Preview Changes v GWS - Round 16, 2021

[LeverPuller]

In: BBB
Out: Sparrow

 

[Demon 16]

No change.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Brown probably gets a game but I don't know who for, wouldn't have thought Sparrow tho.

Vanders the one who impressed me most today, he almost looked like 2018 Vanders again. Probably needs a few more games but he's born for finals and someone who should get a chance before the end of the year assuming his body holds up.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Nib, Fritsch and TMac all need a good kick up the arse after their previous two games, doubt it's TMac but I'm somewhat concerned he's turning back into a spud again.

 

[Scythe94]

Sparrow unlucky, but he goes for BBB

 

[ImissFrosty]

Big Dawg Jacky Spazz unfortunately out for BIG BAD BENNY BONER BROWN. That's right 5B's

 

[Johnny Karate]

BBB has put his hand up but not sure who would come out. Again, the forward line itself wasn’t hugely problematic but we need to be better with set shots and not panic bombing it inside 50 expecting 80’s Tony Lockett to materialise, eviscerating the packs.

 

[Pedantic]

The forward line has been our weakest part of the ground all season and Ben Brown is clearly the most proven goalkicker on our list. We have to give him a block of games now and see if he can get it to click so we know one way or the other by finals.

 

[Johnny Karate]

Nib, Fritsch and TMac all need a good kick up the arse after their previous two games, doubt it's TMac but I'm somewhat concerned he's turning back into a spud again.

All are having a bit of a trough in their form. However McDonald still worked his arse off last night so until that drops off he’s in my team. The most frustrating thing about Weideman before being dropped wasn’t the trampoline hands but the complete lack of intensity and will to work his way into the game around the ground.

 

[mrmonkey]

I reckon Sparrow keeps his spot this week. Big call but I would be dropping kozzie before him.

 

[Daemon]

In: BBB, new forward line coach or plan
Out: Someone out of Sparrow and Nib

 

[Jibroni]

I reckon Sparrow keeps his spot this week. Big call but I would be dropping kozzie before him.

And I would drop ANB before Kozzie

 

[Tulip]

Sparrow's tackling pressure was great yesterday. Beautiful goal too. I really want him to stay in. He reminds me a bit of AVB from a few years ago.

 

[mrmonkey]

And I would drop ANB before Kozzie

Regardless Sparrow shouldn't be getting drop.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I'd drop Kozzy for wearing a long sleeve jumper, don't see anything unreasonable about it whatsoever

 

[Topkent]

I'd drop Kozzy for wearing a long sleeve jumper, don't see anything unreasonable about it whatsoever

You know what.

You've convinced me.

 

[Topkent]

Lol just dropping Brown into the forward line isn't gonna make us a 20 goal side. If anything McDonald will play worse, Brown will kick 2-3 and we will still have s**t forward entries that result in 9 goals.

 

[schmuttt]

Lol just dropping Brown into the forward line isn't gonna make us a 20 goal side. If anything McDonald will play worse, Brown will kick 2-3 and we will still have sh*t forward entries that result in 9 goals.

What do you propose as the solution? No change and just hope it is a problem with the midfield-forward connection?

 

[Fork n Hell]

i'd go with no change this week. i want to see the guys who were in the best in the VFL today like Jones, BB, AVB, Weideman, and Melksham back it up again next week before being considered for a call up.

 

[Topkent]

What do you propose as the solution? No change and just hope it is a problem with the midfield-forward connection?

I'm not hoping that's the problem it IS the problem.

You can't sit here and say we've been delivering silver service into the forward line and we just don't have the cattle to take advantage of it. The way brown needs the ball kicked to him is lace out on the lead and seperation from his man. He's not marking dump kicks. If we were already kicking like that Fritta and McDonald would be kicking bags. Those guys can kick a goal from a poor entry. Brown is the definition of a finisher, his goals will only ever be the result of a beautiful kick to him

 

[Dogga6]

Lol just dropping Brown into the forward line isn't gonna make us a 20 goal side. If anything McDonald will play worse, Brown will kick 2-3 and we will still have sh*t forward entries that result in 9 goals.

Based on what evidence that McDonald will play s**t?
The last two games Brown played for the Dees these were McDonald's stats.

Round 8 against Sydney he had 18 disposals 7 marks, and kicked 4 goals.
Round 9 against Carlton McDonald had another 18 disposals, 6 marks and kicked 3.1

I didn't count Brown's first game because for 3 quarters McDonald had to play down back due to Tomlinson going down.

No coincidence that McDonald had his best game for the year when Brown was in the side..

I also don't think any Melbourne supporter has said that Brown makes us a 20 goal better side. But it's obvious that it certainly gives McDonald a chop out and with that, Tom takes the 2nd best defender instead of the first and also the net effect on Fritsch and Jackson. If he is drawing defenders away from these guys and frees them up then structurally that's a win for us. It's then up to our ball users in using the right option when connecting inside 50.

 

[schmuttt]

I'm not hoping that's the problem it IS the problem.

You can't sit here and say we've been delivering silver service into the forward line and we just don't have the cattle to take advantage of it. The way brown needs the ball kicked to him is lace out on the lead and seperation from his man. He's not marking dump kicks. If we were already kicking like that Fritta and McDonald would be kicking bags. Those guys can kick a goal from a poor entry. Brown is the definition of a finisher, his goals will only ever be the result of a beautiful kick to him

Don't necessarily disagree it is just a very interesting problem, I think it is a bit of both. We had a LOT of looks at goal last night but even excluding the inaccuracy our entries were no better than Essendons, we just have a much better back 6 so we absorbed it better.

 

[jhong]

Based on what evidence that McDonald will play sh*t?
The last two games Brown played for the Dees these were McDonald's stats.

Round 8 against Sydney he had 18 disposals 7 marks, and kicked 4 goals.
Round 9 against Carlton McDonald had another 18 disposals, 6 marks and kicked 3.1

I didn't count Brown's first game because for 3 quarters McDonald had to play down back due to Tomlinson going down.

No coincidence that McDonald had his best game for the year when Brown was in the side..

I also don't think any Melbourne supporter has said that Brown makes us a 20 goal better side. But it's obvious that it certainly gives McDonald a chop out and with that, Tom takes the 2nd best defender instead of the first and also the net effect on Fritsch and Jackson. If he is drawing defenders away from these guys and frees them up then structurally that's a win for us. It's then up to our ball users in using the right option when connecting inside 50.

that and the forwards not leading to the same place .

 

[Topkent]

Based on what evidence that McDonald will play sh*t?
The last two games Brown played for the Dees these were McDonald's stats.

Round 8 against Sydney he had 18 disposals 7 marks, and kicked 4 goals.
Round 9 against Carlton McDonald had another 18 disposals, 6 marks and kicked 3.1

I didn't count Brown's first game because for 3 quarters McDonald had to play down back due to Tomlinson going down.

No coincidence that McDonald had his best game for the year when Brown was in the side..

I also don't think any Melbourne supporter has said that Brown makes us a 20 goal better side. But it's obvious that it certainly gives McDonald a chop out and with that, Tom takes the 2nd best defender instead of the first and also the net effect on Fritsch and Jackson. If he is drawing defenders away from these guys and frees them up then structurally that's a win for us. It's then up to our ball users in using the right option when connecting inside 50.

If it was that simple having Weid in the side would have made our forward line better. It didn't.
One player never has and never will just fix a forward line. He will just be another tall bloke stuck in the forward line with s**t entries unable to do anything once the ball hits the ground.

 

[djpaulydemon]

Its chicken or egg whether the entries are bad or the forwards aren't leading to the right areas. Both appear to be problems. Brown would hopefully correct the latter, but at the expense of ground ball pressure. Realistically though even if he has the right idea it won't matter if the other forwards in the 50 don't and he will have no space.