List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[twce13]

cant say im a fan of the cripps extension.
probably be at the expense of someone like newton or chess, which id rather give another year too.

 

[jdisc]

This is such an enjoyable thread to read...... So pleased to be reading about trades done years ago that can't be undone, but no lets have page after page explaining why the tarde was bad, why its screwed the club, why it was right at the time bla bla bla, all in a thread that I believe is supposed to be about contracts, trades and the draft........

Actually the trade was bad if you take those picks and use them exclusively on players that we now know with hindsight turn out to be really good

I am very intelligent

 

[Tugboat1]

Just wanted to get peoples thoughts on if we get pick 2 in the Allen compo, rather than splitting, they should be selecting players tied to clubs through father son or academy players.

Could match on Zeke Uwland from Gold Coast with them handing over 8, 11, 18.

And match on Dan Annable from Brisbane and have them hand over 17, 37 and whatever else they need to make up the points for that bid.

With our picks moving down to 2 and 4 and all the other picks moving back we would be ending up with picks 2, 4, 10, 13, 16, 19, 20, 39

And whatever else Brisbane need to match the bid.

 

[illegaleagle]

Just wanted to get peoples thoughts on if we get pick 2 in the Allen compo, rather than splitting, they should be selecting players tied to clubs through father son or academy players.

Could match on Zeke Uwland from Gold Coast with them handing over 8, 11, 18.

And match on Dan Annable from Brisbane and have them hand over 17, 37 and whatever else they need to make up the points for that bid.

With our picks moving down to 2 and 4 and all the other picks moving back we would be ending up with picks 2, 4, 10, 13, 16, 19, 20, 39

And whatever else Brisbane need to match the bid.

I would bid on Uwland then Patterson, may mean gold coast don't have the points for Patterson which would be a good addition with a guy like Sharp for pick 2 and even then if they manage get the points would completely take them out of the draft. cant see us bidding on Annable if it means that we get pick 2 for Allan and a cheap deal on say starcevich for a 3rd rounder or something n the promise we don't bid on Annable in the first 2 picks.

 

[plays tall 1]

Actually the trade was bad if you take those picks and use them exclusively on players that we now know with hindsight turn out to be really good

I am very intelligent

So, by your logic, no trade in which draft picks are handed over for a player can ever be criticised because we don’t know which players we would have selected with the draft picks? As I said, plenty on this board criticised the trade at the time it was made so it’s not a matter of hindsight. Let’s move on.

 

[Tugboat1]

I would bid on Uwland then Patterson, may mean gold coast don't have the points for Patterson which would be a good addition with a guy like Sharp for pick 2 and even then if they manage get the points would completely take them out of the draft. cant see us bidding on Annable if it means that we get pick 2 for Allan and a cheap deal on say starcevich for a 3rd rounder or something n the promise we don't bid on Annable in the first 2 picks.

Yea not a bad point, but I would be abit worried about Gold Coast just going Into draft deficit and we end up with no return.

Could potentially offer Brisbane pick 14 to help them get the points for the Annable bid with the knowledge it will be coming back to us along with pick 17 and 37

 

[jakson68]

We give up Pick 2 so next year we play Waterman, Reid, Shanahan and Walter in the forward line?

We still have no ruck or mids to kick it to them, but yeah...............

There is talk over here regarding three Pies players (with WA links) that WC may be into.
What value for all of Darcy Cameron, Bobby Hill and Ed Allen?

Would hate to lose any, or all of them but in this day and age, if a player wants out, clubs find a way to facilitate it.

 

[jdisc]

There is talk over here regarding three Pies players (with WA links) that WC may be into.
What value for all of Darcy Cameron, Bobby Hill and Ed Allen?

Would hate to lose any, or all of them but in this day and age, if a player wants out, clubs find a way to facilitate it.

pick 19 and Harry Barnett take it or leave it

 

[jakson68]

pick 19 and Harry Barnett take it or leave it

No clue who Harry Barnett is, so its a no from me .

 

[Mr Q]

There is talk over here regarding three Pies players (with WA links) that WC may be into.
What value for all of Darcy Cameron, Bobby Hill and Ed Allen?

Would hate to lose any, or all of them but in this day and age, if a player wants out, clubs find a way to facilitate it.

It's sounding a lot like whoever might take Hill off Collingwood's hands is doing the Maggies a favour. So probably less than what you might want to hear.

 

[illegaleagle]

Yea not a bad point, but I would be abit worried about Gold Coast just going Into draft deficit and we end up with no return.

Could potentially offer Brisbane pick 14 to help them get the points for the Annable bid with the knowledge it will be coming back to us along with pick 17 and 37

I imagine behind the scenes we are doing deals with both clubs for them to ensure we don't bid on any of their 3 players in the first 2 picks which is critical for them especially. With Brisbane Allan for pick 2 is beneficial to us and a cheap Starcevich and possibly pick swaps. Then with Gold Coast a cheap Davies, or even a Walter and pick swaps. We have to be ruthless this offseason no point being nice guys and not bidding and not getting anything in return.

 

[UseR2006]

The problem with bidding on players, and why most clubs avoid it is you may end up with a player that doesn't want to be here and asks for a trade JHF style within the first year or two.
It's especially a concern if we are still going to be bad for a few years.

Could you imagine we bid on Patterson, Uwland and they ask for a trade within year 1-2? The AFL would rightfully mock us into oblivion for bidding on a player that didn't want to be here.

 

[Dark Sharks]

We give up Pick 2 so next year we play Waterman, Reid, Shanahan and Walter in the forward line?

We still have no ruck or mids to kick it to them, but yeah...............

Nobody has suggested this, because nobody other than McQualter actually wants Archer Reid in the forward line.

Reid needs to be immediately shifted to defense, or we bite the bullet and commit to him as a ruckman. Pick 2 is too much for D.Cameron and he's about the only ruckman that's "on the market" right now, so pointing out our lack of ruckman for next season is irrelevant.

As far as Walter goes, he's set and forget for 10 years. You'd take what we've seen in his first 2 seasons at AFL over the gamble of pick 2 in this shit draft for sure. Aggressive big bodied forward who attacks the ball in the air and crunches packs, with loads of development left

 

[Deepthroat]

Pick 2 is too much for D.Cameron and he's about the only ruckman that's "on the market" right now, so pointing out our lack of ruckman for next season is irrelevant.

Not if 2 gets you CDT.

 

[illegaleagle]

No clue who Harry Barnett is, so its a no from me .

We don't know who Barnett is either haven't seen him play

 

[Farmer Lister]

It's irrelevant who THEY PICKED UP.

Its relevant who we could have picked up. There was plenty of talent for us to pick up and develop players with the picks we traded for Kelly.
4 picks .... 4 players for 1.

We didn't enter the draft in 2019 until pick 49 Callum Jamieson and in 2020 pick 52 Luke Edwards.

Yeah. Tell me again how it was a good decision.

It doesn't matter. It has already happened. What's the point of constantly rehashing the past. It's up to you, but personally I'd rather focus on the future with a positive outlook. Your call.

 

[bzparkes]

We give up Pick 2 so next year we play Waterman, Reid, Shanahan and Walter in the forward line?

We still have no ruck or mids to kick it to them, but yeah...............

No, we play the best of the in the forward line and the others get to develop in the WAFL and push for selection, like a normal team.

 

[bzparkes]

No clue who Harry Barnett is, so its a no from me .

Damn, nearly got him

 

[Dark Sharks]

Not if 2 gets you CDT.

I'd take Walter over CDT by the length of the Flemington straight.

Lots of question marks around CDT. Particularly as a ruckman. So you'd be drafting that beatnik as a 2nd ruck/forward? Over an actual power forward in Walter?

 

[jdisc]

No clue who Harry Barnett is, so its a no from me

you dont know who pick 19 is going to be either so what's the difference

 

[illegaleagle]

The problem with bidding on players, and why most clubs avoid it is you may end up with a player that doesn't want to be here and asks for a trade JHF style within the first year or two.
It's especially a concern if we are still going to be bad for a few years.

Could you imagine we bid on Patterson, Uwland and they ask for a trade within year 1-2? The AFL would rightfully mock us into oblivion for bidding on a player that didn't want to be here.

That would just be like any player that gets picked to play in a different state to where they live. Even then you back the club in to get the player to stay like Harley. Regarding the Gold Coast then if they desperate to get back there after a year or they pay a few first rounders etc, you cant be scared of picking a guy because they may go home in future when have the eagles lost anyone after 1 or 2 years in the time they have been in the competition.

 

[Mr Q]

Just wanted to get peoples thoughts on if we get pick 2 in the Allen compo, rather than splitting, they should be selecting players tied to clubs through father son or academy players.

Could match on Zeke Uwland from Gold Coast with them handing over 8, 11, 18.

And match on Dan Annable from Brisbane and have them hand over 17, 37 and whatever else they need to make up the points for that bid.

With our picks moving down to 2 and 4 and all the other picks moving back we would be ending up with picks 2, 4, 10, 13, 16, 19, 20, 39

And whatever else Brisbane need to match the bid.

That's not how the pick matching works though - the picks that are used to make up the points simply evaporate (and any leftover points are recreated as a pick late in the draft). We bid on Uwland, GC pay up in picks, but we don't get them - they're just gone.

What we'd get is our pick officially pushed back a pick (and our later picks along with everyone else's move up) - but it's not a huge thing, as we've still got exactly the same pool of players to select from as if we didn't bid.

The main benefit for us is that we can bid - and can take that into trade week, and use it as a bit of leverage: "If you do this, we won't bid etc". And see if they think that's worth it.

 

[eagles rule]

Gold Coast have a few schmick forwards but I cant really see a world where West Coast satisfies them with a decent trade? Between Snake, Shanahan, A.Reid and the potential of Champion/ Brockman we're pretty ok up forward?

Unless there's an uncontracted superstar wearing red and yellow who wants a lick of the spoon?

I don’t think Rosas would cost a lot …

 

[Barrybran]

No issues with this. Cripps hasn't been as bad as many people claim he has been and he has outperformed the guy who was supposed to make him redundant. Hopefully he starts next season in the WAFL but a 1-year extension is reasonable in the circumstances.

 

[Weshi]

Dev would be one of the first ten magnets on our whiteboard every week this year.

WAFL?