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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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I understand where the pro-Duursma people are coming from but we need actual midfielders more than potential midfielders. I do think the Fletcher comparison makes sense though in that Duursma will be someone you can plonk anywhere and he'll do well.

Lucky with also have pick 2 for an inside mid then.

We draft the best outside mid with inside potential.

Then draft the best inside mid.

Duursma is still one of those best mids.
 
Brisbane trying to clear an easy path for Starcevich and Eagles keen buyers ....is there any Duty of Care happening!!
Ducks and Drakes all over the place BUT he's a very good player .

Supposedly passing his HIA is a good sign but hard to not be concerned

Did an amazing job on Danger before it happened. Bloody good player
 

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Supposedly passing his HIA is a good sign but hard to not be concerned

Did an amazing job on Danger before it happened. Bloody good player
I was wondering whether he failed his concussion test or by the time his 20 minutes was up the game was done and dusted so they took the safe option.
Danger apparently played the best finals game in history last week and Starcevich destroyed him. Wouldn't discard him just yet.
 
Article on Starcevich but he doesnt say too much. Does sound like he could have come back on though.


I suspect Lions are banking on him going given they have Allen and Draper coming in on big deals and Answorth played Starc's role well earlier in the year. They also have Kiddy to come back in.
 
The West Aussie has had multiple concussions during his career and is considering a lucrative long term contract from West Coast which would help to secure his future....
“I”m feeling good. My history isn’t great but I wasn’t going to think twice and not do that. I feel good now. It’s nothing serious,”


"Another head knock for Brandon Starcevich

In a sour blow on a magnificent day for Brisbane, free agent Brandon Starcevich suffered another serious head knock. Midway through the third quarter, the hard-as-nails defender copped an inadvertent shoulder from Ollie Dempsey in a scramble for the ball that sent Starcevich to the turf. He suffered three concussions in a 13-game span from the end of 2024 to round one this season. As he weighs up his free agency options, a fourth knock in 14 months could put a question mark over his decision and his future."



Seriously, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck.... It's a duck.

No matter how much he or Brisbane plays it down for him to secure that lucrative contract.

Absurd to be trading high draft collateral for this bloke, and just as silly loading him up on a big contract. One head knock away from pulling a McGovern/Venables/Sheppard and we simply cannot be taking the risk at this point.

I get it will likely be a priority pick we have to trade, but that's not just something to throw away either. Should be looking at prying others loose (Davies, Steele, Walter, Butler even) with that pick.
Sure but in the scenario that we go to all of those players and they don't want to come here, what do people expect us to do with the pick that must be traded?

Starcevich is a risk and I don't think his 8 disposals a game is going to drastically improve us but I don't think it's realistic to think we can lure anyone else over to our 1 win basket case club.
 

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Given the likely rate of head knocks Starcevich has suffered in the past two seasons, there is no way he will see out a 6 year contract. The likelihood his first in Eagles colours may just spell the end, shows the risk is too much now.

We all didn't realise Gov was on that path, and he had no publicised head knocks prior to the Melksham incident. Starcevich has been well publicised and it will be monitored and talked about each time now.

Surely we can find another player in the AFL that would like a 900k x 6 year contract..
 
Duursma is an outside transition player and the best in this draft.
What he isn't is an outside balanced mid and if he was pick 10 or available at the Hawks 1st I would take him.
Outside players unless they are generational you take later in the 1st round, he isn't Peter Matera outside so happy to leave him on the shelf for decent overs if someone wants him.

We need mids of the best quality ASAP while we are down the bottom and while we start the draft with picks 1 & 2.
If we take Duursma we will need Sharp as the best inside mid and we either trade up to get Cumming which is the best balanced mid if we can or we trade up and take Schubert as the best KP player and turn him into a KPD with elite qualities.

There will be another group of elite mids in 2026 and appears to be a better group already, so taking 1 now and 2 then while not ideal is also an option.
The further you push the rebuild down the road the longer it takes to be competitive so that's why I would put Duursma up for sale to the highest bidder come draft time to then achieve our draft needs.
Bolded part is all that is needed to be said.

You don’t draft for needs with pick 1&2, you take the best available which is Duursma.

using pick 1 on a need is like bombers taking McGrath over Mcluggage because they “needed a defensive minded mid”.

Stick to your draft order.
 
You take best available. You don’t draft for need with top picks. He’s clearly the best available in this draft class given his production already, athletic profile and upside. Just take him.
I agree with all the Duursma love and what he is as a transition player.
I am stating this from our midfield deficiencies, which are many and trying to prioritise what is needed most.
He would be normally be a pick in the second part of the draft is my comparison.
If he ends up being Bont then we win big if we take him.

But you have to rationalise what a deficient midfield we have and what are our best needs when we have probably 2 drafts to fix it before the Tassie draft, which will take all the best players our of our reach in reality.

Like I said earlier Duursma is not a generational outside transition player, he is not Peter Matera so unless the pick 1 is a generational talent like HR, NN types you use your assets to achieve the best outcome for list needs.

The best inside, balanced mids are found in the top 5 generally speaking and then you add the cream transition outside players to that.
Its unfortunate that in this draft there is a lack of mid quality and that Duursma is being rated pick 1 because of the lack of mid quality.
But this is why we find ourselves in this scenario, do we take him as the cream with pick 1 or do we let others come for him with the highest bid and then that gets us the draft capital to take Sharp, Cumming and the best KP player in the draft in Schubert?
Because there will be very good transition players in every draft and there will be next year, its just a matter of what you prioritise this year.
If our midfield was almost complete I would be all over Duursma, but it isn't and I think we have other priorities in 2025 in the midfield.
Again if the offer for pick 1 isn't big overs then you take him.
 
You can’t possibly compare McCluggage kicking and vision to Duursma’s. On ceiling then yep fair enough.
I didn't make the original comparison. I was just pointing out to the original poster its a bizarre argument to compare Duursma to McCluggage but then conclude you're not sure if we should draft him.

To your point - sure - but when Brisbane drafted him he wasn't the finished product. They obviously believed he would become the player he has - but its not like he was Daicos gun from day one. Like most draftees you're drafting partly on potential as well
 
What high end talent did we miss out on by splitting last season?

Posters keep saying it but who did we miss?

If we had of taken Ried instead of Allan and he won the rising star award (which he likely wouldnt have with us) you would all be singing a totally different tune.
Draiper , jagga, Langford, travaglia , Lindsay all look better than allen before the draft .
 

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Bolded part is all that is needed to be said.

You don’t draft for needs with pick 1&2, you take the best available which is Duursma.

using pick 1 on a need is like bombers taking McGrath over Mcluggage.

It’s a dumb move.
Outside transition player is the bolded part which he is in this draft.
He isn't McCluggage he is more like a tall Fletcher, his bottom is McGrath but his top isn't McCluggage imo.
 
Given the likely rate of head knocks Starcevich has suffered in the past two seasons, there is no way he will see out a 6 year contract. The likelihood his first in Eagles colours may just spell the end, shows the risk is too much now.

We all didn't realise Gov was on that path, and he had no publicised head knocks prior to the Melksham incident. Starcevich has been well publicised and it will be monitored and talked about each time now.

Surely we can find another player in the AFL that would like a 900k x 6 year contract..

There would be many players in the league that would love 900k x 6. Until they realise that it is at a 1 win club on the other side of the country. With a heap of development and hard work ahead to get back into finals contention.

We are not an easy sell at this point in time. Have to be realists. Still ok with Starcevich but 6 years is now a bit too much (yesterday was a jarring reminder of his “fragility” re head knocks). Get Dev cheaply. And keep going re the draft. If we can acquire any non WA returning players via trade, great, but my fear is right now, that’s all who we can attract - those wanting to come home.
 
Starcevich is now on the Paddy McCartin level of concussion. His last 2 knockouts were as soft as you can get. I havent seen the first two of his 4 concussions but his 3rd one was such a small hit and he had 3 months off with talk he may never return. Add to that on the weekend, another light hit KO's him. I would amend our offer to 2yrs with the option to keep renewing it year by year after that. Pretty certain Brisbane would be packing his bags now if they could. But they have only offered him 2 years, so like what I want to offer him, it wouldnt be a massive risk on 2 years.

And if he decides our 2 years isnt worth changing clubs, I wouldnt lose any sleep over it.
 
There would be many players in the league that would love 900k x 6. Until they realise that it is at a 1 win club on the other side of the country. With a heap of development and hard work ahead to get back into finals contention.

We are not an easy sell at this point in time. Have to be realists. Still ok with Starcevich but 6 years is now a bit too much (yesterday was a jarring reminder of his “fragility” re head knocks). Get Dev cheaply. And keep going re the draft. If we can acquire any non WA returning players via trade, great, but my fear is right now, that’s all who we can attract - those wanting to come home.
With some players money is more important. Must be plenty of players that would jump at 900K and to play with Harley, or to be one of the players to lift us back up the ladder. Look at Ablett junior. Went to Gold coast who were basket cases on some massive deal, where he couldve stayed with Geelong and played finals every year.
 
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