List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Pretty much talked myself into wanting Mitchell

He would essentially be a development midfield/stoppage coach paid outside the soft cap (where we’re tight) because his pay is under the salary cap (where we’re not tight)

Don’t forget his old man was a well respected assistant coach in his day so there’s every possibility Tom might be the same. Bringing him across from Collingwood at the same time Mitch Duncan comes in from Geelong and Starcevich/Robertson from Brisbane gives us some high level IP from the three most recent premiers (Sydney are the only other side to play a GF in the last 4 years)

We also toyed with the idea of Duncan playing on so it’s not like having Mitchell would be a significant departure from that

It’s the 48th spot on the list. There are worse options

Was there some talk a few months ago about once again having a portion of a "Veteran" players $$ outside the cap?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Hawthorn has done an objectively excellent job in rebuilding their list after a few years of malaise after their dynasty ended, and I find it quite funny that rather than going with the correct takeaway (draft and develop well; identify undervalued players at other clubs who can be traded in without sacrificing significant draft strength and then thrive in the right position and system) he’s gone with “be more aggressive by telling everyone what you’re trying to do.”

I like that hawthorn have made themselves competitive. I also think they’ve got themselves in a bind where they are good but not good enough to win a premiership with limited avenues to get better and Gunston is surely almost done and they will have to find all his goals elsewhere. They will be putting a lot of hope in getting free agents

 

[Cuzz09]

I heard Will Phillips is training with us so you'd assume he'll be one of the 4 rookies

‘Cashed-up’: Bidding war set to erupt over Port gun, ‘door open’ for Hawks raid — Trade Whispers

‘Cashed-up’: Bidding war set to erupt over Port gun, ‘door open’ for Hawks raid — Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

Not current article but I did hear it this morning too

 

[Eastern Rangers]

There's nothing surer than WCE directly overlooking a ground ball, forward of centre, stoppage-adept player for the opposite of that (eg Farrow).

Except maybe for GWS taking the best of the former candidates the pick directly before ours.

Absolutely. My only hope is that Clarke, Mini havent had time to impose themselves on the list yet.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Anyone know how our younger NGA boys went on Friday night against the WAFL all stars?

 

[wceeaglesfan]

Does Dyson Sharp really fill our needs the most? Besides his contested game he doesn’t address transition defense, speed, ball use and the ability to help transition the ball.

If I were the eagles I would select Sam Cumming, he still needs to work on finding the ball on the outside. But fills all our other needs in the midfield, just like sharp he can probably play midfield minutes straight away. Hes arguably performed better at SANFL level then sharp.

 

[Keys]

Is there anything semi concrete linking us to any of these blokes? Or just BF posters convincing themselves that it’s happening?

There’s been media reports linking us to all of Macrae, Schoenberg, Berry and Clohesy. We were also reportedly interested in Phillips earlier in the year but that talk hasn’t resurfaced

Mitchell has said he would move to play for West Coast if the opportunity came up but no idea if there’s been any direct contact between him and the club

The rest is just BF spitballing although I will say it’s common knowledge we’re looking for players in their early to mid twenties so any manager with a delisted player should be on the phone to the club. They’d be derelict in their duty if they haven’t

Clarke did indicate in an interview he’d been fielding approaches from player managers so it is happening

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

I heard Will Phillips is training with us so you'd assume he'll be one of the 4 rookies

‘Cashed-up’: Bidding war set to erupt over Port gun, ‘door open’ for Hawks raid — Trade Whispers

‘Cashed-up’: Bidding war set to erupt over Port gun, ‘door open’ for Hawks raid — Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

Not current article but I did hear it this morning too

So you heard he's a train on with us? Reliable source? Anyone else you heard we're looking closely at?

 

[mattyc75]

Does Dyson Sharp really fill our needs the most? Besides his contested game he doesn’t address transition defense, speed, ball use and the ability to help transition the ball.

If I were the eagles I would select Sam Cumming, he still needs to work on finding the ball on the outside. But fills all our other needs in the midfield, just like sharp he can probably play midfield minutes straight away. Hes arguably performed better at SANFL level then sharp.

I think he does, we've got Reid, Hewett, duursma, and all our other "transition mids' who will benefit from an in and under mid who'll get them the ball. Sharp will also tackle better than any of them.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

I think he does, we've got Reid, Hewett, duursma, and all our other "transition mids' who will benefit from an in and under mid who'll get them the ball. Sharp will also tackle better than any of them.

i dont think cumming contested game is that far apart from sharps, he's also a very good tackler with the speed to chase. Cumming also performed better at SANFL level, i think he could walk straight into the main team.

 

[Snowball81]

Put together the following list of DFAs we either already have or could/should talk to as potential rookie list additions in order from oldest to youngest:

19/11/92- David Swallow (185cm, 249 games)
31/05/93- Tom Mitchell (182cm, 207 games)
21/02/01- Harry Schoenberg (180cm, 62 games)
01/05/01- Tom Berry (185cm, 43 games)
13/03/02- Fin Macrae (186cm, 21 games)
25/04/02- Elijah Hollands (189cm, 41 games)
22/05/02- Will Phillips (180cm, 50 games)
16/09/03- Ben Hobbs (183cm, 65 games)
06/09/04- Ted Clohesy (184cm, 12 games)
29/10/04- Jaxon Binns (183cm, 8 games)
28/03/05- Luamon Lual (181cm, 12 games)
26/10/05- Oskar Smartt (180cm, 4 games)

As you’d expect from a group of delisted players, it’s not a particularly inspiring list but when you’re looking to fill the final few spots on an extended list of 48 that’s what’s going to be left

With Robertson already guaranteed a contract, we have a total of 8 list spots to fill which could become 9 if Livingstone doesn’t get extended next week.

With our first 3-4 draft picks plus NGA and F/S additions 6-7 of those vacant spots will be filled across the primary and rookie drafts - which will leave two spots to be filled post draft via a train on process from the DFA pile or possibly mature aged state league players.

From that list, Hollands has the highest probability of becoming a regular AFL player and at 23 is in the right age demographic. Unfortunately he comes with significant off field baggage that saw Carlton delist him with a year remaining on his contract. He also seems determined to set things right with Carlton and will be granted a train on spot to earn back lost trust. So I don’t think he’ll be someone the club considers

Lual and Clohesy are at the younger end of the list but probably also gives them the highest scope for improvement. We’ve already reportedly approached Clohesy but I’m unaware if we’ve reached out to Lual who I must say seemed a bit of a surprise delisting. Binns and Smartt I don’t know much about although I think eaglespremiers is a Smartt fan and I value his judgment

The group in the middle of Berry, Schoenberg, Macrae, Phillips and Hobbs have shown themselves to be fringe AFL players only with limitations to their respective games. It’s unlikely any of them will suddenly transform themselves into regular best 23 players but they would each provide a mature body to help the WAFL side and competition for a place in the seniors. They’ve all at least shown a capacity to contribute at AFL level

Leaves Tom Mitchell (forget Swallow he’s proper cooked and about to turn 33). My first, and probably correct, thought was he’s too slow, a bit too old, a bit too injury prone and the type of player that doesn’t fit either McQualter’s game plan or, more broadly, the direction the game is moving in. We didn’t consider Jack Steele as an option for what I suspect were similar reasons

But after listening to his interview on SEN with Gossage my views changed a bit. Clearly he’s motivated to prove he still can play at AFL level so you’re going to get someone who’s totally committed and he’s set high standards across his career. He’s played at three successful clubs (although Hawthorn struggled a bit during his time there) and won himself a Brownlow along the way

Having an experienced player like Mitchell at the coalface giving support to our young mids at the Beagles would instantly make that side more competitive. As well as being a virtual onfield assistant coach giving them direction and education. His presence around the club with training standards and leadership would be invaluable

We would be giving a list spot to someone who’s probably not going to be playing much at AFL level and who’s best football is clearly behind him. But if we bring him across on the understanding that opportunities at AFL level will be limited then he’s worth considering at least. I think he’d offer more as an overall package than those other mid aged players

If we brought in Mitchell and Clohesy or Lual I wouldn’t be unhappy

Great summation and understand all the comments about him being too slow, but I’m not worried about the the pace. What I am worried about is we don’t have any midfielder capable of extracting 25+ possessions consistently out of the centre.

McCarthy has the potential and so does Harley. Yeo can, but haven’t seen him much in 4-5 years.

Mitchell, we know, can get it and we need him to do that and get it out to our better ball users in Harley, Hewett, McCarthy etc just like priddis used to do. The more times we can get it in their hands, the more times we will get it into the front half cleanly and give ourselves a chance at posting a reasonable total. His two way running is what I’m not sure about, but given we only had 1 win last year my preference is to see us start getting the ball!

So, I’m all aboard the Mitchell train and for what it’s worth I quite like Jaxon binns as well. I think he is a direct Chesser replacement and honestly feel he is just as good as him form what I’ve seen.

Clohesy I would also like to have a crack at as I think he could be good if given a better chance in his chosen position being the Midfield, but we can’t get them all.

 

[archiemoses]

Happy with Will Phillips over Tom Mitchell.

Ideally between Clohesy, Phillips and Dev we can get one serviceable contested mid.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Happy with Will Phillips over Tom Mitchell.

Ideally between Clohesy, Phillips and Dev we can get one serviceable contested mid.

After the success of McCarthy I don't see why we wouldn't take Blamires over Phillips.

 

[archiemoses]

After the success of McCarthy I don't see why we wouldn't take Blamires over Phillips.

Yes but we would have to get him via the rookie draft? So he's a chance if he gets through the ND

 

[Cuzz09]

So you heard he's a train on with us? Reliable source? Anyone else you heard we're looking closely at?

There was a tweet this morning saying he's confirmed train with us

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

There was a tweet this morning saying he's confirmed train with us

If true, great ****ing news. Now secure Clohesy

 

[Keys]

Yes but we would have to get him via the rookie draft? So he's a chance if he gets through the ND

We have pick 1 in the RD so he’d have to be a consideration at that point if he misses out in the main draft

There was a tweet this morning saying he's confirmed train with us

I saw that tweet as well but I have my doubts on the reliability of that account- seems like another footy nuffy like the rest of us rather someone with inside knowledge

 

[Wce17]

I would love to somehow get Harley Barker. Kids gonna be good & the only reason he's not getting talked about more is because he did his ACL. He looked all class in the champs games & really stood out.

I'd give up our R2 next year to trade back in and grab him or slide back from 2 & get him that way.

 

[FKASC]

Would rather anyone but Phillips tbh. Seems like a massive spud. Mitchell would add far more off field alone

 

[wceeaglesfan]

I would love to somehow get Harley Barker. Kids gonna be good & the only reason he's not getting talked about more is because he did his ACL. He looked all class in the champs games & really stood out.

I'd give up our R2 next year to trade back in and grab him or slide back from 2 & get him that way.

agree, has such good traits to be a elite winger at afl level. Extremely fast, elite overhead, tall and hits the scoreboard.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Yeop. IMO Doverston is the draft bolter in draft night. I can see dees taking him along with a tall. Kids a gun.

Yep, he's absolute quality.

 

[Kegs15]

Put together the following list of DFAs we either already have or could/should talk to as potential rookie list additions in order from oldest to youngest:

19/11/92- David Swallow (185cm, 249 games)
31/05/93- Tom Mitchell (182cm, 207 games)
21/02/01- Harry Schoenberg (180cm, 62 games)
01/05/01- Tom Berry (185cm, 43 games)
13/03/02- Fin Macrae (186cm, 21 games)
25/04/02- Elijah Hollands (189cm, 41 games)
22/05/02- Will Phillips (180cm, 50 games)
16/09/03- Ben Hobbs (183cm, 65 games)
06/09/04- Ted Clohesy (184cm, 12 games)
29/10/04- Jaxon Binns (183cm, 8 games)
28/03/05- Luamon Lual (181cm, 12 games)
26/10/05- Oskar Smartt (180cm, 4 games)

As you’d expect from a group of delisted players, it’s not a particularly inspiring list but when you’re looking to fill the final few spots on an extended list of 48 that’s what’s going to be left

With Robertson already guaranteed a contract, we have a total of 8 list spots to fill which could become 9 if Livingstone doesn’t get extended next week.

With our first 3-4 draft picks plus NGA and F/S additions 6-7 of those vacant spots will be filled across the primary and rookie drafts - which will leave two spots to be filled post draft via a train on process from the DFA pile or possibly mature aged state league players.

From that list, Hollands has the highest probability of becoming a regular AFL player and at 23 is in the right age demographic. Unfortunately he comes with significant off field baggage that saw Carlton delist him with a year remaining on his contract. He also seems determined to set things right with Carlton and will be granted a train on spot to earn back lost trust. So I don’t think he’ll be someone the club considers

Lual and Clohesy are at the younger end of the list but probably also gives them the highest scope for improvement. We’ve already reportedly approached Clohesy but I’m unaware if we’ve reached out to Lual who I must say seemed a bit of a surprise delisting. Binns and Smartt I don’t know much about although I think eaglespremiers is a Smartt fan and I value his judgment

The group in the middle of Berry, Schoenberg, Macrae, Phillips and Hobbs have shown themselves to be fringe AFL players only with limitations to their respective games. It’s unlikely any of them will suddenly transform themselves into regular best 23 players but they would each provide a mature body to help the WAFL side and competition for a place in the seniors. They’ve all at least shown a capacity to contribute at AFL level

Leaves Tom Mitchell (forget Swallow he’s proper cooked and about to turn 33). My first, and probably correct, thought was he’s too slow, a bit too old, a bit too injury prone and the type of player that doesn’t fit either McQualter’s game plan or, more broadly, the direction the game is moving in. We didn’t consider Jack Steele as an option for what I suspect were similar reasons

But after listening to his interview on SEN with Gossage my views changed a bit. Clearly he’s motivated to prove he still can play at AFL level so you’re going to get someone who’s totally committed and he’s set high standards across his career. He’s played at three successful clubs (although Hawthorn struggled a bit during his time there) and won himself a Brownlow along the way

Having an experienced player like Mitchell at the coalface giving support to our young mids at the Beagles would instantly make that side more competitive. As well as being a virtual onfield assistant coach giving them direction and education. His presence around the club with training standards and leadership would be invaluable

We would be giving a list spot to someone who’s probably not going to be playing much at AFL level and who’s best football is clearly behind him. But if we bring him across on the understanding that opportunities at AFL level will be limited then he’s worth considering at least. I think he’d offer more as an overall package than those other mid aged players

If we brought in Mitchell and Clohesy or Lual I wouldn’t be unhappy

Good list, thanks for the post!

Purely as a thought exercise and not that I expect the club to consider it this way but if say considering two spots max off this list I'd almost want to 'average out' the potential vs stability if that makes sense.

So say Hollands - Mitchell would be those opposite ends, Hollands I'm keen on and feel like taking a risk is worth it with these extra spots, then you'd have Mitchell with professionalism and stability as someone to captain-coach at WAFL or still contribute at AFL level.

Or then Clohesy - Phillips would be a similar 'average' but both a lot closer to the middle, don't think either would have the peak of Hollands and Phillips wouldn't offer the leadership of Mitchell but on total balance would be around that average?

They'd probably be the four I'd be most keen on, Lual also but small defenders probably isn't a huge need.

The only concern I'd have with Mitchell is the length of his contract. For 2026 alone he'd probably be top of the list for me, think he'd be fantastic. But 2027 you'd hope our young mids were starting to take more ownership of how they do things in there and a 25 year old Phillips would be likelier to be playing good footy in the same role and potentially slotting into that mix? Unlikely Mitchell would come over for a one-year contract (unless we work in some coaching stuff) so definitely think that's worth considering.

Not keen at all on Berry, don't think he offers a greater combined amount of potential or leadership/experience than other options on this list. And as for Hobbs, don't think he offers anything that Phillips doesn't offer more of.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Really hope we land Clohesy, but GCS were into him and his brother plays there.
Bombers also into him, does he want to stay in Vic.

 

[stallon]

Im all for Phillips over Mitchell or whoever.

He has talent, he does the role people want Sharp to do, and hes a good age to slot straight into the side from round 1

Phillips and Dev as additions to our midfield depth would be a great result imo

 

[ArdentEagle]

Clohesy the best by far of the available delists for mine.