List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

[Keys]

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[eaglevision]

So as a club we really may not be able to trade up for a higher pick than the hawks one. We may be able to trade our second and hawks second for a late first however.

We can trade up our 2/3R draft capital for an high pick and go into a 2/3R points deficit next year for what we need to match. Next year we use our 1R then take Kenh, McGlade and HBanfield with points and again, no issue taking a deficit into the Tassie affected 2027 draft.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Chris Scott already said Geelong are not opposed to having "dangerous" conversations when recruiting players.

Even mentioned people criticising them for it. Thats a conversation on BF getting more airtime. Geelong not afraid of trading in players with drug issues. At the same time the Eagles would never consider that as an option. Media would go to town if the Eagles traded in a player with drug issues. Yet other clubs it doesnt even rate a mention.

To be fair Geelong also got a massive free pass with no media scrutiny when it turned out their greatest coach of all time had a raging drug problem.

They have afl house and the media in their back pocket

 

[WCEswift]

Just on our NGA's

I can see Walley being bid on between 20-40 (I think more towards the top end than the bottom) depending on his year. Evans if he has a good year through the midfield is also around that range (potentially even higher). Banfield is a touch vanilla (his younger brother Harper looks a better prospect) so may be a late bid or straight through to cat B. At this stage I don't think Onley gets bid on and not sure I want to pick him up.

So as a club we really may not be able to trade up for a higher pick than the hawks one. We may be able to trade our second and hawks second for a late first however.

In the open pool I only see about 30 players with quality draftable attributes that don't have a deficiency in their game that makes them potentially undraftable. So many players with poor skills this year and along with ball winning ability it's the clubs biggest need. Clean off the ground and skilled with ball in hand.

Based off the last few sentences rodriguez is a premium in this draft?

 

[Keys]

Just on our NGA's

I can see Walley being bid on between 20-40 (I think more towards the top end than the bottom) depending on his year. Evans if he has a good year through the midfield is also around that range (potentially even higher). Banfield is a touch vanilla (his younger brother Harper looks a better prospect) so may be a late bid or straight through to cat B. At this stage I don't think Onley gets bid on and not sure I want to pick him up.

So as a club we really may not be able to trade up for a higher pick than the hawks one. We may be able to trade our second and hawks second for a late first however.

In the open pool I only see about 30 players with quality draftable attributes that don't have a deficiency in their game that makes them potentially undraftable. So many players with poor skills this year and along with ball winning ability it's the clubs biggest need. Clean off the ground and skilled with ball in hand.

Couple of things

1) Charlie Banfield is a F/S not a NGA so not eligible as a Cat B. If no bids come we could take him with our last pick in the draft like we did with Waterman or hold over to the rookie draft to take him with our first pick there
2) Who’s Onley? I know Jake Caton and Tylah Williams are other NGAs we might hold interest in, but I’ve missed any mention of an Onley

 

[CountryLad]

Couple of things

1) Charlie Banfield is a F/S not a NGA so not eligible as a Cat B. If no bids come we could take him with our last pick in the draft like we did with Waterman or hold over to the rookie draft to take him with our first pick there
2) Who’s Onley? I know Jake Caton and Tylah Williams are other NGAs we might hold interest in, but I’ve missed any mention of an Onley

Riley Onley plays for the Bushrangers/vic country. Rated as a first round prospect but I’m not sure how he fits into what Phil was talking about.

 

[Truly Lazuli]

Just on our NGA's

I can see Walley being bid on between 20-40 (I think more towards the top end than the bottom) depending on his year. Evans if he has a good year through the midfield is also around that range (potentially even higher). Banfield is a touch vanilla (his younger brother Harper looks a better prospect) so may be a late bid or straight through to cat B. At this stage I don't think Onley gets bid on and not sure I want to pick him up.

So as a club we really may not be able to trade up for a higher pick than the hawks one. We may be able to trade our second and hawks second for a late first however.

In the open pool I only see about 30 players with quality draftable attributes that don't have a deficiency in their game that makes them potentially undraftable. So many players with poor skills this year and along with ball winning ability it's the clubs biggest need. Clean off the ground and skilled with ball in hand.

So it's Onley the lonely?

 

[suntagonal]

Riley Onley plays for the Bushrangers/vic country. Rated as a first round prospect but I’m not sure how he fits into what Phil was talking about.

One too many Bintangs

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I can’t tell you how to view the draftees but if Dyson gets to pick 6-7 that club will have the biggest steal of the draft in the last decade.

I didn’t even mention Grlj.

Being number one 12 months out from the draft does not automatically anoint you at the number 1 draft pick.

Many prospects have already made considerable ground closing the gap with Sharp, and he hasn’t shown much growth or development.

If it’s Sharp v the field for number 1, I’m taking the field.

 

[Wce17]

Just on our NGA's

I can see Walley being bid on between 20-40 (I think more towards the top end than the bottom) depending on his year. Evans if he has a good year through the midfield is also around that range (potentially even higher). Banfield is a touch vanilla (his younger brother Harper looks a better prospect) so may be a late bid or straight through to cat B. At this stage I don't think Onley gets bid on and not sure I want to pick him up.

So as a club we really may not be able to trade up for a higher pick than the hawks one. We may be able to trade our second and hawks second for a late first however.

In the open pool I only see about 30 players with quality draftable attributes that don't have a deficiency in their game that makes them potentially undraftable. So many players with poor skills this year and along with ball winning ability it's the clubs biggest need. Clean off the ground and skilled with ball in hand.

Any thoughts on the other NGA’s Caton & Williams & what range they could go?

Also I was impressed with Oscar Hine-Baston the weekend. Draftable?

 

[Monocle]

One too many Bintangs

More likely to be drinking San Miguel’s .

 

[WCE777]

Just on our NGA's

I can see Walley being bid on between 20-40 (I think more towards the top end than the bottom) depending on his year. Evans if he has a good year through the midfield is also around that range (potentially even higher). Banfield is a touch vanilla (his younger brother Harper looks a better prospect) so may be a late bid or straight through to cat B. At this stage I don't think Onley gets bid on and not sure I want to pick him up.

So as a club we really may not be able to trade up for a higher pick than the hawks one. We may be able to trade our second and hawks second for a late first however.

In the open pool I only see about 30 players with quality draftable attributes that don't have a deficiency in their game that makes them potentially undraftable. So many players with poor skills this year and along with ball winning ability it's the clubs biggest need. Clean off the ground and skilled with ball in hand.

So 3 NGA to draft.
Really only leaves a couple of scenarios to play out, Warner coming or staying, Oscar staying or going.

The draftable players maybe are Curtin if Oscar goes to replace him as a KP player who maybe suited too Ruck/Fwd.

If Warner stays for another 2 years we will be left with our 1st pick(2), FA compensation for Oscar pick 3, Hawks 1st(15) for Curtin and maybe something around our second round pick 20.

2, 3(OA), 15(Curtin), 20 and 3 NGA players probably taking up our picks 33 & 51 and something else like a future 3rd pick minimum.

Sort of leads to the question are we better to take a swing at Z Reid as a future KDEF option as a late 2nd early 3rd round pick through trade or where would you see his value if a possible candidate for our KDEF holes?

Leaving really if we trade in Z Reid we really are going after Curtin for Oscar and 2 top mids with whatever picks we have 2, 3, 15 whichever is the pick left after Curtin, definitely not using pick 2 or 3 on Curtin imo.

Doesn't leave much in the way of elite mids in the open draft, Sharp/Rodriguez/Cumming/Greeves is the top lot probably?

 

[larrikin]

Just on our NGA's

I can see Walley being bid on between 20-40 (I think more towards the top end than the bottom) depending on his year. Evans if he has a good year through the midfield is also around that range (potentially even higher). Banfield is a touch vanilla (his younger brother Harper looks a better prospect) so may be a late bid or straight through to cat B. At this stage I don't think Onley gets bid on and not sure I want to pick him up.

So as a club we really may not be able to trade up for a higher pick than the hawks one. We may be able to trade our second and hawks second for a late first however.

In the open pool I only see about 30 players with quality draftable attributes that don't have a deficiency in their game that makes them potentially undraftable. So many players with poor skills this year and along with ball winning ability it's the clubs biggest need. Clean off the ground and skilled with ball in hand.

Aren't the NGA bidding rules still the same as last year at this stage? So we can't bid on any under 40?

I know there's been speculation of change but I didn't think that had happened and they are now saying not likely for this draft? Or have I missed something?

 

[eaglevision]

I didn’t even mention Grlj.

Being number one 12 months out from the draft does not automatically anoint you at the number 1 draft pick.

Many prospects have already made considerable ground closing the gap with Sharp, and he hasn’t shown much growth or development.

If it’s Sharp v the field for number 1, I’m taking the field.

Not sure where Grlj comes into it. The field sure, but that’s not what you said. You said 5-6 players so it’s Dyson going before pick 5-6 vs the field, in which case I’ll take Dyson.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Every time I read Kuol Mun's name I think of Liam Gallagher...

"Kuol mun, fookin biblical...Me broother's a little sausage"

 

[uncleoatmeal]

Onley's disposal is woeful, wouldnt touch him with a ten foot pole (at least by foot)

 

[Keys]

Aren't the NGA bidding rules still the same as last year at this stage? So we can't bid on any under 40?

I know there's been speculation of change but I didn't think that had happened and they are now saying not likely for this draft? Or have I missed something?

You’ve missed something

NGA bids can be matched at any point in the draft. The restriction on matching below pick 40 was removed in last year’s draft which is how Essendon were able to match an early bid on Kako for example

The change in this year’s draft is the revision of the points index and a 10% discount in lieu of the 20% it was previously. Bids will be harder to match this year

 

[Scotland]

NGA rules are a which way is the wind blowing proposition.

 

[eaglevision]

Onley's disposal is woeful, wouldnt touch him with a ten foot pole (at least by foot)

If Grlj and Cumming were the two I thought were incredibly underrated at the start of the year, Onley is the one to me that seems incredibly overrated.

 

[dinnaz]

Anyone wanting Zac Reid actually watch him play or just because it's Archers brother you're keen?

I've had him in my SC team all year so most weeks watch him closely and he's far from amazing. Been torched a few times.

Also not somebody bombers are going to let go easily, after carrying him through injuries all last year and being a former top 10 pick.

Leave him and chase Lewis Hayes

 

[uncleoatmeal]

If Grlj and Cumming were the two I thought were incredibly underrated at the start of the year, Onley is the one to me that seems incredibly overrated.

Really like what ive seen so far from Grlj

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Not sure where Grlj comes into it. The field sure, but that’s not what you said. You said 5-6 players so it’s Dyson going before pick 5-6 vs the field, in which case I’ll take Dyson.

Based on current draft order it’s not hard to imagine Sharp getting to 6, and were only in April with plasters still emerging.

Pick 1 WC Duursma
Pick 2 GCS Uwland (matched bid by WC)
Pick 3 WC Curtin
Pick 4 BL Annable (matched bid by RFC)
Pick 5 RFC Rodriguez

The above scenario isn hard to imagine. Things are far less set than what people believe.

 

[larrikin]

You’ve missed something

NGA bids can be matched at any point in the draft. The restriction on matching below pick 40 was removed in last year’s draft which is how Essendon were able to match an early bid on Kako for example

The change in this year’s draft is the revision of the points index and a 10% discount in lieu of the 20% it was previously. Bids will be harder to match this year

Ah right, so Collard to the Saints was the last pick that got ****ed over by that rule then?

Excellent

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Based on current draft order it’s not hard to imagine Sharp getting to 6, and were only in April with plasters still emerging.

Pick 1 WC Duursma
Pick 2 GCS Uwland (matched bid by WC)
Pick 3 WC Curtin
Pick 4 BL Annable (matched bid by RFC)
Pick 5 RFC Rodriguez

The above scenario isn hard to imagine. Things are far less set than what people believe.

For me looking at our list the best midfielders for us

Frederick Rodriguez
Josh Lindsay
Toby Whan
These 3 all elite with footskills,
Whan also happens to be best gut runner in this draft

Then lower options
Sam Grlj
Sam Swadling
Sam Cumming

Of those 3 Sam's Swadling has the highest ceiling and seems to rack up very big numbers so you know he can accumulate

 

[eaglevision]

Based on current draft order it’s not hard to imagine Sharp getting to 6, and were only in April with plasters still emerging.

Pick 1 WC Duursma
Pick 2 GCS Uwland (matched bid by WC)
Pick 3 WC Curtin
Pick 4 BL Annable (matched bid by RFC)
Pick 5 RFC Rodriguez

The above scenario isn hard to imagine. Things are far less set than what people believe.

I don’t think many people think the November draft order is set in April and Christ I hope we don’t take Duursma at pick 1 if we have it.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Onley's disposal is woeful, wouldnt touch him with a ten foot pole (at least by foot)

Colllingwood NGA.