List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

The West Aussie has had multiple concussions during his career and is considering a lucrative long term contract from West Coast which would help to secure his future....
“I”m feeling good. My history isn’t great but I wasn’t going to think twice and not do that. I feel good now. It’s nothing serious,”



Seriously, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck.... It's a duck.

No matter how much he or Brisbane plays it down for him to secure that lucrative contract.

Absurd to be trading high draft collateral for this bloke, and just as silly loading him up on a big contract. One head knock away from pulling a McGovern/Venables/Sheppard and we simply cannot be taking the risk at this point.

I get it will likely be a priority pick we have to trade, but that's not just something to throw away either. Should be looking at prying others loose (Davies, Steele, Walter, Butler even) with that pick.

Posters here downplaying his history before yet another concussion piss me off too. "He's never actually been concussed! Or maybe had one minor one once upon a time! HE'S FINE!"

Way too desperate for someone, anyone to nominate us.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Pick 1 CDT
Pick 2 + Hawthorn R1 traded to GC for Walter
Priority Pick traded to Bris for Starcevich

I too want to win the next 2 wooden spoons and then lose HR for pick 32 to Geelong.

 

[garlic munchers]

Absolute genius to bottom out whilst the Lions create the dynasty of all dynasties.

We will time our run beautifully!

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Posters here downplaying his history before yet another concussion piss me off too. "He's never actually been concussed! Or maybe had one minor one once upon a time! HE'S FINE!"

Way too desperate for someone, anyone to nominate us.

We've been going after him for 2 years now.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

That's just not true.

We need to cash in our chips before they're worth nothing. Getting #2 for Allan is a huge win. Ryan is doing f-all except for playing for free kicks.

We've already built a base of Harley, Hewitt, Ginbey, Hough. Around that, we have 15 young players who are hungry for a career. That base will build. I suspect Shanahan and maybe Reid will join that. Then we have pick #1 and #2 this year, and probably a top 5 pick for the next 2 years. The base will grow. The support around that will improve. Then we can bring in talented expats.

We didn't haver a choice other than a full rebuild. We didn't have a top 10 draft pick for 10 years. We didn't have any Daicos/Ashcroft type father sons. We didn't have a young Joel Selwood who had 12 years left. All our players got old, or shit, or old and shit.

We're playing the hand that we were dealt. The only major mistake we have made so far is coughing up #3 last year.

4 seasons of bottom 3 and that’s our base

 

[kingerzz]

If anyone that watched the Starcevich head knock and is not uneasy about signing him for 5-6 years at reportedly 900K p.a they're extremely reckless.

My biggest concern was the severity of the knock - it wasn't a huge collision and those sort of knocks happen to most players once or twice a year IMO.

Having said that with the (90%, 75%, 50% - years 1-3) outside the cap payments for concussion retirements I think I'd take a risk on a 4 year contract heavily front loaded. But I'd be only offering this on the proviso he is willing for us to play hard ball with Brisbane on a trade.

It's really unfortunate for him because he seems like a quality person and a very good player but that is a huge red flag for me.

 

[Astro7]

Debatable?

It was an egregious mistake .

Saying in a media interview Baker was worth pick 14 then allowed hawks to screw us over as they had that pick 14 was another massive mistake.

I have no faith in matty clarke after the bone head moves he made last year

Other say trust pyke .

The same guy who thought the power stance and critical minds camp were good ideas

It's not debatable, regardless the outcome. It was a bad decision. Any good outcome is pure luck rather than astute decision making.

Could have got Baker another way, for less. Could have kept pick 3. That is a much more desirable outcome at that point in time. Let's not lick Matthew Clarke's lollipop.

It's not debatable, yet you seem to be debating it? As I said, debatable for eternity? Coulda, shoulda, woulda...it's long time done+dusted, time to move on. Btw Baker turned out pretty well in the end, Graham not bad either. But knock yourself out over it.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

When did this happen?

When he signed the contract

 

[kranky al]

Ignoring the concussion issue I still don't understand why we would offer so much for him. He seems like a minor upgrade if one at all. Just a bizarre decision all round.

I reckon the thinking would be to release ginbey to a more attacking role.

 

[WCE777]

How is Duursma not in the top 2 mids in the draft?

Considered clear best player with the highest ceiling, plays outside to balanced mid.

He’s not HR levels of don’t trade the pick, but we would rightfully expect decent overs to part with it.

Assuming we take him we are very unlikely to get Sharp + Cumming as well (assuming we trade up) - we’ll take a tall as we have holes everywhere.

Duursma is an outside transition player and the best in this draft.
What he isn't is an outside balanced mid and if he was pick 10 or available at the Hawks 1st I would take him.
Outside players unless they are generational you take later in the 1st round, he isn't Peter Matera outside so happy to leave him on the shelf for decent overs if someone wants him.

We need mids of the best quality ASAP while we are down the bottom and while we start the draft with picks 1 & 2.
If we take Duursma we will need Sharp as the best inside mid and we either trade up to get Cumming which is the best balanced mid if we can or we trade up and take Schubert as the best KP player and turn him into a KPD with elite qualities.

There will be another group of elite mids in 2026 and appears to be a better group already, so taking 1 now and 2 then while not ideal is also an option.
The further you push the rebuild down the road the longer it takes to be competitive so that's why I would put Duursma up for sale to the highest bidder come draft time to then achieve our draft needs.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Duursma is an outside transition player and the best in this draft.
What he isn't is an outside balanced mid and if he was pick 10 or available at the Hawks 1st I would take him.
Outside players unless they are generational you take later in the 1st round, he isn't Peter Matera outside so happy to leave him on the shelf for decent overs if someone wants him.

We need mids of the best quality ASAP while we are down the bottom and while we start the draft with picks 1 & 2.
If we take Duursma we will need Sharp as the best inside mid and we either trade up to get Cumming which is the best balanced mid if we can or we trade up and take Schubert as the best KP player and turn him into a KPD with elite qualities.

There will be another group of elite mids in 2026 and appears to be a better group already, so taking 1 now and 2 then while not ideal is also an option.
The further you push the rebuild down the road the longer it takes to be competitive so that's why I would put Duursma up for sale to the highest bidder come draft time to then achieve our draft needs.

Whats a balanced mid?

Duursma offers the versatility we need for a mid. I think we need that Jaspa Fletcher style myself. Guy who goes to HB then comes into the midfield to offer a rotation

I dont think McCarthy should be doing this role. He should be focusing on kick-ins and providing run which is his strengths. When we chuck him into the midfield its square peg in a round hole

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

4 seasons of bottom 3 and that’s our base

Where were Adelaide last year?

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

It's not debatable, yet you seem to be debating it? As I said, debatable for eternity? Coulda, shoulda, woulda...it's long time done+dusted, time to move on. Btw Baker turned out pretty well in the end, Graham not bad either. But knock yourself out over it.

As I said. It was a bad decision. Blind Freddy can see it.

 

[Obeanie1]

The West Aussie has had multiple concussions during his career and is considering a lucrative long term contract from West Coast which would help to secure his future....
“I”m feeling good. My history isn’t great but I wasn’t going to think twice and not do that. I feel good now. It’s nothing serious,”

"Another head knock for Brandon Starcevich​

In a sour blow on a magnificent day for Brisbane, free agent Brandon Starcevich suffered another serious head knock. Midway through the third quarter, the hard-as-nails defender copped an inadvertent shoulder from Ollie Dempsey in a scramble for the ball that sent Starcevich to the turf. He suffered three concussions in a 13-game span from the end of 2024 to round one this season. As he weighs up his free agency options, a fourth knock in 14 months could put a question mark over his decision and his future."



Seriously, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck.... It's a duck.

No matter how much he or Brisbane plays it down for him to secure that lucrative contract.

Absurd to be trading high draft collateral for this bloke, and just as silly loading him up on a big contract. One head knock away from pulling a McGovern/Venables/Sheppard and we simply cannot be taking the risk at this point.

I get it will likely be a priority pick we have to trade, but that's not just something to throw away either. Should be looking at prying others loose (Davies, Steele, Walter, Butler even) with that pick.

3rd round pick or piss off Lions. Getting enough hand outs and free players as it is. Including our captain for no draft cost..

Agreed. We use any priority pick that must be traded on another player. Butler, Steele or Young. An actual player of need where we are lacking options.

Use it to find a ruck.

If we pony up a big contract and pay top dollar at the trade table for Starcevich the club needs to fold and Pyke pack his bags as that would be the exact opposite to what they have been saying. Every lever Don, EVERY lever.

And none of this, "we made a commitment". If he cant satisfy a medical including a concussion history assessment then thats bad luck all round for player and club.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Whats a balanced mid?

Can play inside and outside, depending on the situation. Tough, but not a bull. Good disposal and decision making. Pendlebury, Merritt, Shuey, McLuggage, Neale.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

It's not debatable, yet you seem to be debating it? As I said, debatable for eternity? Coulda, shoulda, woulda...it's long time done+dusted, time to move on. Btw Baker turned out pretty well in the end, Graham not bad either. But knock yourself out over it.

Clarke compounded the bad decision moreso then the Baker/Graham combo

We insanely overpaid in every way and he is going to do it again it seems with Starcevich

Ignoring weakness just leads to weakness continuing it feels.

 

[bzparkes]

Duursma is an outside transition player and the best in this draft.
What he isn't is an outside balanced mid and if he was pick 10 or available at the Hawks 1st I would take him.
Outside players unless they are generational you take later in the 1st round, he isn't Peter Matera outside so happy to leave him on the shelf for decent overs if someone wants him.

We need mids of the best quality ASAP while we are down the bottom and while we start the draft with picks 1 & 2.
If we take Duursma we will need Sharp as the best inside mid and we either trade up to get Cumming which is the best balanced mid if we can or we trade up and take Schubert as the best KP player and turn him into a KPD with elite qualities.

There will be another group of elite mids in 2026 and appears to be a better group already, so taking 1 now and 2 then while not ideal is also an option.
The further you push the rebuild down the road the longer it takes to be competitive so that's why I would put Duursma up for sale to the highest bidder come draft time to then achieve our draft needs.

You're looking at what he is now, not what he could be.

Fyfe was a skinny HFF when drafted.

Bontempelli was a mid/hbf, who was considered a predominantly outside player and had questions about his ability to do it on the inside.

Duursma is similar. Great athletic profile but a bit skinny. Can play in all 3 areas of the ground and had no trouble finding the ball.

He's also not afraid of trying to win the hardball in packs, despite what some people seem to think. He'll go hard when it's his turn.

Recruiters won't be looking at where he plays in his draft year but where he could play in the AFL.

Once he puts on size, he'll be hard to contain, IMO.

 

[Obeanie1]

Absolute genius to bottom out whilst the Lions create the dynasty of all dynasties.

We will time our run beautifully!

Problem is the Lions just set up their midfield for the next 10 years whilst playing three grand finals.

When we were contending we had no such assistance or good fortune getting top 3 picks for 50 cents in the dollar.

 

[Barrybran]

I reckon the thinking would be to release ginbey to a more attacking role.

I thought this as well but Starcevich's finals series was a better version of what Mini was trying with Brady Hough this season

 

[WCE777]

Whats a balanced mid?

Duursma offers the versatility we need for a mid. I think we need that Jaspa Fletcher style myself. Guy who goes to HB then comes into the midfield to offer a rotation

I dont think McCarthy should be doing this role. He should be focusing on kick-ins and providing run which is his strengths. When we chuck him into the midfield its square peg in a round hole

Balance mid is a N Anderson who has the power to go inside and the class on the outside to make things happen.
HR is a balanced mid with his skill set, Hewett is a balanced mid.

Duursma is the taller version of Fletcher but his strengths are his outside transition, he may be a rotation mid in time but the only reason I don't take Duursma is he is not the biggest immediate need.

Happy to take him but he would usually be a player you take in the second half of the 1st round.
That's why I don't want to spend a top 2 pick on him and would be more than happy to leave him for overs to achieve the other players of need in this years draft.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

You're looking at what he is now, not what he could be.

Fyfe was a skinny HFF when drafted.

Bontempelli was a mid/hbf, who was considered a predominantly outside player and had questions about his ability to do it on the inside.

Duursma is similar. Great athletic profile but a bit skinny. Can play in all 3 areas of the ground and had no trouble finding the ball.

He's also not afraid of trying to win the hardball in packs, despite what some people seem to think. He'll go hard when it's his turn.

Recruiters won't be looking at where he plays in his draft year but where he could play in the AFL.

Once he puts on size, he'll be hard to contain, IMO.

Duursma could be anything. Bont. Buddy.

It's more of a risk not to take him.

 

[Obeanie1]

You're looking at what he is now, not what he could be.

Fyfe was a skinny HFF when drafted.

Bontempelli was a mid/hbf, who was considered a predominantly outside player and had questions about his ability to do it on the inside.

Duursma is similar. Great athletic profile but a bit skinny. Can play in all 3 areas of the ground and had no trouble finding the ball.

He's also not afraid of trying to win the hardball in packs, despite what some people seem to think. He'll go hard when it's his turn.

Recruiters won't be looking at where he plays in his draft year but where he could play in the AFL.

Once he puts on size, he'll be hard to contain, IMO.

Exactly.

Wiillam standing next to Xavier at the Bombers looks like a beast and he is what, 5 years younger? Much taller and looks bigger already.

When Duursma puts on some size he will be very difficult to stop inside or outside.

And because of his flexibikity he was pushed outside in the champs to allow pure inside mids to show what they could do. And Duursma still showed plenty.

 

[bzparkes]

Duursma could be anything. Bont. Buddy.

It's more of a risk not to take him.

Yeah, you simply have to take the player with the highest upside at the top of the draft, unless there's significant worries over injury, of off field issues.

The latter is why Melbourne skipped on Dusty and took Scully & Trengove instead. Wouldn't be doing that if they had their time again...

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Balance mid is a N Anderson who has the power to go inside and the class on the outside to make things happen.
HR is a balanced mid with his skill set, Hewett is a balanced mid.

Duursma is the taller version of Fletcher but his strengths are his outside transition, he may be a rotation mid in time but the only reason I don't take Duursma is he is not the biggest immediate need.

Happy to take him but he would usually be a player you take in the second half of the 1st round.
That's why I don't want to spend a top 2 pick on him and would be more than happy to leave him for overs to achieve the other players of need in this years draft.

Duursma is the defensive balanced mid though which does exist and is a need. All the people you quoted are more or less offensive balanced mids.

Duursmas defensive side of marking, reading the play behind the ball and having a defensive side to me seems the type of fit we need because as you are saying we have the offensive balanced mids on the list already in Reid/Hewett

 

[bzparkes]

Balance mid is a N Anderson who has the power to go inside and the class on the outside to make things happen.
HR is a balanced mid with his skill set, Hewett is a balanced mid.

Duursma is the taller version of Fletcher but his strengths are his outside transition, he may be a rotation mid in time but the only reason I don't take Duursma is he is not the biggest immediate need.

Happy to take him but he would usually be a player you take in the second half of the 1st round.
That's why I don't want to spend a top 2 pick on him and would be more than happy to leave him for overs to achieve the other players of need in this years draft.

Reid wasn't a mid when drafted, he was a utility. That's actually kind of what Duursma is.

The best pure mid in Reid's draft was McKercher and I know who is prefer.