clarkson vs wallace vs eade

[The Dice Man]

No no, I believe that when a player of the class of Brown went down, it made it harder to push that motivation, especially when the key player in the side, and a man in exceptional form goes down.
I agree that he is a key player.. Probably the key for the Tige's...

As for the no panic when Darcy went down, my point was when he went down last year... The doggies picked up and continued the fight toward finals, the way they finished the season showed that Rocket finally instilled a belief in those talented youngsters... And what he has done with players such as Cooney and Griffen is a revelation.

You know the Bulldogs only won one more game than Richmond in 05 dont you?

 

[roge_3]

You know the Bulldogs only won one more game than Richmond in 05 dont you?

Yes indeed I do... Different circumstances though.. At the beginning of the year the Bulldogs were only a bottom 3 side, he gradually built a flow of his game plan through the players in the team and at the end of the year they actually looked like a football side.
Again, like every other year the Tigers were supposed to be "contenders" they have a good list and are capable of being just that.. But they still sit just outside and just not good enough.. What did Wallace do that was any different than when Frawley started?

 

[The Dice Man]

Yes indeed I do... Different circumstances though.. At the beginning of the year the Bulldogs were only a bottom 3 side, he gradually built a flow of his game plan through the players in the team and at the end of the year they actually looked like a football side.
Again, like every other year the Tigers were supposed to be "contenders" they have a good list and are capable of being just that.. But they still sit just outside and just not good enough.. What did Wallace do that was any different than when Frawley started?

What are you talking about man??? Richmond started the season as wooden spooners and most expected another spoon in 05.

 

[cogs24]

Are you serious??? Point out this Pro-Active tactical approach that Wallace has taken as part of his master stoke??? When has he provided such a mismatch that he is above a coach of Eade's ilk???
You really only read what you want to see dont you?? There are different categories of coaches. Tactical and Motivational.. Every week Wallace is looking for something new to motivate his team, generally his side is exactly the same, with very little variety.. Hence the collapse when the tactically smart Nathan Brown went down... Deledio may help, seems to be a smart footballer.. The rest are fed through emotion.. Bottom Line.

It takes more than 1 year to rebuild a team
What you cant seem to see is that the bulldgogs good players taking them where they are going are all around the 21-25 years of age. Atleast 3 more years into developing a good side than richmond are.
The bulldogs are building a side around players in the 21-25 years of age, like all teams this is where players enter their prime, just look at St Kilda.
When you look at the players in that age group at richmond and in their best 22 compared to the bulldogs 22 you can see why they are on the way up and richmond are not. Eade will have a lot more success in the next couple of year why his players are in their prime. While Wallace will be waiting for the likes of Deledio, Meyer, Tambling, JON, Pattison, Polo and co. enter their prime

 

[tigerT]

Are you serious??? Point out this Pro-Active tactical approach that Wallace has taken as part of his master stoke??? When has he provided such a mismatch that he is above a coach of Eade's ilk???
You really only read what you want to see dont you?? There are different categories of coaches. Tactical and Motivational.. Every week Wallace is looking for something new to motivate his team, generally his side is exactly the same, with very little variety.. Hence the collapse when the tactically smart Nathan Brown went down... Deledio may help, seems to be a smart footballer.. The rest are fed through emotion.. Bottom Line.

whatever you reckon, if you knew even the slightest thing abt gameday coaching and actually watched a few richmond games you would see that wallace is very rarely re-acting to opposition coaches. Very pro-active in his ability to rotate and create mismatches or in our case at least help us be competitive. I believe what I want to believe and to categaorically lump wallace into a "purely motivational" style coach is laughable. Remember the way he setup his bulldogs to beat the all conquering bombers of 2000?

The collapse came not bc the tactically smart Brown went down, it happened bc Brown is one of our very few top shelf players. In case you werent aware, we were reigning wooden spooners coming off another bad season in 2003, our list was in tatters (still is just being rebuilt)... considering where we are and where the bulldogs are talent wise I think Wallace compares very favourably to eade.

 

[Nightwolf]

Clarkson, Daylight then Eade....

 

[The Dice Man]

Clarkson, Daylight then Eade....

Yep that one 14th position finish surely beats anything Eade or Wallace have done.

Face it, your coach would be more competative in a midget tossing competition.

 

[Binxy]

Yep that one 14th position finish surely beats anything Eade or Wallace have done.

Face it, your coach would be more competative in a midget tossing competition.

As the tosser or the tossee?

 

[The Dice Man]

As the tosser or the tossee?

Im not at liberty to discuss this further

 

[Heisenberg_]

Wallace and Eade are pretty even but its daylight to Clarkson. i wish i could have a coach who gets rid of experienced players and refuses to play experienced players (Nick Holland) who was performing at VFL just to lose games and get higher picks. Dud coach with no tactical nouse, just you wait and see. Danny Frawley MKII

 

[Heisenberg_]

Are you serious??? Point out this Pro-Active tactical approach that Wallace has taken as part of his master stoke??? When has he provided such a mismatch that he is above a coach of Eade's ilk???
You really only read what you want to see dont you?? There are different categories of coaches. Tactical and Motivational.. Every week Wallace is looking for something new to motivate his team, generally his side is exactly the same, with very little variety.. Hence the collapse when the tactically smart Nathan Brown went down... Deledio may help, seems to be a smart footballer.. The rest are fed through emotion.. Bottom Line.

Wallace= tactical and motivational coach, you realise you can be both .
Remember the tactics Wallace used early in the year which owned everyone Terry's Triangle, i dont beleive that is a motivational tool is it?

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

Why for winning only 5 games this year ...
Yeah right.
Clarkson = Short Man's syndrome

hey silly it is his first year not his tenth you can not compare so don't try

 

[Nightwolf]

Wallace and Eade are pretty even but its daylight to Clarkson. i wish i could have a coach who gets rid of experienced players and refuses to play experienced players (Nick Holland) who was performing at VFL just to lose games and get higher picks. Dud coach with no tactical nouse, just you wait and see. Danny Frawley MKII

You seem an insecure poster who has posted nothing but rubbish since you started. I also love it how you are just assuring your number 1 pick is better than a bloke picked 4 spots behind him. Im guessin deep down inside, youre scared Franklin will be the better player...

 

[Heisenberg_]

You seem an insecure poster who has posted nothing but rubbish since you started. I also love it how you are just assuring your number 1 pick is better than a bloke picked 4 spots behind him. Im guessin deep down inside, youre scared Franklin will be the better player...

no, remember at the start of the year you were the leader of the Franklin should have been number 1 pick cheer squad after about two matches, well how wrong were you and i just want you to remember that Deledio is better then Franklin

 

[The Dice Man]

Just thought id put up Wallace's head-to-head coaching record against both Clarkson and Eade.


Wallace vs. Rodney Eade - 9 wins/3 losses
Wallace vs. Alastair Clarkson - 2 win/0 losses


So as you can see, if we use real life, cold hard facts about who is the better coach, it's really quite obvious that Wallace wipes the floor with both of them

 

[drpink]

Clarkson was respectable in his first year. But it is a bit hard to compare him with eade or wallace. In my opinion they are just about the best in the business in terms of getting the most out of their players and match day tactics. The Hwaks games I watched it seemed Clarkson was a bit to predictable and got found out against the better sides. Who is better out of Eade and Wallace; Hard one, but i will say Eade simply because the Dogs finished higher than the Tigers.

 

[The Dice Man]

Clarkson was respectable in his first year. But it is a bit hard to compare him with eade or wallace. In my opinion they are just about the best in the business in terms of getting the most out of their players and match day tactics. The Hwaks games I watched it seemed Clarkson was a bit to predictable and got found out against the better sides. Who is better out of Eade and Wallace; Hard one, but i will say Eade simply because the Dogs finished higher than the Tigers.

Never mind that Wallace has a 9-3 win loss record against Eade

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

silly thread this is

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

Just thought id put up Wallace's head-to-head coaching record against both Clarkson and Eade.


Wallace vs. Rodney Eade - 9 wins/3 losses
Wallace vs. Alastair Clarkson - 2 win/0 losses


So as you can see, if we use real life, cold hard facts about who is the better coach, it's really quite obvious that Wallace wipes the floor with both of them

It could also just mean that Sydney were the Dogs bitches in the late 90's

Only 1 of them has made a Grandfinal And only one of them has shown a total lack of morals/principles/ethics in ther treatment of a former club

 

[Gman]

Only 1 of them has made a Grandfinal And only one of them has shown a total lack of morals/principles/ethics in ther treatment of a former club

Right I see...Eade had morals....he was told mid year he would be sacked as coach and replaced at end of year because the Swans werent happy with his resukts thus far but Eade decided to walk out ie resign midyear once informed of the boards decision...sooky lala syndrome if you ask me.

 

[SCRAY72]

Never mind that Wallace has a 9-3 win loss record against Eade

Just maybe the Dogs had a better side than the Swans in those years.

 

[Catnip]

It's kind of stupid to place Clarkson in a poll against Eade and Wallace, considering he has only been a senior coach for 1 year. It's almost like saying Buckley vs Crawford vs Tambling.

At the present time, taking into account their past, Eade > Wallace, but we do not know where Clarkson stands.

Spot on Hawk. Eade>Wallace..Wallace is an actor playing to television cameras, Eade is a darn good coach.

 

[local]

Are you serious??? Point out this Pro-Active tactical approach that Wallace has taken as part of his master stoke??? When has he provided such a mismatch that he is above a coach of Eade's ilk???
You really only read what you want to see dont you?? There are different categories of coaches. Tactical and Motivational.. Every week Wallace is looking for something new to motivate his team, generally his side is exactly the same, with very little variety.. Hence the collapse when the tactically smart Nathan Brown went down... Deledio may help, seems to be a smart footballer.. The rest are fed through emotion.. Bottom Line.

I think it was season 2000 when the all conquering Essendon only lost 1 game. Funny enough it was against the Dogs, Wallace was coach. No one gave Dogs a chance to win, but Wallace pulled some great tactical moves out of his arse and the dogs got over the line by 11 pts.

I rate both Eade and Wallace highly. Both have strong tactical minds and can turn bottom sides into very competitive teams. Eade did get Sydney to a grand final (thanks to locket) so Eade would just have his nose in front.

 

[local]

Spot on Hawk. Eade>Wallace..Wallace is an actor playing to television cameras, Eade is a darn good coach.

Yes. Heard Wallace might accept a spot on neighbours, playing Harold Bishops long lost son who drowned in a fishing accident.

 

[Johnson#26]

Eade, Wallace, Clarkson for me. Things may change, though.