List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2015

[TW Sherrin]

Because it looks as if GWS want pick 28 from Carlton. Carlton will get pick 28 from Adelaide in the Menzel deal (trade 1). Pick 28 (and pick 20/21) will go from Carlton to GWS as a part of the four player deal (trade 2). GWS will then have pick 20/21, pick 27 and pick 28 in this years draft, presumably they don't need all of them. As such, pick 28 will likely come to Collingwood as a part of the Treloar deal (trade 3). Due to Brisbane having academy kids they want to pick up this year, they're likely to want two second rounders this year to help pay for them (which might be why we haven't done a deal for pick 26 and St.Kilda's 2016 second rounder). Finally, we might give up pick 26 and pick 28 for Aish (trade 4). Brisbane might want to pick up Bastinac from North with pick 26 or pick 28 (trade 5).

However, why can't GWS just give us pick 27 now and be done with it? Because they then don't have the insurance of holding both pick 27 and pick 28. So understandably they want the Carlton deal to go through first (although they might be angling to get both pick 20 and pick 21 from Carlton). At the other end, what if North won't take pick 26 or pick 28 for Bastinac? Will Brisbane take pick 26 and pick 28 for Aish without assurance that Bastinac is coming for one of those picks? What if North want a pick in the low 20's for Bastinac? Will GWS give up pick 20/21 for Treloar? Would Brisbane give up pick 20/21 for Bastinac instead of pick 26?

Of course, I'm just speculating here (and likely to be wrong), but it's a very complicated process with other deals constantly hinging on other deals. Just because Hine isn't giving us hourly updates doesn't mean he isn't working his backside off to get deals done.



There's this really frustrating need for instant gratification throughout this thread. Dominoes clearly need to fall before we can land our players. We're the ones getting the big fish here and as such we'll get our players last. GWS and Brisbane are going to want to make sure they'll be satisfied first before giving up two very good young players. There's a reason that trade week goes as long as it does and it isn't to appease an impatient AFL supporter base.

 

[jackcass]

Stupid. Now how will GWS get that Pick?

Carlton still got picks 20 & 21.

 

[Matt_352]

Well the Menzel/Kerridge trade has gone down.

Now Waiting for Scum and GWS Trade then Treloar has to be next. We Hope

Come on

 

[Old Spice]

Because it looks as if GWS want pick 28 from Carlton. Carlton will get pick 28 from Adelaide in the Menzel deal (trade 1). Pick 28 (and pick 20/21) will go from Carlton to GWS as a part of the four player deal (trade 2). GWS will then have pick 20/21, pick 27 and pick 28 in this years draft, presumably they don't need all of them. As such, pick 28 will likely come to Collingwood as a part of the Treloar deal (trade 3). Due to Brisbane having academy kids they want to pick up this year, they're likely to want two second rounders this year to help pay for them (which might be why we haven't done a deal for pick 26 and St.Kilda's 2016 second rounder). Finally, we might give up pick 26 and pick 28 for Aish (trade 4). Brisbane might want to pick up Bastinac from North with pick 26 or pick 28 (trade 5).

However, why can't GWS just give us pick 27 now and be done with it? Because they then don't have the insurance of holding both pick 27 and pick 28. So understandably they want the Carlton deal to go through first (although they might be angling to get both pick 20 and pick 21 from Carlton). At the other end, what if North won't take pick 26 or pick 28 for Bastinac? Will Brisbane take pick 26 and pick 28 for Aish without assurance that Bastinac is coming for one of those picks? What if North want a pick in the low 20's for Bastinac? Will GWS give up pick 20/21 for Treloar? Would Brisbane give up pick 20/21 for Bastinac instead of pick 26?

Of course, I'm just speculating here (and likely to be wrong), but it's a very complicated process with other deals constantly hinging on other deals. Just because Hine isn't giving us hourly updates doesn't mean he isn't working his backside off to get deals done.



There's this really frustrating need for instant gratification throughout this thread. Dominoes clearly need to fall before we can land our players. We're the ones getting the big fish here and as such we'll get our players last. GWS and Brisbane are going to want to make sure they'll be satisfied first before giving up two very good young players. There's a reason that trade week goes as long as it does and it isn't to appease an impatient AFL supporter base.

I reckon Brisbane want Carlton's pick 21 plus another 2nd round for Aish. That may be the hold up from us 'not closing'.

 

[MagpieJoel]

 

[JOELY]

Carlton still got picks 20 & 21.

Just said it's not involved in the deal. We aren't getting one of them now it seems.

 

[iGNITER]

Carlton FCVerified account‏@CarltonFC
DONE DEAL: Carlton's picks 28, 77 & 95 & Geelong's 2016 1st-Rd pick go to GWS for pick No.8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips & Sumner. #BoundByBlue

 

[danielnajdek]

Get down there now Dekka and get it done!!!

 

[CFC2010]

Aren't we waiting for Carlton to trade in 4 players and give off their 2nd rounder which we get and pass on for Aish?

That would be my guess. Carlton, GWS, Brisbane, Pies mega deal.

That is what Eddie and Hine said and inturn what I posted yesterday but most here do not want to listen.

Most people are busy trying to hold up the sky!!!

 

[jmac70]

I reckon Brisbane want Carlton's pick 21 plus another 2nd round for Aish. That may be the hold up from us 'not closing'.

According to The Age Brisbane want two second rounders from the 2016 draft for Aish.

 

[TradeDraft]

Get down there now Dekka and get it done!!!

Bloody oath.

No More Excuse

 

[10571z]

Its all happening! Treloar trade will be next. Now GWS have the picks they need

 

[10571z]

According to The Age Brisbane want two second rounders from the 2016 draft for Aish.

We will be getting that from GWS from the Treloar deal..

 

[DAWESOME!!]

North and Brisbane have ****ed us over beautifully re Aish. By swapping 17 for Bastinac and a stack of second round picks:
- Brisbane now have enough points to get what their Academy kids this year, and have already got Bell and Bastinac.
- North now have a pick before us in the ND, that Aish definitely won't get past, before we pick
- Carlton will get him if he goes in the PSD.

Let's the Lions shift the goal posts on us last minute and say they only want 2016 picks and basically give them a pretext to not trade with us. Aish's options then are re-sign with the Lions or go to North or the Blues.

They've shafted us as well as they can.

 

[larrikan]

That is what Eddie and Hine said and inturn what I posted yesterday but most here do not want to listen.

Most people are busy trying to hold up the sky!!!

LOL They have too; apparently it's falling!

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Should be Treloar deal now, and then 24 hours to sort Aisho to the Pieso pronto.

 

[MAGPIE2013]

CONFIRMED TRADE

Carlton Receive: Pick No.8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips & Sumner.
Carlton Lose: Picks 28, 77 & 95 & Geelong's 2016 1st-Rd Pick for Henderson.

GWS Receive: Picks 28, 77 & 95 & Geelong's 2016 1st-Rd Pick for Henderson.
GWS Lose: Pick No.8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips & Sumner.

 

[Kilmo]

North and Brisbane have stuffed us over beautifully re Aish. By swapping 17 for Bastinac and a stack of second round picks:
- Brisbane now have enough points to get what their Academy kids this year, and have already got Bell and Bastinac.
- North now have a pick before us in the ND, that Aish definitely won't get past, before we pick
- Carlton will get him if he goes in the PSD.

Let's the Lions shift the goal posts on us last minute and say they only want 2016 picks and basically give them a pretext to not trade with us. Aish's options then are re-sign with the Lions or go to North or the Blues.

They've shafted us as well as they can.

Incorrect. If we miss out on Aish (which we won't) we continue as we are.
They have shafted themselves - they lose out on compensation for a first round player.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

So we'll end up with picks 26 and 28 and hope Brisbane are ok with those for Aish then.

Hm...

 

[Babylove]

The dominos are starting to fall. Hopefully our deals are next in the chain!

 

[jackcass]

Carlton FCVerified account‏@CarltonFC
DONE DEAL: Carlton's picks 28, 77 & 95 & Geelong's 2016 1st-Rd pick go to GWS for pick No.8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips & Sumner. #BoundByBlue

What are Geelong getting? Pick 8?

 

[MAGPIE2013]

I asked her. She gave me a flinty look and said 'no'.

(I might not be boffing her for a while either, it seems.)

Maybe you can take your own advice and watch some pr0n to make up for that

 

[jmac70]

We will be getting that from GWS from the Treloar deal..

The second rounder is from this draft.

 

[Kilmo]

CONFIRMED TRADE

Carlton Receive: Pick No.8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips & Sumner.
Carlton Lose: Picks 28, 77 & 95 & Geelong's 2016 1st-Rd Pick for Henderson.

GWS Receive: Picks 28, 77 & 95 & Geelong's 2016 1st-Rd Pick for Henderson.
GWS Lose: Pick No.8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips & Sumner.

Classic CARLTON

Out: 1st Rd, 2nd Rd, 4th Rd, 5th Rd

In: Four Mediocre NEAFL Players, One Mediocre WAFL Player (Pick 8)

 

[MagpieJoel]