List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

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  Wt

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  Career

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  M

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  T

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  G

  1.0

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  D

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  K

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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[beagles]

I’m wondering whether you guys will use pick two to bid on every highly rated academy kid.

Would be quite nice if those ****ers had to pay full tote on all of them.

It would be a statement to bid on all of the academy and father son's in one go, yes including Toby Whan.

We might get the first round going to the late 30's. Last selection of round 1 is pick 38...no make that pick 39

Could only see that happening if the AFL denied any assistance and we cracked the proverbial.

 

[Godfather32]

If he worked in recruitment or drafting for the club in any capacity and was simultaneously posting on BigFooty, he bloody well should have been fired too. Having said that, I highly doubt he was.

Bond is one I actually believe was part of the recruitment team. He gave absolutely nothing away most of the time anyway.
I think Phil's Dad might have been a recruiter of some sort as well, he has a lot of posting history back in the day about genuine sounding stuff before he became the whore island meme we came to know (and love/hate).
I just don't think he was the big shot he made himself out to be, giving Nesbitt a blood nose, hurling Clarke out of negotiations on his arse or singlehandedly saving our draft after round one.
Probably had some very minor role if he ever did work for the club.

 

[Lach72]

It would be a statement to bid on all of the academy and father son's in one go, yes including Toby Whan.

We might get the first round going to the late 30's. Last selection of round 1 is pick 38...no make that pick 39

Could only see that happening if the AFL denied any assistance and we cracked the proverbial.

Knock yourself out bidding on Whan at 2. But Uwland, Annable, and Patterson? That’d be good for everyone outside of Queensland

 

[beagles]

What is CDT elite at exactly?

He is over 200cm with speed, good below his knee's, quick hand and a great kick. It why most commentators talk about his as a traditional midfield.

He and Duursma will be picks 1 & 2. It just who holds those pick that is yet to be determined.

 

[beagles]

Knock yourself out bidding on Whan at 2. But Uwland, Annable, and Patterson? That’d be good for everyone outside of Queensland

No it would be around pick 14 after the other bids

 

[beagles]

No it would be around pick 14 after the other bidsCLUB-TIED PLAYERS (10):

Rookieme has 10 in the top 30

Brisbane: Daniel Annable (5)
Carlton: Harry Dean (7), Jack Ison (30)
Collingwood: Zac McCarthy (27)
Essendon: Adam Sweid (25)
Gold Coast: Zeke Uwland (2), Dylan Patterson (4), Beau Addinsall (21)
Sydney: Max King (17), Lachlan Carmichael (26)

 

[TOA.]

Bond is one I actually believe was part of the recruitment team. He gave absolutely nothing away most of the time anyway.
I think Phil's Dad might have been a recruiter of some sort as well, he has a lot of posting history back in the day about genuine sounding stuff before he became the whore island meme we came to know (and love/hate).
I just don't think he was the big shot he made himself out to be, giving Nesbitt a blood nose, hurling Clarke out of negotiations on his arse or singlehandedly saving our draft after round one.
Probably had some very minor role if he ever did work for the club.

Bond gave so little away (if anything at all) - i doubted he worked for the club but i guess if someone did work at the club and post on Bigfooty i would hope he would give nothing away.

Phil definitely had some inside knowledge. However, if a bloke who was retiring had one leg in a thai "bar" whilst also stepping for Clarke to finalise trade negotations at Pyke's request, then this club is in a worse state than i thought (and my god i hold the club to a low bar atm).

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I can't believe there is even a debate.

Duursma looks to be clearly the best available talent in the open pool.
Pick 1 - WD and move on.


this was posted by Yoda_ in the drafts forum

Bit of ranking update, from some of the best minds in the draft space. Our own eDPS, Haggas, Smythe, ESPN, Cal Twomey, Craft of the Draft and the new Reading the Play which is a breath of fresh air and somewhat against the norm.

Pick Average;
the ranking total divided by the amount of selections
eg. Duursma was selected 8 times, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 4 = 13
13 draft points divided by amount of sections (8 rankings used)
13 / 8 =1.625 1.625

High Pick
self explanatory really. The highest they were taken. Gives an idea of how widely viewed some players were.

Low Pick
Opposite to the 'high pick', good to see how low some rated these players.

The players listed below are sorted on this metric. All players were viewed in two rankings across the 8. Some of these selections are skewed by being out of date (ie. Craft of the Draft still had Sullivan Robey at 28, the last update from them was 3 weeks ago)

Also gives a reasonable enough view of where the groups sit

Ranking	Name	Pick Average	High Pick	Low Pick
1	Willem Duursma	1.625	1	4
2	Zeke Uwland	2.25	2	3
3	Daniel Annable	4	2	5
4	Dyson Sharp	5	1	9
5	Cooper Duff - Tytler	5.125	3	7
6	Dylan Patterson	5.5	4	10
7	Sam Cumming	8.25	6	15
8	Oliver Greaves	9.75	7	16
9	Harry Dean	10.125	6	15
10	Sullivan Robey	10.75	4	28
11	Xavier Taylor	11	7	14
12	Sam Grjl	11.5	5	15
13	Josh Lindsay	12.5	10	17
14	Aiden Schubert	12.875	9	18
15	Mitch Marsh	14.25	11	18
16	Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves	14.625	9	25
17	Jacob Farrow	15.5	12	17
18	Lachy Dovaston	17.375	15	22
19	Jeevan Phillipou	18.5	12	24
20	Adam Sweid	22	20	32
21	Max King	22.5	20	25
22	Cameron Nairm	23.375	24	47
23	Harley Barker	23.5	18	27
24	Archie Ludowyke	23.75	21	31
25	Oskar Taylor	24.25	16	34
26	Lachlan Carmichael	24.4	20	29
27	Beau Addinsal	26.25	24	32
28	Louie Emmet	27	23	32
29	Matt Leray	28.5	22	34
30	Zac McCarthy	30.166	24	36
31	Fred Rodriguez	30.5	23	39
32	Sam Swaddling	32	19	48
33	Blake Oudshorn-Benier	32.166	23	43
34	Jack Dalton	32.857	14	41
35	Hussein El-Achkar	33	28	42
36	Kye Fincher	34.166	27	41
37	Max Kondogiannis	35.333	30	39
38	Toby Whan	36	31	49
39	Talor Byrne	36.166	32	40
40	Thomas Burton	36.25	29	40
41	Riley Onley	36.5	30	48
42	Jack Ison	38	25	46
43	Jesse Mellor	38.166	34	42
44	Koby Koulson	38.333	35	42
45	Hugo Mikunda	38.5	32	45
46	Thomas McGuane	40.5	37	44
47	Liam Hetherton	42.25	38	48
48	Noah Chamberlain	47	45	49
49	Cody Curtain	47.5	46	49

This kind of system is what the AFL should ask all list managers to do anonymously, to get an idea on the average ranking for all of the NGA and FS. This would then take out the need for clubs to bid. Have it down prior to trade period so that for example gold coast know they need the points for pick 2. We don't have to bid on them, and it stop teams making nudge nudge wink wink deals to not bid on them.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Bond is one I actually believe was part of the recruitment team. He gave absolutely nothing away most of the time anyway.
I think Phil's Dad might have been a recruiter of some sort as well, he has a lot of posting history back in the day about genuine sounding stuff before he became the whore island meme we came to know (and love/hate).
I just don't think he was the big shot he made himself out to be, giving Nesbitt a blood nose, hurling Clarke out of negotiations on his arse or singlehandedly saving our draft after round one.
Probably had some very minor role if he ever did work for the club.

Fair enough mate...I hadn't been lurking around long enough to know anything about Phil beyond his whore island phase and you're more than entitled to your view on things. Me personally, I just find it difficult to believe that anyone working for the club would be posting anything here...even if not giving away much.

A very close friend of mine was lucky enough to be taken on by the club as an intern during the 2018 season, he's a photographer. Said that during the vetting process there was a very clear part of it that basically said if you are active on BigFooty then we are not taking you on. It was very black and white...so I know the club is aware of potential leaking on this forum and make it clear to anyone they allow within the four walls that they will not tolerate anyone posting here.

That being said, I don't see it as likely that anyone with important, club shaping roles like recruitment or drafting would be on here. Lurking? Who knows. But posting? I don't believe it

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

It would be a statement to bid on all of the academy and father son's in one go, yes including Toby Whan.

We might get the first round going to the late 30's. Last selection of round 1 is pick 38...no make that pick 39

Could only see that happening if the AFL denied any assistance and we cracked the proverbial.

I wouldn’t bid on Whan with pick 1 on day 2

 

[Hasselhough]

McVee to Freo

11,29 for F1, McVee.

Melbourne's F1 could be a top 3 pick .

They would be crazy considering they probably get a 1st for petracca

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I guess that simple answer would be to use it in one of our other trades if we have to because we can't find another player.

It's not like it's worthless or anything. Could always just trade it for future picks in next years draft at a worst case.


Ryan + Priority pick for 7?

I dunno.

Can you do that, i.e. include it in a trade that has only pick(s) coming back, if you are supposed to use it to recruit a player? I guess the answer would be in he fine print if we do get given a pick.

 

[Pottering]

Starcevich is now on the Paddy McCartin level of concussion. His last 2 knockouts were as soft as you can get. I havent seen the first two of his 4 concussions but his 3rd one was such a small hit and he had 3 months off with talk he may never return. Add to that on the weekend, another light hit KO's him. I would amend our offer to 2yrs with the option to keep renewing it year by year after that. Pretty certain Brisbane would be packing his bags now if they could. But they have only offered him 2 years, so like what I want to offer him, it wouldnt be a massive risk on 2 years.

And if he decides our 2 years isnt worth changing clubs, I wouldnt lose any sleep over it.

Can't see what our fervour is for getting Starcevich. We're overloaded with mid sized defenders, that's miles off the positions we truly need filling. Plus his concussion issues are a huge red flag.

 

[Goroyals22]

Can't see what our fervour is for getting Starcevich. We're overloaded with mid sized defenders, that's miles off the positions we truly need filling. Plus his concussion issues are a huge red flag.

We might be overloaded., it’s just they aren’t very good

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

I just don't think he was the big shot he made himself out to be, giving Nesbitt a blood nose, hurling Clarke out of negotiations on his arse or singlehandedly saving our draft after round one.

Lol. Did he actually say that shit?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Lol. Did he actually say that shit?

Oh yes. And more!

 

[Hasselhough]

Bontempelli was an outside midfielder who also played HBF. He wasn't a HBF'er and neither is Duursma.

Duursma is not a ball winning mid .
Sure he played a bit inside during the year but was timid and not clean in close .
You would never use him in that role anyway . But he is most definitely played a lot at HBF

 

[eaglevision]

Melbourne's F1 could be a top 3 pick .

They would be crazy considering they probably get a 1st for petracca

Look at their recent trading history and how they value F1s.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Oh yes. And more!

Gee. I called him out for saying he knew we were keen on Busslinger.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Oh yes. And more!

And one important part of it was bullshit, the part that has perpetuated the narrative that Clarke ****ed things up, and Pyke was the saviour.

 

[Hasselhough]

I guess that simple answer would be to use it in one of our other trades if we have to because we can't find another player.

It's not like it's worthless or anything. Could always just trade it for future picks in next years draft at a worst case.


Ryan + Priority pick for 7?

I dunno.

The afl learned their lesson when they gave North picks that had to be used in a trade for a player . They lost value due to the restrictions

 

[bzparkes]

Duursma is not a ball winning mid .
Sure he played a bit inside during the year but was timid and not clean in close .
You would never use him in that role anyway . But he is most definitely played a lot at HBF

But that's my point. Bontempelli's knock pre-draft was that he was too outside. He wasn't a 'ball-winning' mid either.

Not sure if we're watching the same player but I've seen Duursma plenty of times go into packs to try and win the ball. Almost lost the game he played for Casey in the VFL against Brisbane because he got pinged for diving on the ball(which was a harsh call) just before the siren, in an attempt to get possession and clear defence. Luckily for him, the Lions player missed the shot after the siren.

 

[WCErevival]

Fair enough mate...I hadn't been lurking around long enough to know anything about Phil beyond his whore island phase and you're more than entitled to your view on things. Me personally, I just find it difficult to believe that anyone working for the club would be posting anything here...even if not giving away much.

A very close friend of mine was lucky enough to be taken on by the club as an intern during the 2018 season, he's a photographer. Said that during the vetting process there was a very clear part of it that basically said if you are active on BigFooty then we are not taking you on. It was very black and white...so I know the club is aware of potential leaking on this forum and make it clear to anyone they allow within the four walls that they will not tolerate anyone posting here.

That being said, I don't see it as likely that anyone with important, club shaping roles like recruitment or drafting would be on here. Lurking? Who knows. But posting? I don't believe it

Can people name all these guys in the picture? I thought Phil said he was one of them

 

[Hasselhough]

Knock yourself out bidding on Whan at 2. But Uwland, Annable, and Patterson? That’d be good for everyone outside of Queensland

If we trade and make deals with GC and Brisbane it would be in our interest to not bid for better deals

 

[Boohemian]

This is Phil