List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Added Draper on top of that. Probably not in need of much but it will get down for band1. Otherwise his agent has out Oscar in a shitter position then when he met with Mitchell and that would’ve taken some beating.

Who is his manager by the way?

 

[TOA.]

The Lions can just **** off.

Leave Starvevich on the table. If he can't reach a deal with the Lions to stay then great, PSD works for us.

Somebody tell Clarke that IF THE VALUE IS NOT RIGHT YOU DONT DO THE DEAL. But I bet we just pander to the Lions because we "made a commitment".

The sheer audacity of the Lions to ask for pick 16 makes my blood boil. They should be getting NOTHING for him as they are getting in Allen and Draper. Tell them to jump.

The ability of our club to find itself in these situation astounds me. The one year we manage to orchestrate a good free agency outcome in Allen is the ONE year we get a half decent free agent on the hook the other way and now seemingly are stuck having to trade a good pick for a bloke who is one head knock from retirement.

 

[Barrybran]

Pick 16 is 924 and 23 is 653

As it stands lions only have like 1300 points so yeah there is likely truth In all this. They are trying to bend us over so they can continue to rort the system.

They save more than that difference by us not bidding on Annable

 

[Coasters7]

Brisbane playing a dangerous game. Their only leverage is the compo but I daresay we’d be happy to keep Allen if it’s only band 2.

Can easily tell them to shove it and take Starcevich/Robertson for nothing and bid on Annable at 1.

If we fold on this then Clarke better pack his bags because we’ll never be taken seriously again.

This is also what happens when you don’t get ahead of the narrative. Letting the Lions send Starcevich off at the B+F then Twomey’s tweet about the PP means that’s the minimum we’ll be paying.

 

[TerryFilk]

Brisbane playing a dangerous game. Their only leverage is the compo but I daresay we’d be happy to keep Allen if it’s only band 2.

Can easily tell them to shove it and take Starcevich/Robertson for nothing and bid on Annable at 1.

If we fold on this then Clarke better pack his bags because we’ll never be taken seriously again.

This is also what happens when you don’t get ahead of the narrative. Letting the Lions send Starcevich off at the B+F then Twomey’s tweet about the PP means that’s the minimum we’ll be paying.

I don’t think we’d be “happy” to keep Allen, matching that contract would be a horrible scenario for us. Of course we can threaten that though, it’s in Brisbanes interest to make sure it’s band 1 but it seems like they are going to hold us hostage over it.

 

[Barrybran]

Brisbane playing a dangerous game. Their only leverage is the compo but I daresay we’d be happy to keep Allen if it’s only band 2.

Can easily tell them to shove it and take Starcevich/Robertson for nothing and bid on Annable at 1.

If we fold on this then Clarke better pack his bags because we’ll never be taken seriously again.

This is also what happens when you don’t get ahead of the narrative. Letting the Lions send Starcevich off at the B+F then Twomey’s tweet about the PP means that’s the minimum we’ll be paying.

We don't have to "get ahead of the narrative". We can do business our way. Brisbane looks stupid if they wind up keeping Starcevich or letting him go for the Hawks' R2. We just need to keep Matty Clarke away from any negotiations.

 

[TOA.]

We don't have to "get ahead of the narrative". We can do business our way. Brisbane looks stupid if they wind up keeping Starcevich or letting him go for the Hawks' R2. We just need to keep Matty Clarke away from any negotiations.

In theory, agree. But the Lions know from last year that we have no balls or business savvy. They will play us easily.

 

[InTheWings]

Leave Starvevich on the table. If he can't reach a deal with the Lions to stay then great, PSD works for us.

Exaclty this.

We hold all the cards here. Brisbane has offered Allen a contract, the terms of which they need to honour.

And they need to do that before the free agent window closes on Friday.

If we are clever, all we need to do is sit on our hands and wait for Brisbane to do the FA paperwork. After that, we can talk about trades for Starcevich.

 

[Wce17]

What’s the better option?.

A) Allen & 22 (PP) for 2 & Starc

Or

B) Allen for Starc & 19 (Diluted Compo)

It’s clearly A for both teams.

 

[BG__]

Why are we even entertaining a ‘fair’ trade when we can just walk him to the draft.

We need to grow some ****ing balls. You wouldn’t see Geelong negotiating like this, they’d offer something like a late 2nd or 3rd rounder and say “take it or we just walk them to the draft” and they wouldn’t budge on that.

Nice guys finish last.

 

[Patron]

Bid at 1 make them feel maximum pain

Pick 1 is an award these days and comes with extra cash. I wouldn't want whoever we truly value at 1 (probably Duursma) to start off on the wrong foot with us like that just out of spite.

 

[Elite Pete]

Who is his manager by the way?

Former Eagle Andrew McDougall I believe

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

What about trading pick to 2 and 17 to GC for picks for picks 7 and 8

 

[Elite Pete]

I don’t think we’d be “happy” to keep Allen, matching that contract would be a horrible scenario for us. Of course we can threaten that though, it’s in Brisbanes interest to make sure it’s band 1 but it seems like they are going to hold us hostage over it.

Disagree I think we would be happy to keep Allen over pick 20. The contact is band 2 worth in that case too, we would just front end it (we haven’t pay someone) but 0 chance he comes back now, his manager would have to pivot and find another option.

Flanders is costing teams band 1 money and pick 7 to get the deal done.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Clarke will blink, won't he.

This sort of chicanery becomes doable when you prove yourself weak negotiators.

 

[Shifty1]

For all the screaming at Brisbane, we've done this to our ****ing selves. We've allowed Brisbane to get some leverage by pursuing Starc. Would have been much cleaner where Allen RFA and a bid on Annable were the only moving parts. Starc is a good player and Dev is fine depth.......but neither are game changers and we've just complicated the whole thing by adding them to the mix.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

What about trading pick to 2 and 17 to GC for picks for picks 7 and 8

Is Davies included?

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Is Davies included?

No not needed

 

[Peptide Pig]

Rowell won the b&f
Miller 3rd

He's not leaving

Last time I trust Dan Gorringe as a news source

 

[eaglevision]

What about trading pick to 2 and 17 to GC for picks for picks 7 and 8

I would provided it gets two of Cumming, Sharp and Schubert.

 

[juice568]

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This is after round 10

 

[Wce17]

For all the screaming at Brisbane, we've done this to our ****ing selves. We've allowed Brisbane to get some leverage by pursuing Starc. Would have been much cleaner where Allen RFA and a bid on Annable were the only moving parts. Starc is a good player and Dev is fine depth.......but neither are game changers and we've just complicated the whole thing by adding them to the mix.

Why are we melting about something that hasn’t even happened. Brisbane will ask for 16 but it doesn’t mean they will get it. Will end up being the PP pick. Which is fair because it’s getting us pick 2 instead of pick 20 (End of first compo)

 

[amazingjoshy]

View attachment 2447224Last time I trust Dan Gorringe as a news source

I mean, it clearly says that's after Rd 10

 

[ep2018]

Ruins our chances of trading up with Gold Coast if we trade the Hawks pick as well. It will sting doubly as much.

 

[leighmo]

For all the screaming at Brisbane, we've done this to our ****ing selves. We've allowed Brisbane to get some leverage by pursuing Starc. Would have been much cleaner where Allen RFA and a bid on Annable were the only moving parts. Starc is a good player and Dev is fine depth.......but neither are game changers and we've just complicated the whole thing by adding them to the mix.

Time to chill out mate. It hasn’t happened yet, and we’ve been targeting Starc before OA wanted to go to Brisbane.