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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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I just don't get what the alleged motive would be.
Lets pretend Bond/Phil are fakes, why would they as random imposters, post as much as they have, for as long as they have (feels like over a decade), pretending to be some specific character?
Like what would they get out of that? Think of how much effort it would be to invent all these scenarios, some of which have been very detailed and open up risk for being exposed as a fraud.

I'm just curious about what the non-believer theory is based around. Curious also if you believe one but not the other.
Exactly, if Phil is a troll account whoever is posting deserves an award. I'd say deserves an Oscar if it wasn't an insult at this point. To me it's definitely weird that someone from club land would have a Bigfooty account [despite it having happened multiple times and been confirmed, Croad/McLachlan etc] but I cannot reconcile the fact that if he were fake that would take even rarer talents. Therefore I am a 90% believer and at the end of the day the content is solid so what does it matter.
 
Let’s put our trust in briztoon, who trashes us (fans and club) on other boards.
Where?

The trade board?

I had a crack at Obeanie1 there, and included all West Coasts fans in it once, and copped a whack here for that. That was last year after the draft.

As for West Coast the club, I haven't trashed your club. I've discussed it's current situation and potential road out, and pretty much stuck to the same message elsewhere as here.

If you're talking Oscar Allen specifically, I haven't said anything different that has been said by some of your own fans here. Certainly haven't posted anything there that could be construed as trashing your club.

And in some discussions I find myself defending WC largely because there are no WC posters around (other than bzparkes occasionally). I don't get involved in the negative posting sh!t about Harley Reid in that thread. That's the main thread where I'm supporting/defending West Coasts position.

Genuinely the worst thing I have said is that I don't believe West Coast has hit rock bottom yet, and we've already had that discussion here. And about a week later Phil in one of his State of West Coasts list posts said the same thing, and not one poster here pulled him up on it.
 

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I just don't get what the alleged motive would be.
Lets pretend Bond/Phil are fakes, why would they as random imposters, post as much as they have, for as long as they have (feels like over a decade), pretending to be some specific character?
Like what would they get out of that? Think of how much effort it would be to invent all these scenarios, some of which have been very detailed and open up risk for being exposed as a fraud.

I'm just curious about what the non-believer theory is based around. Curious also if you believe one but not the other.
Narcissistic behavior and the internet, name a more iconic duo.
 
I just don't get what the alleged motive would be.
Lets pretend Bond/Phil are fakes, why would they as random imposters, post as much as they have, for as long as they have (feels like over a decade), pretending to be some specific character?
Like what would they get out of that? Think of how much effort it would be to invent all these scenarios, some of which have been very detailed and open up risk for being exposed as a fraud.

I'm just curious about what the non-believer theory is based around. Curious also if you believe one but not the other.
Who is Bond? What's his go?
 
I just don't get what the alleged motive would be.
It comes from an insecurity.

I used to know a guy. A whole heap of families went on holiday. A few of us are in a spa talking to some random dude. This guy is telling this rando he owns a construction company and bigging himself up. I'm sitting there thinking, "but you know we all know you're lying".

He was a deeply insecure dude who had to lie all the time to cover his insufficiencies.
 
I just don't get what the alleged motive would be.
Lets pretend Bond/Phil are fakes, why would they as random imposters, post as much as they have, for as long as they have (feels like over a decade), pretending to be some specific character?
Like what would they get out of that? Think of how much effort it would be to invent all these scenarios, some of which have been very detailed and open up risk for being exposed as a fraud.

I'm just curious about what the non-believer theory is based around. Curious also if you believe one but not the other.
There are people who make up back stories about themselves to gain some cred or feeling of self worth.

In fact, when you think about it, it’s very common - a bit of gilding the lilly here and gilding the lilly there.
I guess taking on a fake persona is just going somewhat further.
So easy to do on the internet too.
 
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lol, as I said before, none of the heavy hitters here have ever questioned or called out Phil.
If Phil is well connected/employed by WCE then he should be able to answer one simple question.
W.T.F is Tim Gepps role at the club and why hasn't he been pensioned off. Nesbitt's mole ?
 
Are we really questioning whether people like to big note themselves on the internet? I’ve never been more surprised as a cowboy/astronaut/male model.
I feel like there's a difference between, stretching the truth to big note oneself (which most would believe Phil does to an extent - e.g. 8 commitments to WCE, but only one eventuated with a contract which wasn't his fault), and completely fabricating a persona for more than 10+ years on an online forum.

I get the point that your trying to make, but it rings a bit hollow when everyone on here already knows your an extraordinarily good looking astronaut who won silver in pistol shooting at the most recent Olympics.
 
Where?

The trade board?

I had a crack at Obeanie1 there, and included all West Coasts fans in it once, and copped a whack here for that. That was last year after the draft.

As for West Coast the club, I haven't trashed your club. I've discussed it's current situation and potential road out, and pretty much stuck to the same message elsewhere as here.

If you're talking Oscar Allen specifically, I haven't said anything different that has been said by some of your own fans here. Certainly haven't posted anything there that could be construed as trashing your club.

And in some discussions I find myself defending WC largely because there are no WC posters around (other than bzparkes occasionally). I don't get involved in the negative posting sh!t about Harley Reid in that thread. That's the main thread where I'm supporting/defending West Coasts position.

Genuinely the worst thing I have said is that I don't believe West Coast has hit rock bottom yet, and we've already had that discussion here. And about a week later Phil in one of his State of West Coasts list posts said the same thing, and not one poster here pulled him up on it.
I think you're forgetting that you aren't an eagles supporter.

On this board eagles supporters have every right to rip into the club but it will always come across as insulting when someone supporting another club does it. Even if you've been on this board for a while.

And Phil isn't the only one that gets stuck in with how bad we are. There are plenty of eagles posters that do the same. We are historically shithouse so you will naturally hear a lot of melts. Are you gonna bring up every other eagles supporter doing the same?
 

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It comes from an insecurity.

I used to know a guy. A whole heap of families went on holiday. A few of us are in a spa talking to some random dude. This guy is telling this rando he owns a construction company and bigging himself up. I'm sitting there thinking, "but you know we all know you're lying".

He was a deeply insecure dude who had to lie all the time to cover his insufficiencies.
People do definitely do this, there's no doubt, I know a few that do it myself.
I guess the relevant question would be here, is your mate still running the same construction company story with the same people 10+ years later (genuinely interested)?
 
People do definitely do this, there's no doubt, I know a few that do it myself.
I guess the relevant question would be here, is your mate still running the same construction company story with the same people 10+ years later (genuinely interested)?
I haven't see him for 7-8 years. This happened maybe 10-12 years ago. He didn't run with the "I own a construction company" all the time. The lies would change. He constantly told lies. He was also a raging alcoholic and boasted about how much piss he could put away (probably the only thing he didn't lie about). Other than that, he was a good guy. But a loser.

When we were in the spa that day, it was me, a mate (who was a closer mate of him than I was), and his female flatmate. He worked for his Uncle's construction company as a labourer. The three of us all knew that. He knew that we knew that. He just bullshitted this random guy for about half an hour in front of us.
 
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Do we really know the truth with Oscar Allen?

Towards the end of last season on one of his podcasts, Will Schofield said that Allen’s knee is a lot worse than the club has revealed and that there’s every chance it will never get better.

I considered that massive news at the time, and was staggered by the lack of follow up discussion. It seems to have been very hush hush ever since.

A degenerative knee injury explains why he is playing down back and why the Eagles aren’t prepared to offer him a deal you’d expect an AFL captain to receive.

In other words all this talk about “form” is irrelevant. Sure, he might adapt better to playing as a physically limited defender, but the prospect of an AA KPF is over.

Further, if he’s expecting a big offer from another club either that club will be negligent in their due diligence or he’s kidding himself.
 

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Do we really know the truth with Oscar Allen?

Towards the end of last season on one of his podcasts, Will Schofield said that Allen’s knee is a lot worse than the club has revealed and that there’s every chance it will never get better.

I considered that massive news at the time, and was staggered by the lack of follow up discussion. It seems to have been very hush hush ever since.

A degenerative knee injury explains why he is playing down back and why the Eagles aren’t prepared to offer him a deal you’d expect an AFL captain to receive.

In other words all this talk about “form” is irrelevant. Sure, he might adapt better to playing as a physically limited defender, but the prospect of an AA KPF is over.

Further, if he’s expecting a big offer from another club either that club will be negligent in their due diligence or he’s kidding himself.
Sshhh. Mods, please delete. Nothing to see here.
 
Do we really know the truth with Oscar Allen?

Towards the end of last season on one of his podcasts, Will Schofield said that Allen’s knee is a lot worse than the club has revealed and that there’s every chance it will never get better.

I considered that massive news at the time, and was staggered by the lack of follow up discussion. It seems to have been very hush hush ever since.

A degenerative knee injury explains why he is playing down back and why the Eagles aren’t prepared to offer him a deal you’d expect an AFL captain to receive.

In other words all this talk about “form” is irrelevant. Sure, he might adapt better to playing as a physically limited defender, but the prospect of an AA KPF is over.

Further, if he’s expecting a big offer from another club either that club will be negligent in their due diligence or he’s kidding himself.
Degenerative knee isn't the end of the world. JK had one. Just need to manage it.
 
Do we really know the truth with Oscar Allen?

Towards the end of last season on one of his podcasts, Will Schofield said that Allen’s knee is a lot worse than the club has revealed and that there’s every chance it will never get better.

I considered that massive news at the time, and was staggered by the lack of follow up discussion. It seems to have been very hush hush ever since.

A degenerative knee injury explains why he is playing down back and why the Eagles aren’t prepared to offer him a deal you’d expect an AFL captain to receive.

In other words all this talk about “form” is irrelevant. Sure, he might adapt better to playing as a physically limited defender, but the prospect of an AA KPF is over.

Further, if he’s expecting a big offer from another club either that club will be negligent in their due diligence or he’s kidding himself.

He already has those offers, the Allen camp knows how much he can get at the other clubs compared to the Eagles offer.

Barrass also had no spine left and was never playing again with another knock and that didn't stop the Hawks, doesn't seem to be an issue for him either.
 
Barrass also had no spine left and was never playing again with another knock and that didn't stop the Hawks, doesn't seem to be an issue for him either.
That’s true.

I’ve been watching Barrass closely as a result and he certainly isn’t running a lot.

He’d definitely make our defence stronger this season, but I guess we’ll have to wait and see how we use the pick we got for him, before we can assess the value of not offering him the deal he wanted.

In relation to the Allen camp knowing what other clubs will offer, maybe the other clubs will review their offers once they do the physical assessment.
 
He already has those offers, the Allen camp knows how much he can get at the other clubs compared to the Eagles offer.

Barrass also had no spine left and was never playing again with another knock and that didn't stop the Hawks, doesn't seem to be an issue for him either.
Well thats barrass talking, remarkable recovery I must say, although he is staying at home - perhaps the game plan with good team defence around him.
 
Not sure this has been discussed anywhere but after listening to Dan Gorringes pod , he mentioned Chad Warner came out and said he got a message from a club CEO over in the west that he will regret signing on with Sydney. I mean it sounds like Pyke was the one who messaged him that...
 
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