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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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Looks like Cameron is off the table as well. Happy at Pies and hopes a contract is done soon.


And for the people that don't want to give clicks to the Worst: https://archive.md/C41r3
Oh well, put in a decent offer to get N Moyle from GC.
He is the most ready made ruck who is probably a season away from being ready at 23, we need a ruck and their 1st pick this year.
Whatever it takes with picks to get their first pick, the PA pick(4) and Moyle?
Would Moyle be worth a late 2nd round pick?
 
Oh well, put in a decent offer to get N Moyle from GC.
He is the most ready made ruck who is probably a season away from being ready at 23, we need a ruck and their 1st pick this year.
Whatever it takes with picks to get their first pick, the PA pick(4) and Moyle?
Would Moyle be worth a late 2nd round pick?


That was my preference to go after Moyle way before a Cameron bid.
Moyle should be our number one Ruck Priority.

Moyle is a much better age profile for our list and hasn't yet even come into his best years.
He is IMO where Meek was three years ago, a very good player sitting behind a log jam in the depth chart, at the Club where he was.

I would like to think that we enquire about his services and float a very tempting offer, with some good coin and good tenure, under his and his managers noses.
 
Random thought, going back a month or so. Given we have a bunch of cap space for the next couple of years at least, I hope we’ve offered Bont at least $2m a season front-ended.

Bont is bulldogs GOAT. bulldogs are not going to just let him leave if the issue is money. They will chuck someone else out and pay Bont.
 

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Satisfied with Sharps showing. The only thing that would tank my view was if his ball use was shocking. He showed decent ball use today

At Dyson Sharp worse he's is just a tall Matt P. He tackles like pridda as well and we could do worse.

Dyson suits us. Elite accumulator, two way runner, and gets hands free all the time when tackled, can win clearances.

He does have a lack of versatility and athleticism. But thay doesn't matter since he suits us.

But yes I will walk back the statement of him being Rowell clone. Since he has not showed Rowell power and speed sadly. Reminds me so much of a Tall Matt P
Yeah had 2 kicks that showed his vision and skills.

Would’ve liked more disposals but has another 3 state league games to go and SANFL finals.
 
Not sure if you’re being intentionally obtuse but 2 of your 5 tigers in the top 7 have played 3 games or less (1 eagle) and 4 of the 10 from the top twenty (1 eagle). It also doesn’t include Brock and Brockman (both 22) who slot in before Maric.

I added the screenshot with the two 22yos you missed as well as another with a games filter to give a more accurate look at contributors this season.
Dom sheed pocket nothing mate?
 

So a few things. There was about 5-6 posters I was replying to, so couldn't reply to all the messages, only the ones that had were making good points.

Here's the list again. 2 things on the filtering. Originally we were clearly talking about under 23's so Brockman and Brock were both filtered out as wheeloratings goes by age as at December 31, by which stage they would be 23, so wouldn't count.

The other is - while small sample size of some players is a valid criticism, I don't think it's enough to exclude them entirely.

Here's the top 10 rated players 23 and under.

Personally, I'm still taking the team that has 6 of the top 8 players, but that's just me.

Let's revisit at the end of the season and see where things sit.
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Why is Willem duursma not mentioned more as a possibility for our first pick?
If it's because he's a duursma that's crazy. Sure Zane hasn't measured up as yet (still early days) & might be a bit flighty, but since when does that mean anything? If you took the best 30 mids in the game atm there'd be a lot who have a brother who never even got near the AFL. And in any case Xavier duursma isn't bad for a pick 18, and plays with intensity.
From the very limited vision I've watched & read, it seems W.duursma's upside is at least as high as the others being mentioned, & the risks are probably no worse than others.
He has size, agility & keeps getting the footy & hitting the scoreboard does he not?
 
Why is Willem duursma not mentioned more as a possibility for our first pick?
If it's because he's a duursma that's crazy. Sure Zane hasn't measured up as yet (still early days) & might be a bit flighty, but since when does that mean anything? If you took the best 30 mids in the game atm there'd be a lot who have a brother who never even got near the AFL. And in any case Xavier duursma isn't bad for a pick 18, and plays with intensity.
From the very limited vision I've watched & read, it seems W.duursma's upside is at least as high as the others being mentioned, & the risks are probably no worse than others.
He has size, agility & keeps getting the footy & hitting the scoreboard does he not?
Because he's a utility and he's twiggy.

A slightly built utility is rarely going to play in your midfield. Could be Bont. Could be Cale Morton. Too risky for me.

Some phantom drafts have him at #1.
 
Why is Willem duursma not mentioned more as a possibility for our first pick?
If it's because he's a duursma that's crazy. Sure Zane hasn't measured up as yet (still early days) & might be a bit flighty, but since when does that mean anything? If you took the best 30 mids in the game atm there'd be a lot who have a brother who never even got near the AFL. And in any case Xavier duursma isn't bad for a pick 18, and plays with intensity.
From the very limited vision I've watched & read, it seems W.duursma's upside is at least as high as the others being mentioned, & the risks are probably no worse than others.
He has size, agility & keeps getting the footy & hitting the scoreboard does he not?
He will be and has but still a whole carnival to play out.

I liked his game in the midfield in the futures game. When he went into the midfield in the 2nd half he was BOG.

Will likely come down to the Harley decision if we take him or not (and his back half of the year)
 

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So a few things. There was about 5-6 posters I was replying to, so couldn't reply to all the messages, only the ones that had were making good points.

Here's the list again. 2 things on the filtering. Originally we were clearly talking about under 23's so Brockman and Brock were both filtered out as wheeloratings goes by age as at December 31, by which stage they would be 23, so wouldn't count.

The other is - while small sample size of some players is a valid criticism, I don't think it's enough to exclude them entirely.

Here's the top 10 rated players 23 and under.

Personally, I'm still taking the team that has 6 of the top 8 players, but that's just me.

Let's revisit at the end of the season and see where things sit.
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Eagles have 11/20 with a combined 102
Richmond have 9/20 with a combined 66 games

It’s genuinely ludicrous to suggest their u23’s are having anywhere near as much impact.
 
Because he's a utility and he's twiggy.

A slightly built utility is rarely going to play in your midfield. Could be Bont. Could be Cale Morton. Too risky for me.

Some phantom drafts have him at #1.
You hit the nail on the head and something I haven't vocalised here.

I don't know why but the Dursma's givee the sweaty Morton palms, everytime I here his name.
 
Feel like the Oscar leaving stuff will be put in the same category as rumours of Peter Matera going to play for Melbourne and having a late career form burst and end up an Eagles hero.
 

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Because he's a utility and he's twiggy.

A slightly built utility is rarely going to play in your midfield. Could be Bont. Could be Cale Morton. Too risky for me.

Some phantom drafts have him at #1.
The word utility makes me nervous. We've had one too many players with no set position and never really settled on one. Brander, Tunbridge, SPS, Ah Chee etc.
Only exception is you can play one position very well but can play others when required, like Hough playing midfield or Yeo playing defence.
Hopefully guys currently on our list like Maric and Hutchinson can find their best position sooner rather than later.
 
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It’s unfortunate that a few of the guys who are absolutely perfect for us (Annable, Uwland, Addinsall and Patterson) won’t even be available for us to select, draft is ridiculous now.

I thought Harley Barker was really impressive, I hope he falls to our 2nd, I’d take him at Hawks pick if need be though.

Sharp wasn’t amazing by any means but he’s so fundamentally sound, that’s probably considered a quiet game for him and he was still fairly impactful both ways and was very good when used inside.
Depends on his endurance, he is slow so needs to have great endurance to cover his deficiency
Like a Tom Green at GWS he has a big tank which helps cover his lack of speed
He is a pick 5 to 10 for me with question marks on him
I rate Swadling and Annabale as better inside player's

Josh Lindsay plays similar to a Zac Merret at essendon watching his geelong falcons games,
he is the one i want with a early pick
 
Eagles have 11/20 with a combined 102
Richmond have 9/20 with a combined 66 games

It’s genuinely ludicrous to suggest their u23’s are having anywhere near as much impact.
All of this talk about Richmond's rebuild being miles in front of us is a fallacy.

Again, look at their best players from the GWS game.

Hopper, Taranto, Prestia, Nankervis.

They've won more games and are competitive most weeks because of their ruck/midfield.
 
Any VFL watchers seen Wade Derksen play for GWS seconds this year?

Averaging 20.9 disposals and 9.2 marks as a KPD.

23 years old and 197cm tall according to the GWS website. Out of contract at the end of this season.

Considering he's behind Aleer who can't break into their AFL side, seems a likely type to look for opportunities elsewhere.

Been pleasantly surprised with Edwards and (in particular) Brock so far, but Derksen would presumably be a cheap gamble and at the very least excellent depth.
 
Any VFL watchers seen Wade Derksen play for GWS seconds this year?

Averaging 20.9 disposals and 9.2 marks as a KPD.

23 years old and 197cm tall according to the GWS website. Out of contract at the end of this season.

Considering he's behind Aleer who can't break into their AFL side, seems a likely type to look for opportunities elsewhere.

Been pleasantly surprised with Edwards and (in particular) Brock so far, but Derksen would presumably be a cheap gamble and at the very least excellent depth.

I've only watched Derksen at WAFL level a few times in 2022. He played key forward and while he was very good at reading the play and kicked goals I remember don't remember him being quick or agile at all.

I'm sure if you played Edwards in the VFL you would get similar or potentially better stats.

I'd rather chase Aleer who has a much higher ceiling.
 
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