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Is Greta Thunberg the 'Highest Paid Activist'?
Detractors have been searching for an ulterior motive behind teenager Greta Thunberg's climate activism.www.snopes.com
This is a new kind of dumb, did you even read your own link?
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Appologies for the cut and paste, but I did go to the effort to sign up for the free month to gain access to this article.
London/Sunday Times.
Greta Thunberg and the Plot to Forge a Climate Warrior
Date: 23/08/19
Dominic Green, The Times
The teenage activist Greta Thunberg wants nothing more than to change the world. The shadowy cabal behind her has other goals.
Greta Thunberg’s great American adventure has begun. Last Wednesday, she set sail from Plymouth like the pilgrims did, her Mayflower a zero-carbon but very expensive racing yacht; her goal not religious liberty but a camera-rich turn at the UN’s climate change conference in New York.
Meanwhile, on dry land, GQ magazine recently appointed Greta its “game changer of the year”, with a cover image in which the teenager, whether she realises it or not, strikes a stern, finger-pointing pose reminiscent of Lord Kitchener’s First World War recruiting poster and tells Britain’s feckless carbon-emitters: “To do your best is no longer good enough.”
Greta is just an ordinary 16-year-old Swedish schoolgirl whose fiery visions have convinced the parliaments of Britain and Ireland to declare a “climate emergency”. Her parents, Svante Thunberg and Malena Ernman, an actor and opera singer respectively, are just an ordinary pair of parent-managers who want to save the planet. Query their motives and you risk being accused of “climate denial”, or of bullying a vulnerable child with Asperger’s syndrome.
However, the Greta phenomenon has also involved green lobbyists, PR hustlers, eco-academics and a think tank founded by a wealthy former minister in Sweden’s Social Democratic government with links to the country’s energy companies. These companies are preparing for the biggest bonanza of government contracts in history: the greening of the western economies. Greta, whether she and her parents know it or not, is the face of their political strategy.
The family’s story is that Greta launched a one-girl “school strike” at the Swedish parliament on the morning of August 20 last year. Ingmar Rentzhog, the founder of a social media platform, We Don’t Have Time, happened to be passing. Inspired, Rentzhog posted Greta’s photograph on his own Facebook page. By late afternoon, the newspaper Dagens Nyheter had Greta’s story and face on its website. The rest is viral.
But this isn’t the full story. In emails, Rentzhog told me that he “met Greta for the first time” at the parliament and “did not know Greta or Greta’s parents” before then. Yet in the same emails, the media entrepreneur admitted to having met Greta’s mother “3-4 months before everything started” — in early May last year, when he and Malena shared a stage at a Stockholm conference called the Climate Parliament.
Nor did Rentzhog stumble on Greta’s protest by accident. He now admits to having been informed “the week before [via] a mailing list from a climate activist” named Bo Thoren.
Rebecca Weidmo Uvell, an independent journalist, has obtained an earlier email that reveals Thoren, the leader of a group called Fossil Free Dalsland, was searching for fresh green faces.
In February last year, he invited a group of environmental activists, academics and politicians to plan “how we can involve and get help from young people to increase the pace of the transition to a sustainable society”. In May that year, after Greta won second prize in an environmental writing competition run by the newspaper Svenska Dagbladet, Thoren approached all the competition winners with a plan for a “school strike” modelled on the walkouts by pupils after the shootings at a high school in Parkland, Florida, a few months before.
“But no one was interested,” Greta’s mother claimed, “so Greta decided to do it for herself.”
Fortunately, Greta’s decision coincided with the publication of Scenes from the Heart, her parents’ memoir of how working to save the planet had saved their family. Unfortunately, Malena omitted to tell her publisher that Rentzhog had commandeered Greta’s stunt.
“We had a problem,” recalled Malena’s editor, Jonas Axelsson. “Journalists asked if it was promotion for the book. It wasn’t at all. It was a nightmare.”
It was, however, a dream for Rentzhog. He combined Thoren’s plan, Malena’s musical fame, Greta’s uncanny charisma and his social media platform’s mailing list. And that turned Greta into a viral celebrity.
"I have not invented Greta,” Rentzhog insisted, “but I helped to spread her action to an international audience.”
Trained by former US vice-president Al Gore’s environmental group, the Climate Reality Project, Rentzhog set up We Don’t Have Time in late 2017 to “hold leaders and companies accountable for climate change” by leveraging “the power of social media”.
He and his chief operating officer, David Olsson, have backgrounds in finance, not environmental activism: Rentzhog as the founder of Laika Consulting, an investment relations company, and Olsson with Svenska Bostadsfonden, one of Sweden’s biggest property funds, whose board Rentzhog joined in June 2017. The platform’s investors included Gustav Stenbeck, whose family control Kinnevik, one of Sweden’s largest investment corporations.
In May last year, Rentzhog became the chairman and Olsson a board member of a think tank called Global Utmaning (Global Challenge). Its founder, Kristina Persson, is an heir to an industrial fortune. A career trade unionist and former Social Democratic Party politician, she was the Swedish government’s “minister for the future” between 2014 and 2016. She is also a former deputy governor of Sweden’s central bank and a “new-ager” who has talked about being reincarnated and communicating with the dead.
Petter Skogar, the president of Sweden’s biggest employers’ association, is also on Global Challenge’s 10-person board. So is Anders Wijkman, a former co-president of the Club of Rome, former chairman of the environmental objectives committee and a recipient last February of Thoren’s call for youth mobilisation.
Among Global Challenge’s senior advisers is Catharina Nystedt Ringborg, a former chief executive of Swedish Water, an adviser to the International Energy Agency and a former vice-president of the Swedish-Swiss energy giant ABB. Ringborg is also a member of Sustainable Energy Angels, a green energy venture capital firm, the members of which are a Who’s Who of the Swedish energy sector. Its president and the chairman of its investment committee are former ABB personnel, as are four of its 17 members.
So, when Greta met Rentzhog, he was the salaried chairman of a private think tank owned by a former Social Democrat minister with a background in the energy sector. His board was stacked with powerful sectoral interests, including career Social Democrat politicians, union leaders, and lobbyists with links to Brussels. And his board’s vice-chairwoman, Ringborg, was a member of one of Sweden’s most powerful green energy investment groups.
Greta and her parents probably did not know this — and Rentzhog seems to have wanted to keep it that way. On September 2 last year, just after Rentzhog claimed to have stumbled on Greta protesting outside parliament, the Dagens Nyheter newspaper ran a long opinion piece on the need to force the greening of the global economy by “bottom-up” action against national governments, including “broad social mobilisation . . . reminiscent of what takes place in communities threatened by war”.
Greta’s mother was one of nine signatories, as were Persson and three other Global Challenge board members, though they cited other affiliations. Only Rentzhog admitted that he was associated with Global Challenge.
An English edition of the article identifies Rentzhog and Wijkman as its authors. Rentzhog claims that “many of us involved in Global Challenge were also involved” in writing it. He admitted to me by email that he showed Malena “the article and the other signatures, but not their titles for Global Challenge”.
Greta’s father, Svante, who now devotes himself to managing his daughter’s career, declined requests for an interview and refused to respond to a detailed list of written questions about Rentzhog and Global Challenge. Instead, he issued a three-paragraph statement through an intermediary, saying that “neither I nor Greta feel qualified to answer” questions about Rentzhog’s business connections and when the family might have known about them.
Svante also claims that “we have never worked with” Rentzhog’s social media platform or Global Challenge. Yet Greta served on the We Don’t Have Time advisory board between last November and January this year, and Malena signed a letter with four Global Challenge board members. When I asked Rentzhog if he had introduced Greta and her parents to other Global Challenge board members, he replied: “I don’t know. Maybe I did, but if Svante says no, maybe it was not connected.”
Svante refuses to answer questions about whether he and Greta have met members of the Global Challenge board. But Wijkman remembers.
Wijkman used to lead the Club of Rome, whose alarmist 1972 report, The Limits to Growth, has become a cornerstone of the “climate emergency” campaign. Last December, We Don’t Have Time and Global Challenge launched the Club of Rome’s latest vision of apocalypse, the Climate Emergency Plan. Greta, Rentzhog told me, was invited to the launch event, but was unable to attend as she was already booked to deliver a TED Talk.
The Climate Emergency Plan’s talking points are Greta’s talking points. “Around the year 2030, in 10 years, 252 days and 10 hours,” the Scandinavian Cassandra told British parliamentarians in April, “we will be in a position where we set off an irreversible chain reaction beyond human control that will most likely lead to the end of our civilisation as we know it.” The only way to save ourselves is to follow the Climate Emergency Plan and green the global energy business through massive government investment and emergency legislation.
Wijkman sees Greta as vital to pushing the “climate emergency” strategy on Europe’s political class. “We had many scientists and climate researchers who have been speaking in terms of emergency for a number of years,” he told me. “But it is only now, in the past couple of months, that the concept of emergency has been more or less accepted.”
He said Greta has been “instrumental” to this breakthrough. “Young people seemed not to pay much attention only half a year ago, but now obviously they do. So she has been a lightning rod or catalyst of this.”
Has Rentzhog been essential to Greta’s rise? “Yes, yes,” said Wijkman, though he finds it hard to quantify to what degree. “I don’t know how much he’s been influential. I think that Greta and her father and mother are quite skilled.”
Svante claims his daughter “acts independently of any organisation or individual”. Yet Wijkman says Greta has “good advisers”, such as climate change professor Kevin Anderson. Anderson claims only to “discuss” Greta’s ideas and “correct” her manuscripts, but Wijkman is certain he does more. “I know that he has given her a lot of advice in terms of substance,” he said.
In January, Rentzhog and We Don’t Have Time used Greta’s face and story in promotional materials for a new venture’s share issue. Rentzhog claimed the family knew, but Greta and her parents insisted they did not. They announced their association with Rentzhog was over — a curious statement, considering that Svante claims they had never associated with him in the first place.
Greta’s new press agent, Daniel Donner, works from the office of a Brussels lobby group, the European Climate Foundation. Still, We Don’t Have Time retweet Greta as if nothing has changed. In a way, nothing has. Whatever Greta or her parents know or think, her eco-mob increases the likelihood of legislation and investment that will make colossal profits for those such as Global Challenge, We Don’t Have Time and Sustainable Energy Angels, as well as for the British and American lobbyists and corporations clambering aboard her campaign.
For energy titans in Sweden, as elsewhere, saving the planet means government contracts to print the green stuff. Green energy lobbyists are using populist scare tactics and a children’s crusade to bypass elected representatives. But the destination is technocracy, not democracy; profit, not redistribution. Greta, a child of woke capitalism, is being used to ease the transition to green corporatism.
London/Sunday Times.
Greta Thunberg and the Plot to Forge a Climate Warrior
Date: 23/08/19
Dominic Green, The Times
The teenage activist Greta Thunberg wants nothing more than to change the world. The shadowy cabal behind her has other goals.
Greta Thunberg’s great American adventure has begun. Last Wednesday, she set sail from Plymouth like the pilgrims did, her Mayflower a zero-carbon but very expensive racing yacht; her goal not religious liberty but a camera-rich turn at the UN’s climate change conference in New York.
Meanwhile, on dry land, GQ magazine recently appointed Greta its “game changer of the year”, with a cover image in which the teenager, whether she realises it or not, strikes a stern, finger-pointing pose reminiscent of Lord Kitchener’s First World War recruiting poster and tells Britain’s feckless carbon-emitters: “To do your best is no longer good enough.”
Greta is just an ordinary 16-year-old Swedish schoolgirl whose fiery visions have convinced the parliaments of Britain and Ireland to declare a “climate emergency”. Her parents, Svante Thunberg and Malena Ernman, an actor and opera singer respectively, are just an ordinary pair of parent-managers who want to save the planet. Query their motives and you risk being accused of “climate denial”, or of bullying a vulnerable child with Asperger’s syndrome.
However, the Greta phenomenon has also involved green lobbyists, PR hustlers, eco-academics and a think tank founded by a wealthy former minister in Sweden’s Social Democratic government with links to the country’s energy companies. These companies are preparing for the biggest bonanza of government contracts in history: the greening of the western economies. Greta, whether she and her parents know it or not, is the face of their political strategy.
The family’s story is that Greta launched a one-girl “school strike” at the Swedish parliament on the morning of August 20 last year. Ingmar Rentzhog, the founder of a social media platform, We Don’t Have Time, happened to be passing. Inspired, Rentzhog posted Greta’s photograph on his own Facebook page. By late afternoon, the newspaper Dagens Nyheter had Greta’s story and face on its website. The rest is viral.
But this isn’t the full story. In emails, Rentzhog told me that he “met Greta for the first time” at the parliament and “did not know Greta or Greta’s parents” before then. Yet in the same emails, the media entrepreneur admitted to having met Greta’s mother “3-4 months before everything started” — in early May last year, when he and Malena shared a stage at a Stockholm conference called the Climate Parliament.
Nor did Rentzhog stumble on Greta’s protest by accident. He now admits to having been informed “the week before [via] a mailing list from a climate activist” named Bo Thoren.
Rebecca Weidmo Uvell, an independent journalist, has obtained an earlier email that reveals Thoren, the leader of a group called Fossil Free Dalsland, was searching for fresh green faces.
In February last year, he invited a group of environmental activists, academics and politicians to plan “how we can involve and get help from young people to increase the pace of the transition to a sustainable society”. In May that year, after Greta won second prize in an environmental writing competition run by the newspaper Svenska Dagbladet, Thoren approached all the competition winners with a plan for a “school strike” modelled on the walkouts by pupils after the shootings at a high school in Parkland, Florida, a few months before.
“But no one was interested,” Greta’s mother claimed, “so Greta decided to do it for herself.”
Fortunately, Greta’s decision coincided with the publication of Scenes from the Heart, her parents’ memoir of how working to save the planet had saved their family. Unfortunately, Malena omitted to tell her publisher that Rentzhog had commandeered Greta’s stunt.
“We had a problem,” recalled Malena’s editor, Jonas Axelsson. “Journalists asked if it was promotion for the book. It wasn’t at all. It was a nightmare.”
It was, however, a dream for Rentzhog. He combined Thoren’s plan, Malena’s musical fame, Greta’s uncanny charisma and his social media platform’s mailing list. And that turned Greta into a viral celebrity.
"I have not invented Greta,” Rentzhog insisted, “but I helped to spread her action to an international audience.”
Trained by former US vice-president Al Gore’s environmental group, the Climate Reality Project, Rentzhog set up We Don’t Have Time in late 2017 to “hold leaders and companies accountable for climate change” by leveraging “the power of social media”.
He and his chief operating officer, David Olsson, have backgrounds in finance, not environmental activism: Rentzhog as the founder of Laika Consulting, an investment relations company, and Olsson with Svenska Bostadsfonden, one of Sweden’s biggest property funds, whose board Rentzhog joined in June 2017. The platform’s investors included Gustav Stenbeck, whose family control Kinnevik, one of Sweden’s largest investment corporations.
In May last year, Rentzhog became the chairman and Olsson a board member of a think tank called Global Utmaning (Global Challenge). Its founder, Kristina Persson, is an heir to an industrial fortune. A career trade unionist and former Social Democratic Party politician, she was the Swedish government’s “minister for the future” between 2014 and 2016. She is also a former deputy governor of Sweden’s central bank and a “new-ager” who has talked about being reincarnated and communicating with the dead.
Petter Skogar, the president of Sweden’s biggest employers’ association, is also on Global Challenge’s 10-person board. So is Anders Wijkman, a former co-president of the Club of Rome, former chairman of the environmental objectives committee and a recipient last February of Thoren’s call for youth mobilisation.
Among Global Challenge’s senior advisers is Catharina Nystedt Ringborg, a former chief executive of Swedish Water, an adviser to the International Energy Agency and a former vice-president of the Swedish-Swiss energy giant ABB. Ringborg is also a member of Sustainable Energy Angels, a green energy venture capital firm, the members of which are a Who’s Who of the Swedish energy sector. Its president and the chairman of its investment committee are former ABB personnel, as are four of its 17 members.
So, when Greta met Rentzhog, he was the salaried chairman of a private think tank owned by a former Social Democrat minister with a background in the energy sector. His board was stacked with powerful sectoral interests, including career Social Democrat politicians, union leaders, and lobbyists with links to Brussels. And his board’s vice-chairwoman, Ringborg, was a member of one of Sweden’s most powerful green energy investment groups.
Greta and her parents probably did not know this — and Rentzhog seems to have wanted to keep it that way. On September 2 last year, just after Rentzhog claimed to have stumbled on Greta protesting outside parliament, the Dagens Nyheter newspaper ran a long opinion piece on the need to force the greening of the global economy by “bottom-up” action against national governments, including “broad social mobilisation . . . reminiscent of what takes place in communities threatened by war”.
Greta’s mother was one of nine signatories, as were Persson and three other Global Challenge board members, though they cited other affiliations. Only Rentzhog admitted that he was associated with Global Challenge.
An English edition of the article identifies Rentzhog and Wijkman as its authors. Rentzhog claims that “many of us involved in Global Challenge were also involved” in writing it. He admitted to me by email that he showed Malena “the article and the other signatures, but not their titles for Global Challenge”.
Greta’s father, Svante, who now devotes himself to managing his daughter’s career, declined requests for an interview and refused to respond to a detailed list of written questions about Rentzhog and Global Challenge. Instead, he issued a three-paragraph statement through an intermediary, saying that “neither I nor Greta feel qualified to answer” questions about Rentzhog’s business connections and when the family might have known about them.
Svante also claims that “we have never worked with” Rentzhog’s social media platform or Global Challenge. Yet Greta served on the We Don’t Have Time advisory board between last November and January this year, and Malena signed a letter with four Global Challenge board members. When I asked Rentzhog if he had introduced Greta and her parents to other Global Challenge board members, he replied: “I don’t know. Maybe I did, but if Svante says no, maybe it was not connected.”
Svante refuses to answer questions about whether he and Greta have met members of the Global Challenge board. But Wijkman remembers.
Wijkman used to lead the Club of Rome, whose alarmist 1972 report, The Limits to Growth, has become a cornerstone of the “climate emergency” campaign. Last December, We Don’t Have Time and Global Challenge launched the Club of Rome’s latest vision of apocalypse, the Climate Emergency Plan. Greta, Rentzhog told me, was invited to the launch event, but was unable to attend as she was already booked to deliver a TED Talk.
The Climate Emergency Plan’s talking points are Greta’s talking points. “Around the year 2030, in 10 years, 252 days and 10 hours,” the Scandinavian Cassandra told British parliamentarians in April, “we will be in a position where we set off an irreversible chain reaction beyond human control that will most likely lead to the end of our civilisation as we know it.” The only way to save ourselves is to follow the Climate Emergency Plan and green the global energy business through massive government investment and emergency legislation.
Wijkman sees Greta as vital to pushing the “climate emergency” strategy on Europe’s political class. “We had many scientists and climate researchers who have been speaking in terms of emergency for a number of years,” he told me. “But it is only now, in the past couple of months, that the concept of emergency has been more or less accepted.”
He said Greta has been “instrumental” to this breakthrough. “Young people seemed not to pay much attention only half a year ago, but now obviously they do. So she has been a lightning rod or catalyst of this.”
Has Rentzhog been essential to Greta’s rise? “Yes, yes,” said Wijkman, though he finds it hard to quantify to what degree. “I don’t know how much he’s been influential. I think that Greta and her father and mother are quite skilled.”
Svante claims his daughter “acts independently of any organisation or individual”. Yet Wijkman says Greta has “good advisers”, such as climate change professor Kevin Anderson. Anderson claims only to “discuss” Greta’s ideas and “correct” her manuscripts, but Wijkman is certain he does more. “I know that he has given her a lot of advice in terms of substance,” he said.
In January, Rentzhog and We Don’t Have Time used Greta’s face and story in promotional materials for a new venture’s share issue. Rentzhog claimed the family knew, but Greta and her parents insisted they did not. They announced their association with Rentzhog was over — a curious statement, considering that Svante claims they had never associated with him in the first place.
Greta’s new press agent, Daniel Donner, works from the office of a Brussels lobby group, the European Climate Foundation. Still, We Don’t Have Time retweet Greta as if nothing has changed. In a way, nothing has. Whatever Greta or her parents know or think, her eco-mob increases the likelihood of legislation and investment that will make colossal profits for those such as Global Challenge, We Don’t Have Time and Sustainable Energy Angels, as well as for the British and American lobbyists and corporations clambering aboard her campaign.
For energy titans in Sweden, as elsewhere, saving the planet means government contracts to print the green stuff. Green energy lobbyists are using populist scare tactics and a children’s crusade to bypass elected representatives. But the destination is technocracy, not democracy; profit, not redistribution. Greta, a child of woke capitalism, is being used to ease the transition to green corporatism.
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This thread has little to do with "climate change science".
It's actually a treatise on media and political brainwashing.
It's actually a treatise on media and political brainwashing.
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Well we can all see that. "I am a scientist"...so why don't you post any articles from scientists?
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Amazing stuff.
They can't formulate the actual current & eddy factors for the oceans but supposedly they can measure the entire oceanic temperature fluctuation down to one thousandth of a degree.Those thermometers working at ~15,000 psi in the Mariana Trench must be damn fine pieces of instrumentation.
www.dailymail.co.uk
If these people were selling cars, they would be shut down by lunch time........................but............Oh no, this is climate "science".
You couldn't measure a tropical fish tank to this level of accuracy, much less the entire content of the worlds oceans
They can't formulate the actual current & eddy factors for the oceans but supposedly they can measure the entire oceanic temperature fluctuation down to one thousandth of a degree.Those thermometers working at ~15,000 psi in the Mariana Trench must be damn fine pieces of instrumentation.
Oceans were the warmest in 2019 than ever before in human history
The world's oceans were the warmest in 2019 than at any other time in recorded human history, a new study from US and Chinese researchers has found.
If these people were selling cars, they would be shut down by lunch time........................but............Oh no, this is climate "science".
You couldn't measure a tropical fish tank to this level of accuracy, much less the entire content of the worlds oceans
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Other than renewables what else do you think we should be doing?No. I am all for renewables so long as the producers contribute to the distribution infrastructure costs and find a way to maintain baseload.
I absolutely, encourage & endorse investment in developing new cleaner technology, and more so, a clean up of the environment and less waste /pollution particularly in the sea.
Not kicking and screaming but applauding!
I haven't previously bothered with dear sick little Greta. I am more worried for seemingly increasing young naïve people who think she, and they, are anything but absolute hypocrites! and all the chest beating self righteous hysteria without offering any practical solution nor personal sacrifice!
Amazing stuff.
They can't formulate the actual current & eddy factors for the oceans but supposedly they can measure the entire oceanic temperature fluctuation down to one thousandth of a degree.Those thermometers working at ~15,000 psi in the Mariana Trench must be damn fine pieces of instrumentation.
Oceans were the warmest in 2019 than ever before in human history
The world's oceans were the warmest in 2019 than at any other time in recorded human history, a new study from US and Chinese researchers has found.
If these people were selling cars, they would be shut down by lunch time........................but............Oh no, this is climate "science".
You couldn't measure a tropical fish tank to this level of accuracy, much less the entire content of the worlds oceans
You guessed wrong. Why would anyone want to deny a thermometer reading of 0.075C? Or didn’t you read that far?
All we have here is a random figbooty tinfoil hatter making wild claims and using terminology such as junk science.
apparently your research is published on a site which approves global warming. Remind us of your qualifications Snakey, and link us to your work. No?
Thought not.
https://www.iucn.org/resources/issues-briefs/ocean-warming
https://www.oceanscientists.org/index.php/topics/ocean-warming
Climate Change Indicators: Sea Surface Temperature | US EPA
This indicator describes global trends in sea surface temperature.
I could go on and on...but you get the picture. Post link to some evidence that sea temps are stable. A credible site. Not WUWT or the Global Warming whatever it is led by Lawson or Pierre Goslin or no MA classics or high school failed "expert".
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That little image you posted for the kiddies earlier showed human contributions to CO2 as 100 times that of volcanoes. I don’t detect a clarity of thought in your thinking. Just a grab bag of lame gotchas you’ve spent 10 minutes trawling the internet for.
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This shows the true lack of scientific thinking in your science brain. We can’t predict where each subatomic particle of your car will be at that level of precision, but we definitely track the movement of your car.Amazing stuff.
They can't formulate the actual current & eddy factors for the oceans but supposedly they can measure the entire oceanic temperature fluctuation down to one thousandth of a degree.Those thermometers working at ~15,000 psi in the Mariana Trench must be damn fine pieces of instrumentation.
Oceans were the warmest in 2019 than ever before in human history
The world's oceans were the warmest in 2019 than at any other time in recorded human history, a new study from US and Chinese researchers has found.
If these people were selling cars, they would be shut down by lunch time........................but............Oh no, this is climate "science".
You couldn't measure a tropical fish tank to this level of accuracy, much less the entire content of the worlds oceans
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I guess in a generic pass science degree you do by correspondence you never encounter the finite element method or effective field theory.
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sock puppets..............everywhere.
LOL quality reply, you say i don't wish to talk about the subject, when i do, you run away with tail between your legs.. You are fooling no one, "i am a scientist".
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The entire province of Alberta is now under an extreme cold warning as an arctic air mass settles over the prairies, bringing with it windchill values of -45C to -50C.
Environment Canada expects the extreme cold snap to last through this week and even into Sunday for some regions. Calgary should see some relief, though, by Sunday, when the high is expected to reach 2C.
Until then, though, the cold weather will be unrelenting, with highs barely reaching -25C and lows below -30C.
The average temperature for this time of year is a high of -3 and a low of -15.
calgarysun.com
Environment Canada expects the extreme cold snap to last through this week and even into Sunday for some regions. Calgary should see some relief, though, by Sunday, when the high is expected to reach 2C.
Until then, though, the cold weather will be unrelenting, with highs barely reaching -25C and lows below -30C.
The average temperature for this time of year is a high of -3 and a low of -15.
Entire province under extreme cold warning; windchills could hit -50C
The entire province of Alberta is now under an extreme cold warning as an arctic air mass settles over the prairies, bringing with it windchill values of -45C…
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The idea that you can’t discretize over a continuous sample domain and capture all of the signal is something a 2nd year engineering student learns isn’t true. This once again proves that engineers truly are superior to scientists.
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He’s made some woeful mistakes in reasoning and basic mathematical errors that he’s not a very good scientist. Good at rote memorisation maybe, but that only takes you so far.
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Where is the correlation?
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The level of cloud shouting in this thread is quite hilarious. What do all of these self titled "superior" intellects have to prove?
That "i am a scientist" and great to see how "interested" you are about the subject. You are just interested in echo chambers, not an actual discussion.
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Here is a hard truth to ponder, Greta: if the great producers of this world whom you excoriate were to withdraw their productivity, wealth and talents—in short—their minds from the world today, your generation would simply perish. Why? Because as children you have done nothing as yet, with your lives besides being born. This is what we expect of children until such time as they can be producers by learning from their elders. You are understandably social and ecological ballast. You are not yet cognitively advanced to replicate the structures of survival of which you are the beneficiaries.
Children are important installments on the future. We have invested in you. It is you and your smug generation which think they have nothing to learn from the older ones who are failing themselves. Whom do you expect to employ the majority of you if you have neither the job credentials or life competency skills to navigate the world? The future unemployable-skipping- school-on-Friday obstreperous children?
The truth, as one anonymous blogger aptly put it, is that your generation is unable to work up to forty hours per week without being chronically depressed and anxious. Its members cannot even decide if they want to be a boy or a girl, or both, or neither, or a “they.” They cannot eat meat without crying. I might add that your generation needs “trigger warnings” and “safe spaces” as pre-conditions for learning in school. Its members have a pathological need to be coddled and protected from the challenging realities of life. Your generation is the biggest demander and consumer of carbon spewing technological gadgets and devices. An hour without any of them and too many of you succumb to paralyzing lethargy. Your generation is the least curious and most insular set of individuals one has ever encountered. Your hubris extends so far that you think you have nothing to learn from your elders.
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Children are important installments on the future. We have invested in you. It is you and your smug generation which think they have nothing to learn from the older ones who are failing themselves. Whom do you expect to employ the majority of you if you have neither the job credentials or life competency skills to navigate the world? The future unemployable-skipping- school-on-Friday obstreperous children?
The truth, as one anonymous blogger aptly put it, is that your generation is unable to work up to forty hours per week without being chronically depressed and anxious. Its members cannot even decide if they want to be a boy or a girl, or both, or neither, or a “they.” They cannot eat meat without crying. I might add that your generation needs “trigger warnings” and “safe spaces” as pre-conditions for learning in school. Its members have a pathological need to be coddled and protected from the challenging realities of life. Your generation is the biggest demander and consumer of carbon spewing technological gadgets and devices. An hour without any of them and too many of you succumb to paralyzing lethargy. Your generation is the least curious and most insular set of individuals one has ever encountered. Your hubris extends so far that you think you have nothing to learn from your elders.
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You're just embarrassing him now. Poor bastard has realised he's rocked up to a gun fight with a butter knife.
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