List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Dom sheed pocket]

That may be the vision that was sold to him, but he would be very happy with the way JWilliams has progressed. So whether its OA or JW in the forward line with him I dont think he is going anywhere.

I’m not talking about just one list change though. We don’t let Oscar go in free agency if we think we are likely to rebound in the next couple of years.

I’m talking about the change in our position on Oscar being a symptom of a bigger change in thinking in terms of timelines and list strategy more broadly.

Let’s not forget that Waterman missed 2018 and probably wants individual and team success.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I might be wrong but footy boards are for posting opinions after all. I think there is a better than 50% chance that Allen ends up signing back on with us. I think the stories of monster offers from the top 4 clubs he wants to go to is all smoke and mirrors. I bet they are not offering any more than we are. And i think that when the moment for them to put their cards on the table to his management comes they will tell them that they are not prepared to trade for him, they only want him if he is coming for free. And the money they are offering is not enough for Band 1 which is not going to be good enough for us. So his management will come back to us, we will up the offer marginally as a sweetener and to smooth over the bad experience for him and he will sign back on.

 

[Elite Pete]

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Not really sure how you stay with your existing club after they don't match...

Happens in the NBA but the AFL world ain’t ready for that.

 

[Scotland]

Huge chance Allen stays. The real issue right now is whether 2023/24 Allen is coming back.

The predictable negativity around his injury history, how much he is worth to other clubs etc. is only in the media because he is a free agent that might move clubs in October. If a club comes to the party with a band 1 RFA offer he's more than likely out the door. If they don't then we don't want to lose him for pick 30, but also don't want him under contract long term if there are genuine concerns about how he will able to play. Hopefully as the season progresses he looks more like the player he was the last two years because right now he looks laboured.

 

[eaglevision]

I might be wrong but footy boards are for posting opinions after all. I think there is a better than 50% chance that Allen ends up signing back on with us. I think the stories of monster offers from the top 4 clubs he wants to go to is all smoke and mirrors. I bet they are not offering any more than we are. And i think that when the moment for them to put their cards on the table to his management comes they will tell them that they are not prepared to trade for him, they only want him if he is coming for free. And the money they are offering is not enough for Band 1 which is not going to be good enough for us. So his management will come back to us, we will up the offer marginally as a sweetener and to smooth over the bad experience for him and he will sign back on.

I agree with you in that I think it’s more likely Oscar extends with us on less money than leaves but as a KPF entering his prime years he will absolutely attract a band 1 offer from at least one other club. Brisbane, Melbourne, Hawthorn, Essendon, Sydney would be falling over themselves to get him at no player/draft cost if they can afford it.

An absolute priority this year should be to facilitate and manage Oscar’s exit with dignity to his club of choice.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

then he'll really put in

Personally, I'd like to retain Allen if possible (without overpaying) and would only consider letting him go if Band 1 confirmed.

He's playing like dogshite right now, but that's well below how he should and has been performing. Either he's struggling with an injury, form or the contract stuff has messed up his head.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Sure....Let's trade of one of the few guys in our side who is a beautiful field kick, quick, X factor, creative as well as chasing and tackling like a beast, for the first time in his career.

Sheesh

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Sure....Let's trade of one of the few guys in our side who is a beautiful field kick, quick, X factor, creative as well as chatting and tackling like a beast, fire the first time in his career.

Sheesh

We’re in a rebuild. No one over the age of 25 should be considered un tradeable for the right price, with the exception of Waterman.

Let’s say we were to trade Liam Ryan to GCS and we were able to get Powell out of it, do we do that deal?

Absolutely we do.

 

[oak79]

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Not really sure how you stay with your existing club after they don't match...

If your existing club has an offer that is close a player may decide to accept it rather than move - money isn't everything

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If your existing club has an offer that is close a player may decide to accept it rather than move - money isn't everything

Once the paperwork’s lodged there’s no option to “almost match” an offer, it’s either matched or it’s not.

 

[briztoon]

Why are you still here?

If WC match a free agency offer for Allen his options are exactly the same as any other uncontracted player. He can stay, request a trade or go into the draft.

It’s a free world. Well, at least Australia is relatively free.

 

[No Hassle Hough]

The only way a Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

trade makes sense, is if it is to Gold Coast and they pay above market value.

Pretty unlikely really, similar to the Bontempelli rumours.

 

[Donflicted]

The only way a Liam Ryan trade makes sense, is if it is to Gold Coast and they pay above market value.

Pretty unlikely really, similar to the Bontempelli rumours.

Please dont blast me

GCS have NGA players that they need to match points for and they also hold i believe a few first rounders with one being from Port you could aways trade Ryan to a team a second rounder which will be worth more this year due to the point index changing and package yours and the traded second to GCS for one of there first rounders?

Though i think Wes Walley is tied to you through NGA so that may pose an issue

 

[EdCurnowRules]

We’re in a rebuild. No one over the age of 25 should be considered un tradeable for the right price, with the exception of Waterman.

Let’s say we were to trade Liam Ryan to GCS and we were able to get Powell out of it, do we do that deal?

Absolutely we do.

Waterman is trade bait, top shelf trade bait. One big year last year and, sure, makes something from nothing a lot of the time, but otherwise has been just ok. Is also injured a fair bit (it feels like it). What is Watermans value to a side looking for a hard-working finisher?

 

[Elite Pete]

Ryan to GC makes sense if he is leaving. To me it’s probably their one position they have little depth and quality.

Ryan + ? (Draft pts) for Davies and Will Powell.

We pay a % of Ryans salary. Hid he is keen to leave, might as well do it now then get band 3 in 12 months time.

Powell - offer this man overs, they have that many of his type. Elite kick and great run off half back while also good defensively.

Alex Davies - not sure how we get him to come to the Eagles atm as he had Pies and Cats interested last year.

 

[Elite Pete]

Waterman is trade bait, top shelf trade bait. One big year last year and, sure, makes something from nothing a lot of the time, but otherwise has been just ok. Is also injured a fair bit (it feels like it). What is Watermans value to a side looking for a hard-working finisher?

Would’ve been band 1 if we didn’t sign him.

Can’t be letting this man go…..

 

[bzparkes]

Would’ve been band 1 if we didn’t sign him.

Can’t be letting this man go…..

He already had a contract, just re-negotiated it after last year's form.

 

[Elite Pete]

He already had a contract, just re-negotiated it after last year's form.

Yeah that contract was due to run out end of this year? So he would’ve been an UFA and got us band 1.

I’m happy with Waterman though

 

[hbk2015]

So few Mids seem available at the end of this year. Erasmus, Robertson, Hobbs, Tsatas. Then you have Parfitt and Constable in the wafl

 

[WCE_phil]

Ryan is potentially one we can potentially afford to lose. It would have to be for a very good pick even if it was the hawks pick + Ryan to get into the top 8 of the draft. Club likely needs to keep it's second rounders for Walley and Evans imo.

We have some real top tier looking small forward NGA's over the next 3 years.

Club also needs to potentially look at trialling Brockman off of HB at WAFL level. See if the ball coming at him works better as he has the skills but can't seem to generate enough of the ball to be effective at HF.

Rawlinson is a straight delist.

 

[Jed Clampet]

Ryan is potentially one we can potentially afford to lose. It would have to be for a very good pick even if it was the hawks pick + Ryan to get into the top 8 of the draft. Club likely needs to keep it's second rounders for Walley and Evans imo.

We have some real top tier looking small forward NGA's over the next 3 years.

Club also needs to potentially look at trialling Brockman off of HB at WAFL level. See if the ball coming at him works better as he has the skills but can't seem to generate enough of the ball to be effective at HF.

Rawlinson is a straight delist.

Agree trial Brockman off HB, has good disposal could be what he needs.

 

[Farang83150]

Not bothered if HR leaves now as long as we get a huge return, also if Ryan wants to go then pull the trigger i say.
Would like to see OA stay though.

 

[TerryFilk]

I’m in shock that anyone would actually want to keep Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

on a 5-6 year deal on what will be close to if not 1M a year. He can’t even train fully, he’s incredibly lazy on the field and we’ve got Shanahan, A.Reid and J.Williams as emerging key forwards + Waterman who’s better than Allen.

I get he’s the captain and blah blah blah, but I don’t think he’s a very good one. Pick 2 for Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

(it will be band 1, you all need to relax) is a god send and if we don’t take it, it’ll confirm the club has no idea.

 

[WCE_phil]

Tsatas is shit and can't kick. Junior game just doesn't translate to AFL. Also doesn't want to leave Victoria.

Hobbs is starting to come along alright and again didn't want to leave Victoria.

Robertson again looks to be in that in between space of too good for state league, not good enough to play his primary role at AFL level (He isn't versatile either)

Constable is very slow and lacked the desire to become the best he can be at AFL level on his first chance. He does have good skills however. He's priddis at the end of his career slow.

Erasmus is an interesting one, he is being held out of the Freo midfield and or HF and that's unlikely to change. Is a great athlete and can find the ball but is a poor kick and hasn't shown anything to suggest he can play midfield at the next level. But he could be a cheap option. He is certainly able to find it at WAFL level and he puts in as well defensively.

Parfitt I would say yes to if we had a second MSD pick and he made it there. I doubt he gets that far.

Kobe Ryan is still only 21 and is playing in a horrendously shit SANFL side and putting up good numbers. People question his disposal but disposal wasn't an issue as a junior. Playing for West Adelaide in the midfield and trying to show good skills is like playing for WCE midfield atm and trying to show good skills. Getting a lot of clearances and running both ways. I've kept a close eye on him as he was one of my favourites in his draft year. Was immature and a bit quirky. I think he's worth at least an interview to see if he's matured.

 

[Jandamarra]

Agree trial Brockman off HB, has good disposal could be what he needs.

Looked like Judd in the wafl