Autopsy Clutch Win at the MCG, Freo Down the Pies

[Purple Suit]

He wasn't on his own there either. I think Serong had a ping and missed, Young had a shot and missed as well as a forward half turnover that he then kicked straight to the only Pies players in the fifty.

I'm sure if they could have those moments again Frederick puts it in space in front of Voss for a simple chest mark and set shot, Serong steadies for two more steps and scores, Young does the same with his shot and then hits a target nearly right in front with a minute to go for a mark and set shot putting us up to 7 points up with 30 seconds left.

Footy is just moments. Our moments worked out. Those little touches that had the Pies clearances spill, that tackle from O'Meara where he brought the ball to ground by himself and got the repeat stoppage.

Just moments that went right.

The Young kick he just took the wrong option, he had Bolton running into space and could have easily hit him under a bit of pressure to have a kick 50m out on a 30 degree angle. He might have kicked a point though as it was similar to the winner and Pies could have gone coast to coast to get the win. How it all worked out was perfect.

 

[GingerDocker]

He was having a quiet game & sometimes you just want to impact. It wasn’t an outrageous shot to take & the coaches would back him in to take it.

Agreed.

If he attempted the pass to Voss and fluffed it, we would have the pitchforks out saying he should have the confidence to take the shot when in the clear.

It was a skill error, not a decision making error.

 

[Taylor]

The Young kick he just took the wrong option, he had Bolton running into space and could have easily hit him under a bit of pressure to have a kick 50m out on a 30 degree angle. He might have kicked a point though as it was similar to the winner and Pies could have gone coast to coast to get the win. How it all worked out was perfect.

It's always more enjoyable watching a replay, seeing the clangers and bad kicks, when you know we win anyway. In the moment I scared every dog in Joondalup screaming at the TV at the missed chances at the end there.

 

[Alfonz]

Who knows what happens if Freddy passes it. Could have stuffed the pass or the recipient kicks a point anyway or out on the full.

Voss tends to hang his kicks out to the right and they draw back. Kicking from that pocket might not be the easiest shot for him, especially if pushed wide.

I actually think Amiss was a better option than Voss, as it was a straight pass with nobody between the two of them. Rather than chipping it up and over a player to Voss. And Quaynor on Amiss has already given up on Amiss and made the decision before Freddy kicks it to cover Voss.

But that little hit up is more the thing you do when outside range (e.g. Reid to Treacy in last quarter versus Hawks).

I've lost count of the number of times I've been spewing when our player wouldn't take the shot from 40-50m on the run, and tries a dinky little pass and stuffs it up.

 

[Taylor]

I've lost count of the number of times I've been spewing when our player wouldn't take the shot from 40-50m on the run, and tries a dinky little pass and stuffs it up.

The most memorable one was Stephen Hill about 20m out handballing to Mayne who put it into the post.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

I agree, I think Freddie was within his rights to take the shot, he's 40 out almost directly in front, and he's made a skill error. Fully accept that and hope he continued to back himself.

All well and good, but he was running in the direction the ball ultimately went, the left point post.
What that meant was he needed a bit of an outside of the boot check side kick to kick a goal. He took the low % option and I’d bet quids he came in for some serious criticism when they reviewed it.
I would agree with you if he had have been running straight at the goals. 40 metres out in the corridor and kicking straight through the ball is a regulation shot for players like Freddy.

 

[Alfonz]

All well and good, but he was running in the direction the ball ultimately went, the left point post.
What that meant was he needed a bit of an outside of the boot check side kick to kick a goal. He took the low % option and I’d bet quids he came in for some serious criticism when they reviewed it.
I would agree with you if he had have been running straight at the goals. 40 metres out in the corridor and kicking straight through the ball is a regulation shot for players like Freddy.

You might want to watch it again because Freddy is actually running straight at the goals. This grab also shows the shorter/easier pass he could have made to Amiss dead in front instead of Voss.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Think we just have to take the good with the bad when it comes to Shai, he will definitely do things that will come across as selfish play, but he will also pull off the random arse-y goal from nowhere that can turn a game…I have learn to expect the unexpected with him, and to just enjoy the ride that is the Bolton train..

Yep. Shai should always have the license to be Shai. Take the sublime with the infuriating.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

You might want to watch it again because Freddy is actually running straight at the goals. This grab also shows the shorter/easier pass he could have made to Amiss dead in front instead of Voss.


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Fair enough. That sure wasn’t my recollection of the video though. But I’ll defer to your still image.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

You might want to watch it again because Freddy is actually running straight at the goals. This grab also shows the shorter/easier pass he could have made to Amiss dead in front instead of Voss.


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Not replying to your post, just using the image.

If he missed the short kick we all would have yelled take the shot. It’s easy to reflect & look back but the time he had to make that decision is about 1 second, with Sidebum yelling from behind & pressure coming from the front. In that situation having the shot or passing it is the right decision. The execution of the skill is the issue.

 

[yakamoto]

In that 1 second Freddie was undoubtedly thinking: What if I kick it over Nev’s head straight to Quanor. If I kick it to Vossy he’s due to miss an easy one. Bugger it. I best have a crack myself.

 

[estibador]

What's the bet if he kicks that to Amiss the umps suddenly remember the not 15 rule exists.

 

[Purple Suit]

What's the bet if he kicks that to Amiss the umps suddenly remember the not 15 rule exists.

100%

Even though it's a 20m kick it would be called play on, unlike the 10m kick the Pies did for their last shot on goal.

 

[AFL Nut]

Am I the only one who thinks Pendelbury & Daicos both threw the ball over their heads in the last 30 seconds ?? & Moore was arrogant referencing Treacy as “old mate” when interviewed after the game

 

[Bringbacktheeighties]

Ummm…Frederick was about 47m out with a 20m open short pass to Amiss who was completely OPEN and 35m out.
Voss was 15-20M clear of anyone and 20M out but on an angle
O’Driscoll was running past him on his right , completely Open. Admittedly wrong foot.

I mean , why would anyone say he did the right thing and take the shot from so far out. If he was 30 - 35 m out then yeh.

I think it was the wrong decision.

 

[freo84]

Ummm…Frederick was about 47m out with a 20m open short pass to Amiss who was completely OPEN and 35m out.
Voss was 15-20M clear of anyone and 20M out but on an angle
O’Driscoll was running past him on his right , completely Open. Admittedly wrong foot.

I mean , why would anyone say he did the right thing and take the shot from so far out. If he was 30 - 35 m out then yeh.

I think it was the wrong decision.

100% wrong decision.

You kick it to the guy that wasn't missing in Voss as he was well clear. Kicking to Amiss may have been rebounded out so I thought it was riskier.

He took the 4th and worst option.

 

[Nodgey]

Freddie missed a similar shot late against Sydney. I hope this isn’t a pattern. If you take that shot you have to nail it. The best sides turn that chance into a certain goal.

 

[mattis117]

Ummm…Frederick was about 47m out with a 20m open short pass to Amiss who was completely OPEN and 35m out.
Voss was 15-20M clear of anyone and 20M out but on an angle
O’Driscoll was running past him on his right , completely Open. Admittedly wrong foot.

I mean , why would anyone say he did the right thing and take the shot from so far out. If he was 30 - 35 m out then yeh.

I think it was the wrong decision.

Because the probability of Frederick making that kick are similar to the probability of him making the kick to Amiss or Voss and them kicking straight. Frederick is usually quite a reliable kick.

 

[Purple Jesus]

You might want to watch it again because Freddy is actually running straight at the goals. This grab also shows the shorter/easier pass he could have made to Amiss dead in front instead of Voss.


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He's inside 50 with no one pressuring him, he should have a ping.

 

[88mph]

Just came here to say I’m still dining out on that win

It’s like an all you can eat buffet.

 

[Kapow!!!]

He's inside 50 with no one pressuring him, he should have a ping.

Lets see, the risks of passing are Voss is on a tight angle with coverage streaming towards him, Amiss is a short pass which could easily miss which sees a very quick rebound.

Don't get me wrong: He should be able to make those passes and the reward for doing that are easier shots at goal and control over the clock & scoreboard. But he should also be nailing that shot at least 6-7 times out of 10. I personally think, especially in tight games, the far more egregious sin is missing out on scoring entirely/conceeding a quick rebound because you missed a setup pass than just going for goal and removing that middle element of doubt.

If he was outside 50 or had coverage coming at him then yes, passing is the best if not only correct option. But he has to back himself to take that shot. The risk assessment is in his favour. He's not Danyle Pearce, he can make that shot.

 

[Bringbacktheeighties]

Because the probability of Frederick making that kick are similar to the probability of him making the kick to Amiss or Voss and them kicking straight. Frederick is usually quite a reliable kick.

Sounds like we will just have to disagree on this one.
I can’t imagine a coach telling a player to have a ping from just inside 50 when he has two key forwards open and closer to goal.

He had multiple options, that’s the one he chose. On another day he might of nailed it.
We still win the game and move on.

 

[mattis117]

Sounds like we will just have to disagree on this one.
I can’t imagine a coach telling a player to have a ping from just inside 50 when he has two key forwards open and closer to goal.

He had multiple options, that’s the one he chose. On another day he might of nailed it.
We still win the game and move on.

It's not a disagreement - both options were good options in this case. Fans on here are ok to see forwards back themselves because too often we see them try to hit the pass and failing instead of taking the clear shot.

I would imagine Frederick nails that shot 8 out 10 at training.

 

[freoextra]

It's not a disagreement - both options were good options in this case. Fans on here are ok to see forwards back themselves because too often we see them try to hit the pass and failing instead of taking the clear shot.

I would imagine Frederick nails that shot 8 out 10 at training.

Agreed and as I am one of those supporters that shout at our players for not taking a clear shot when it is on, I can’t be critical of Freddie on that occasion.

 

[Paracleet]

I dunno about these options people are complaining he ignored. There was clear grass for him to take to put himself in a good shooting position. Certainly Amiss wasn't an option. His man only left him free when it was clear the shot was coming and needed pressuring. I'd expect if I go back to the replay that Voss wasn't clear of his man either till after Freddy was already committed to his shooting action.

Reid might have hit one of those targets, but not anyone else on the ground on either team.