in the WAFL last year


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WAFL v AFL??

 

[UcantCme]

WAFL v AFL??

WAFL during his draft year

Curtin will rise to playing AFL, we just need to play him at AFL level


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[Velvet George]

WAFL during his draft year

Curtin will rise to playing AFL, we just need to play him at AFL level


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I’m not saying not to play him, I’m saying not as a KPD

 

[1970crow]

For whatever reason I get the feeling they'll be hesitant to debut anyone while they're losing and particularly not on a big Thursday night match up against Melbourne.

In fact they'll want to do the opposite and lean heavier on experience to turn the slump around.

Hopefully Sloane is cleared to play.

 

[UcantCme]

Murray and Thilthorpe’s injuries have hurt us

we will be a much better team with both players at either end of the ground

Murray, Keane, Maxy and Worrell is a really versatile core of your defence, they are all agile and can play on different types of forwards

Tex is keeping our forwards in a holding pattern, we are so Tex centric and my theory is that both Fog and Thilthorpe will rise quickly once they have more ownership of the forward line




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[1970crow]

Do you need to be able to do those things in the AFL?

Tex should never have been considered, particularly with the two long flights

Perhaps Tex could have not put his hand up to play. But that would be a team first attitude, so no chance from one of our senior players.

 

[Scorpus]

Murray and Thilthorpe’s injuries have hurt us

we will be a much better team with both players at either end of the ground

Murray, Keane, Maxy and Worrell is a really versatile core of your defence, they are all agile and can play on different types of forwards

Tex is keeping our forwards in a holding pattern, we are so Tex centric and my theory is that both Fog and Thilthorpe will rise quickly once they have more ownership of the forward line




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Disagree. Murray and Thilthorpe's injuries have had little to no impact.

We have basically a full healthy midfield list to choose from and that's where the game is being lost right now

 

[1970crow]

Even an over the hill Sloane would have that ball moving through the lines better than how it has been, im not even joking. How could it be any worse. We've got some pretty average kicks and decision makers in that team at the moment. Something Sloane is good at. He played some good games last year and the team would be better with him in it. But
the seasons gone we are ****ed it's time to play the kids. He might as well retire now.

My god, what a stupid post. Sloane is a slug, he would only make us worse.

 

[whitey_1975]

In, Nankervis, Curtin, Dowling, Edwards, Bond, Cook.
Out, Milera (inj) Murphy (useless) Laird , Sholl, McHenry, Tex (inj)

 

[Crow_68]

What’s the go with Murphy’s injury?


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Nicks/Burns 'we'll give Lachie every chance to prove his fitness this week, we love what he brings to the group week in, week out'

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

Murray isn’t even on our list

I guess that shows how much I have lost interest in this club...

 

[flashcrow]

Can't drop the young and potentially good players. It's not really their fault. A proper coach would have them all looking way better.

But the oldies should get no passes.

Unfortunately Murphy is injured so it won't look like a dropping

A new (GOOD) coach would do what good coaches do when they come in, putting their stamp on this group. Retire Sloane & Smith, drop Laird, give the kids responsibility in the middle.

Delist the cloggers Murphy McHenry Sholl Berry instead of perpetually cycling them expecting it to somehow work out one day.

And only play kids we don't know enough about.

One day, if we all wish hard enough, we might just get a coach like that

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[GreyCrow]

Nank for Mikera
Dowling for Jones (he’s been horrible)
We just have to play Curtin for Borlase
Cook for Murphy

Where are you playing Dowling?

If its a pocket or off the bench then why bother?

We must be brave and give him as many minutes as we can in the middle - thats his position so it must be his role

Development starts with developing players to play a position - not a fix it

 

[GreyCrow]

Pardon the intrusion, but I feel like I'm nearly getting as frustrated watching your midfield as you are at the moment.

It's blatantly obvious to nearly everyone except that bald campaigner of a coach that you can't play Crouch and Laird together at nearly every stoppage. Both of them are one-paced, one-dimensional—dare I say it—stat-padders. Combine that with Dawson forgetting how to football, and you have three treacle slow mids who aren't providing any effective drive out of the middle.

Fair play to Crouch, he's been OK this year, and there's room for one in and under extractor with no real hurt factor, but that's it. Laird should either be moved out to a HB flank, or down to the SANFL where he can accumulate all of the meaningless possessions he'd like.

Dawson obviously stays, but you need to surround him with some dynamic players like Soligo, Rankine and Rachele in order to give him some space to operate and do what he does best, rather than trying to operate in a phone booth.

TL;DR – the Dawson/Laird/Crouch combo should never be seen at a centre bounce. Rather than having each of them at 80%+ CBAs, I reckon you'd look a mile better doing something like Crouch 70%, Dawson 65%, Soligo 50%, Rankine 50%, Rachele 45%, Laird 20% (if that).

Hell, if Nicks insists on playing plodders who can't kick in the mids, he might as well play Keays in there, because at least he offers something defensively.

Anyway, I'll butt out. Hopefully he pulls his head out of the proverbial soon (maybe after one more week), as it's pretty plain to see where your midfield is going wrong at the moment. Have some faith in the young, exciting guys – Crouch and Laird aren't leading you to a flag.

Dawson needs Crouch more than he needs Laird

I would move Laird out and give him Crouch minutes when resting

 

[Rank]

My god, what a stupid post. Sloane is a slug, he would only make us worse.

Oh my god what a stupid person, I wouldn't want him in the team, I'd rather he retired at the end of last near. My point is the team is that ****ed up he couldn't make it any worse. He did play some good games last year though, I don't care what you simple people say

 

[1970crow]

What I love about being 0-3 is that playing injured players becomes even more important.

 

[GreyCrow]

Perhaps Tex could have not put his hand up to play. But that would be a team first attitude, so no chance from one of our senior players.

You dont make 300 by resting