List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

[Keys]

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Do any good?

No, but it was better than arguing over Clarke

 

[Happy Mastenator]

How has someone not had a word to the kid and told him to pull his head in. Getting best on in the GF and now this. Just unacceptable behaviour.

Makes me long for the days of tents and a couple of girls

 

[eaglevision]

Pick 34- 360 points
Pick 38- 277 points
Pick 41- 220 points

Overall difference of 140 points - roughly the value of pick 46 (134 points)

If it’s pick 34 we should be asking for something back like their 2027 R3 pick for example which would replace the FF3 we gave to St Kilda

Ultimately there’s not much difference between 34 and 41 and no real point stressing over it - but as others have mentioned it’d be nice to end up on the slightly better end of a deal for once

Agree on points Keys but 34 as opposed to 41 could be incredibly useful come draft night to pick up a couple of F2s/F3s to slide down the order a couple of picks.

Good example is in 2023 Richmond pocketed our F3 for sliding two places from 38 to 40 just so we could grab Hall. That ended up pick 39 before bids etc. in 2024.

Next year we’ll be needing points and picks for matching so I’d really drive a hard bargain with this trade, especially after overpaying for a trade with the same club last year.

 

[Godfather32]

No, but it was better than arguing over Clarke

You missed a lot, it was the weekend this board made me look up what felching is, can't unsee that in my minds eye

 

[wceeaglesfan]

What if Richmond and Essendon also rank Cumming and Schubert high? Aren't you better off waiting until draft day to get a feel for who is taking who, and then make your decision accordingly?

Lot's of people don't rate CDT or Sharp. Some "experts" had Sharp at 15 a couple of months back. While CDT seems to be rated by the experts, lots of BF Eagles and Tigers fans aren't into him. I not convinced the clubs have him rated as high as the experts.

No club who holds the higher pick will make that trade until draft day. I don't get the pointing of talking about something that isn't going to happen before Thursday?

The rumours are that Essendon like CDT and Duursma, Richmond also have strong links to Robey

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

The rumours are that Essendon like CDT and Duursma, Richmond also have strong links to Robey

Cool. So wait until draft day where the value can be maximised.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Lol, Deven Robertson won the Larke Medal, a lot of guys who won the Larke Medal ended up being pretty average AFL footballers.

There’s a reason Sharp’s falling down the order, I still like him a lot but you can’t seriously watch him and not say you’re worried about the step up, the complete lack of explosiveness is a huge worry, there’s a very good chance he just ends up being a James Worpel type.

You guys have to be able to look towards the future and understand how some players project at the next level, Sharp’s profile is becoming less and less liked by coaches, unless they are a genuine point of difference.

Duursma has a lot more AFL star attributes and traits than Sharp does.

Don’t want this to be taken as a dig towards Sharp either because as I said I still do like him, I just think this notion that because he’s a contested inside player we should reach on him is a bit ridiculous.

Yeh nah.

See I disagree about your lack medal comment

three failed in the last 20 years.

Heres the other 17
24 lombard Langford
23 sanders
22 ashcroft
18 Walsh
17 Allen
16 Graham
14 petracca
13 sheed
12 cog
11 Whitfield
10 bennel
09 swallow
08 watts
07 Morton
06 Hawkins
05 murphy

Bennel should've been a star.
Watts was wasted by the poisonous Melbourne FC

I'll take the risk on the larke medalist any year.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I guess the clock is working in our favour with Young. The more time ticks by the more Richmond will have to worry about PSD even without us even saying the word. Maybe we are just waiting for them to crack and accept pick 41 without sullying ourselves with the tag of being a club who used the PSD threat.

 

[Elite Pete]

Pick 34- 360 points
Pick 38- 277 points
Pick 41- 220 points

Overall difference of 140 points - roughly the value of pick 46 (134 points)

If it’s pick 34 we should be asking for something back like their 2027 R3 pick for example which would replace the FF3 we gave to St Kilda

Ultimately there’s not much difference between 34 and 41 and no real point stressing over it - but as others have mentioned it’d be nice to end up on the slightly better end of a deal for once

DVI clearly represents some value of the pick but not all of it.

Teams also come calling for picks that that stage if they like someone that has fallen. Different projected of drafts but late 20s pick got that F1 for 27 and F2.

45 (Boxshall) got a F2 out of a team that was projected to be bottom half of that ladder.

Always try and hold that higher pick because you never know. It’s also gives a team a gauge on how you negotiate, if your always taking ‘unders’ they will just and drive a harder deal knowing youre likely to fold.

We won’t do it due to old mates at Richmond but was interesting to hear the old lost boss at the Swans talking about the Dawson deal to the Crows and the threat of the PSD worked because they recently used it with Hately from the Giants. Negotiation history matters.

 

[eaglevision]

Carlton has decision to make with Hollands

"That is something we will have to work through."

www.sen.com.au

Hollands would cost pick 58.

 

[Elite Pete]

Carlton has decision to make with Hollands

"That is something we will have to work through."

www.sen.com.au

Hollands would cost pick 58.

Get him across move him in with old mate Owies and see how it goes. If no good by half way in the year we have our MSD spot.

He is a jet and worth a risk imo.

 

[eaglevision]

Get him across move him in with old mate Owies and see how it goes. If no good by half way in the year we have our MSD spot.

He is a jet and worth a risk imo.

Blowies may not be good for Hollands…

With our list spot situation would be great if Carlton just delist him and we can rookie him if he’s not a complete ****wit

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Are any of the NGA's or Banfield capable of coming in straight away and being the high pressure forward that we desperately lack who can chase down and tackle effectively when the opposition are trying to move the ball out of our F50?

 

[Hook461123]

Are any of the NGA's or Banfield capable of coming in straight away and being the high pressure forward that we desperately lack who can chase down and tackle effectively when the opposition are trying to move the ball out of our F50?

I reckon we send Baker forward for this reason. We’re stacked at hbf but really need a pressure hhf

 

[new breed]

Are any of the NGA's or Banfield capable of coming in straight away and being the high pressure forward that we desperately lack who can chase down and tackle effectively when the opposition are trying to move the ball out of our F50?

Leon Kickett , but not NGA .
bolter maybe which might mean Williams drops down a little for WC

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Banfield might just end up the pick of the bunch from WA at this rate. Really finished the year strong

 

[Monocle]

Banfield might just end up the pick of the bunch from WA at this rate. Really finished the year strong

Too strong for my liking.

 

[wadistance]

Are any of the NGA's or Banfield capable of coming in straight away and being the high pressure forward that we desperately lack who can chase down and tackle effectively when the opposition are trying to move the ball out of our F50?

Isn’t this what we’ve been blooding Dewar and Champion for?

 

[Bender_]

If CDT was 2 inches taller I would have no issue taking him

Would you reconsider if he was earning 6 figures?

 

[Godfather32]

If CDT was 2 inches taller I would have no issue taking him

 

[Schtinker]

Agree on points Keys but 34 as opposed to 41 could be incredibly useful come draft night to pick up a couple of F2s/F3s to slide down the order a couple of picks.

Good example is in 2023 Richmond pocketed our F3 for sliding two places from 38 to 40 just so we could grab Hall. That ended up pick 39 before bids etc. in 2024.

Next year we’ll be needing points and picks for matching so I’d really drive a hard bargain with this trade, especially after overpaying for a trade with the same club last year.

From what I've read Richmond only want enough points in case a bid for F/S Kellaway possibly comes in. Surely if a bid for Kellaway comes in we could then trade/swap a pick for them to match? from what I've read Kellaway isn't highly regarded as someone who a team would bid on anyway.

 

[TerryFilk]

Yeh nah.

See I disagree about your lack medal comment

three failed in the last 20 years.

Heres the other 17
24 lombard Langford
23 sanders
22 ashcroft
18 Walsh
17 Allen
16 Graham
14 petracca
13 sheed
12 cog
11 Whitfield
10 bennel
09 swallow
08 watts
07 Morton
06 Hawkins
05 murphy

Bennel should've been a star.
Watts was wasted by the poisonous Melbourne FC

I'll take the risk on the larke medalist any year.

My point is it’s a silly argument because there’s still a lot of guys on that list who are solid without being great players and the most disappointing ones are the contested mid archetypes that never evolved.

Out of all those guys, very very few were the best from their draft class career wise.

 

[Schtinker]

Blowies may not be good for Hollands…

With our list spot situation would be great if Carlton just delist him and we can rookie him if he’s not a complete ****wit

Trade Owies for Lek Aleer.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I guess the clock is working in our favour with Young. The more time ticks by the more Richmond will have to worry about PSD even without us even saying the word. Maybe we are just waiting for them to crack and accept pick 41 without sullying ourselves with the tag of being a club who used the PSD threat.

The 2 factors holding it up are....

They can't have what we dont have. We are trying to get another top 10 pick and need the 33 37 for this.

Secondly, as keys has pointed out pick 41 is the sweet spot pick worth 220 points we need for a Williams bid.

 

[Cuzz09]

Cant wait to see Banners Jr get a debut