Prediction Changes vs Bulldogs ~ Round 4 2019

[Jen2310]

I think that back 6/7 is set. Don't think its one that the coaches are worried about. Whether we like it or not, I do believe that Roughead's position is safe no matter the game. He isn't just that defender, but also that other tall.

 

[foreigner]

If we are not planning to tag someone,

OUT: Greenwood
IN: Varcoe

Otherwise no change for me

I think our defence have too many intercept types, Moore, Howe, Roughead, Langdon and sometimes they all fly for the ball competing against each other. When this happens there aren't anyone to defend the ground ball as all are down on the ground in a heap. They need to learn to better work together and communicate on who will fly for the ball.

 

[Stripes B and W]

I would drop Howe before Roughead on current form


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Thought he was our best player, if im not mistaken Darling was largely unsighted on the night. When he doesnt bite of too much when he kicks, Howe is a very fine footballer. Who would you line Roughead up on this week?
BTW, i dont see Roughhead being out of the side anytime soon, but to me he is match up guy. When you have close to 40 to pick from, the squad mentality becomes increasingly viable. Just my view

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

So Adams is going to be out suspended I'd say. Think that'll be the only change.

In: not sure.... Crocker? Brown?

He didn't get him in the head. It was just a whiplash effect. He'll be fine.

 

[magpies42]

Happy for you to disagree. Vastly different discussion than Varcoe who's defensive pressure and harassment are something the team more broadly lacks. Thomas is generally poor defensively and needs to do more offensively just to compensate for that.

In a team that excels at pressure, there needs to be a balance. Not everyone can tackle either, some need to play other roles. Granted he didn’t have the best game, but it’s hard to judge him when we had many poor performers on the night. Bucks said the onballers failed on the night...

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I'd be bringing in Tyler Brown if Sier can't get in.

Start getting minutes into him. He looks like he'll be what we need in the middle, particularly long term.

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

Any merit in sending Howe to the fwd line? We got intercept marking truly covered with Moore and Langdon down back.

Good idea. That was the plan when we got him initially.

Moore, Langdon and Roughead is sufficient down back.

I also like the idea someone else mentioned about Pendlebury down back and Maynard in the guts.

Bartell's move to the backline in the twilight of his career was a brilliant move. He pretty much played goal keeper. We are notorious for letting ball come out over the back and letting the opposition get an easy goal. Pendles wouldn't let that shit happen so often like it does and we could really use his smarts in the backline.

Maynard is great when he comes up the ground and gets more involved. I can't see any reason not to trial this change for a few weeks, especially against some easier competition.

As for this weekend though, Aish is one of the least damaging players I've ever seen. He adds nothing to the side. Varcoe is infinitely more valuable and was sorely missing from the West Coast game.

Josh Thomas has had 3 poor games in a row. What's his role at the moment? He's not kicking goals, he's not helping out in the midfield. He was practically unsighted until the last qtr on the weekend. He was just about worst on ground in the GF (Maybe Venables or Mihocek were worse). He bobs up and kicks a couple of goals in some of our dominant wins, but where is he when the going gets tough. Not as useless as Aish, but still offers very little, at-least at the current time.

Like people have been saying, if Greenwood's not tagging then he's of little value. He's a liability forward or in defense.

Jaidyn Stephenson isn't playing very well, but that's because we somehow thought he could fill WHE's role. He clearly can't. Let him do what he does best before we kill his confidence. He stays.

Out: Aish, Greenwood, Thomas
In: Quaynor, Varcoe, C.Brown/N.Murphy

At the VERY least:

Out: Aish
In: Varcoe/Quaynor

At some point in the year:

Pendles - Backline
Maynard - Midfield
Howe - Forward

 

[Finnishpie]

Good idea. That was the plan when we got him initially.

Moore, Langdon and Roughead is sufficient down back.

I also like the idea someone else mentioned about Pendlebury down back and Maynard in the guts.

Bartell's move to the backline in the twilight of his career was a brilliant move. He pretty much played goal keeper. We are notorious for letting ball come out over the back and letting the opposition get an easy goal. Pendles wouldn't let that shit happen so often like it does and we could really use his smarts in the backline.

Maynard is great when he comes up the ground and gets more involved. I can't see any reason not to trial this change for a few weeks, especially against some easier competition.

As for this weekend though, Aish is one of the least damaging players I've ever seen. He adds nothing to the side. Varcoe is infinitely more valuable and was sorely missing from the West Coast game.

Josh Thomas has had 3 poor games in a row. What's his role at the moment? He's not kicking goals, he's not helping out in the midfield. He was practically unsighted until the last qtr on the weekend. He was just about worst on ground in the GF (Maybe Venables or Mihocek were worse). He bobs up and kicks a couple of goals in some of our dominant wins, but where is he when the going gets tough. Not as useless as Aish, but still offers very little, at-least at the current time.

Like people have been saying, if Greenwood's not tagging then he's of little value. He's a liability forward or in defense.

Jaidyn Stephenson isn't playing very well, but that's because we somehow thought he could fill WHE's role. He clearly can't. Let him do what he does best before we kill his confidence. He stays.

Out: Aish, Greenwood, Thomas
In: Quaynor, Varcoe, C.Brown/N.Murphy

At the VERY least:

Out: Aish
In: Varcoe/Quaynor

At some point in the year:

Pendles - Backline
Maynard - Midfield
Howe - Forward

I'd move Pendles to a wing actually. Probably that would push Philips out. Varcoe/eventually WHE in for Thomas. Maynards doesn't have the smarts to play in the midfield I don't think.

One thing we definitely missed on the weekend was pace. That's why Varcoe is important I think.

 

[swiftdog]

Thought he was our best player, if im not mistaken Darling was largely unsighted on the night. When he doesnt bite of too much when he kicks, Howe is a very fine footballer. Who would you line Roughead up on this week?
BTW, i dont see Roughhead being out of the side anytime soon, but to me he is match up guy. When you have close to 40 to pick from, the squad mentality becomes increasingly viable. Just my view

Roughead could line up on Schache or Naughton? Moore to take the other.

 

[Kirby]

I’m on train with the too many talls in the backline talk, specifically Roughead. We are too cumbersome down back and need more ground level cover and rebound.

Langdon and Howe both play tall and can handle most teams extra talls, then be too nimble on the deck. Moore has the other teams premier tall covered.

Saying Howe should be dropped over Roughead is head scratchingly confusing. He beat Darling pointless on Saturday, basically rendering him largely invisible. Some posters let his occasional shanked kick get in their heads too much.

Can Phillips play as a back flanker? I’m not sure how he’d cope defensively but would help with our transition.

Ultimately, you can see why we drafted Quaynor as there will be a spot for him when he’s ready.

 

[CFC2010]

I’m on train with the too many talls in the backline talk, specifically Roughead. We are too cumbersome down back and need more ground level cover and rebound.

Langdon and Howe both play tall and can handle most teams extra talls, then be too nimble on the deck. Moore has the other teams premier tall covered.

Saying Howe should be dropped over Roughead is head scratchingly confusing. He beat Darling pointless on Saturday, basically rendering him largely invisible. Some posters let his occasional shanked kick get in their heads too much.

Can Phillips play as a back flanker? I’m not sure how he’d cope defensively but would help with our transition.

Ultimately, you can see why we drafted Quaynor as there will be a spot for him when he’s ready.

You cant drop Roughead against his old team...…........he is a good match up for Schache or Naughton IMO.

 

[jackcass]

In a team that excels at pressure, there needs to be a balance. Not everyone can tackle either, some need to play other roles. Granted he didn’t have the best game, but it’s hard to judge him when we had many poor performers on the night. Bucks said the onballers failed on the night...

I'm 1 of Thomas's longest and biggest fans on these boards but even I can acknowledge he's been poor this season relative to expectations. I'd argue his contribution isn't even matching his return from suspension games of 2017 let alone the dizzy heights he set in 2018. The Richmond game was no better so it isn't team performance related. He needs t lift.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

What number will you be wearing Dave? I wanna get a guernsey ready.

14

 

[Shaneprice97]

I feel like the Roughead support down back has been a reason why Darcy has been able to play well this year.

However if Lynden Dunn is able to get fit hes the man to come in, he compliments Moore so well. I hope we roll the dice on Dunny.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

As a rule we don’t make multiple changes unless forced by injury.

In that vein who can come in and improve the side?
No good taking players in for the sake of it.

In that sense I can sense at most there would be two possible changes based on form / structure / balance / no panic.

Possible ins: Varcoe and Crocker (based on rewarding VFL form).

Possible outs: Greenwood and Aish.

This is based on swapping one for one.

Lynch is an interesting possible but for whom?

And then there’s Appelby, he could be an in as well. Instead of Varcoe or Crocker.

 

[Albert Parker]

We have too many mids with Beams in the team. Means we are playing guys like Phillips and Greenwood out of position - which is a big mistake. We'd be better off with Varcoe or Daicos in the forward line for balance.

Varcoe in
Greenwood or Phillips Out

Can't have both of these guys choking up our forward line as they were for much of the night. If Phillips doesn't play wing, he doesn't play. He's a liability with his kicking and pressure.
Similar with Greenwood. If he's not tagging, he's a liability given his skills.

Aish and Thomas are on shaky ground at present.

For the poster who said drop Howe vs Roughead, I think you should look at the Coaches votes this week - only Pie recognised.
Darling was useless again as a result of the Howe match up.

And definitely no to Crocker too. Can't handle the level of senior football.

 

[Albert Parker]

I feel like the Roughead support down back has been a reason why Darcy has been able to play well this year.

However if Lynden Dunn is able to get fit hes the man to come in, he compliments Moore so well. I hope we roll the dice on Dunny.

You do realise that Dunn has done his ACL again don't you??????

 

[Anzacday]

We have too many mids with Beams in the team. Means we are playing guys like Phillips and Greenwood out of position - which is a big mistake.

I heard Kingy yesterday commenting on the Eagles.
They have 7 mids, 7 backs, 7 Fwds and 2 Ruckmen.
Aside from the fact he can't count, I understood what he was saying.

PS: I'd like to see us throw Howie forward and Checkers back for something different occasionally.

 

[Shaneprice97]

You do realise that Dunn has done his ACL again don't you??????

What!!? When?!

I’m talking round 19-20ish for Dunn, hopefully sneaks a game in before finals. But i’m sure the club will be prepared for september without him!

 

[Quicky]

I’m on train with the too many talls in the backline talk, specifically Roughead. We are too cumbersome down back and need more ground level cover and rebound.

Langdon and Howe both play tall and can handle most teams extra talls, then be too nimble on the deck. Moore has the other teams premier tall covered.

Saying Howe should be dropped over Roughead is head scratchingly confusing. He beat Darling pointless on Saturday, basically rendering him largely invisible. Some posters let his occasional shanked kick get in their heads too much.

Can Phillips play as a back flanker? I’m not sure how he’d cope defensively but would help with our transition.

Ultimately, you can see why we drafted Quaynor as there will be a spot for him when he’s ready.

Back flanker options are Appleby and Quaynor.

 

[Scodog10]

We have too many mids with Beams in the team. Means we are playing guys like Phillips and Greenwood out of position - which is a big mistake. We'd be better off with Varcoe or Daicos in the forward line for balance.

Varcoe in
Greenwood or Phillips Out

Can't have both of these guys choking up our forward line as they were for much of the night. If Phillips doesn't play wing, he doesn't play. He's a liability with his kicking and pressure.
Similar with Greenwood. If he's not tagging, he's a liability given his skills.

Aish and Thomas are on shaky ground at present.

For the poster who said drop Howe vs Roughead, I think you should look at the Coaches votes this week - only Pie recognised.
Darling was useless again as a result of the Howe match up.

And definitely no to Crocker too. Can't handle the level of senior football.

I’m not for Phillips coming out, yet, but jeez he needs to get busy on BOTH sides of the ball! It’s a small sample size, but 5 tackles so far in 2019 is Josh Smith output. It’s solid for one match from a mid in 2019 and lends to part of our struggles because we aren’t tackling in open play as much.

FWIW Adams with 0 tackles v WC seems to indicate we rolled the dice and lost. If that’s to his usual standard our defence at the contest is much better. A combined 3 tackles from him, Beamer and AT will never be seen again, IMO.

 

[jackcass]

I heard Kingy yesterday commenting on the Eagles.
They have 7 mids, 7 backs, 7 Fwds and 2 Ruckmen.
Aside from the fact he can't count, I understood what he was saying.

PS: I'd like to see us throw Howie forward and Checkers back for something different occasionally.

That's a pretty narrow interpretation. Hardly a shock when you consider the source. We, and most teams, go into games with 7 defenders and 2 rucks. Especially with the new ruck rules. Then it's just the label you want to attribute to the remainder. Vardy played 80% GT, Hickey 66%. For significant periods both were on the ground so does that make them 2x rucks or 1x ruck and 1x forward? I haven't seen the centre bounce stats we normally get from a dedicated poster but I'd reckon a few of their small forwards got rotations. No different for us.

 

[jackcass]

What!!? When?!

I’m talking round 19-20ish for Dunn, hopefully sneaks a game in before finals. But i’m sure the club will be prepared for september without him!

Last week in the VFL practice match against the Tigas at Punt Road.

 

[Kilmo]

You do realise that Dunn has done his ACL again don't you??????

Last week in the VFL practice match against the Tigas at Punt Road.

Dunn said recently that he is aiming for an August-September return, as he has had a cadaver graft ACL which means he doesn't have to rehab the ligament so should be a quicker turnaround time.

Don't shoot the messenger, just quoting!

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I heard Kingy yesterday commenting on the Eagles.
They have 7 mids, 7 backs, 7 Fwds and 2 Ruckmen.
Aside from the fact he can't count, I understood what he was saying.

PS: I'd like to see us throw Howie forward and Checkers back for something different occasionally.

Yes the guy who is the stats and tactics guy should know it’s only 22 players