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I just don't think witherden is a good enough kick to carry his defensive liabilities.

Jetta wasn't that good a defender but he did have pace to keep up on a smaller opponent which is enough some times for that forward not to be an option .

Jetta was also an exceptional field kick .

Witho is an easy Delist for me . There was a reason Brisbane let him go and paid a lot of his salary .

Yep, it's his lack of leg speed that is the issue (both offensively and defensively). Also a very slow decision maker.

His kicking, in general, is very good. But it is not the elite+ kicking that he needs to have to overcome his deficiencies around pace.
 
Interesting that he didn’t have either of Hayes or Keeler in his top 20.
Keeler I sort of get …… but Hayes ….. not so sure about that, having a small forward and a couple of attacking half back flankers ahead of one of the best KPP in this cohort. 🤔
Just crazy, not many 200cm guys can move like Keeler does and definitely agree on Hayes. Almost guarantee both go top 20, only thing I don't know if how they are off field which might hold them back.

But if Keeler was at our first second round pick, I'd be delighted!
 

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There's talk about him getting more time on the ball and being more balanced - but it's just talk. I think the recruiters know that elite bulls are top of the food chain and elite balanced mids just below. I don't think recruiters in this day and age will spend a top 6 or 7 pick on an outside mid.
Not with you on the bulls being top of the food chain. That mantle goes to balanced mids, especially goal kicking mids. That is why Hobbs dropped down a bit and Ward taken was earlier. It is and why Hewett is starting to drift as he is not having the impact elsewhere. It is why Angus and Roberts drifted last year. Is is why

Why do I say that?

Would Suns take Anderson or Rowell if they could only take 1 and knowing their development?
JHF is a balanced mid and hence he elevated to the top.
Erasmus was preferred to Johnson.

Warner at Sydney is flourishing as a balanced mid.
Robertson is struggling to get games as he does not have the outside part to add to his inside.
Viney has become the 3rd or 4th mid at Melbourne because he is really just the bull.
Bontempelli and Petracca are seen as the most valuable players because they are balanced and have scoreboard impact. That is not to say that Wines and Cripps ae not valuable, just not as valuable as the balanced.

If you think purely outside mids, the elite prospects must have pace to get that separation, endurance to do it all day and elite skills delivery to inside 50 to hit those difficult money passes. That is why Sneezel is pushing so high, not for his inside but his balanced to more outside excitement. Callahan was much the same last year. Port gave up a first and second for Sinn. I am noticing the better outside mids are spending time at CBD and stoppages,
 
Not with you on the bulls being top of the food chain. That mantle goes to balanced mids, especially goal kicking mids. That is why Hobbs dropped down a bit and Ward taken was earlier. It is and why Hewett is starting to drift as he is not having the impact elsewhere. It is why Angus and Roberts drifted last year. Is is why

Why do I say that?

Would Suns take Anderson or Rowell if they could only take 1 and knowing their development?
JHF is a balanced mid and hence he elevated to the top.
Erasmus was preferred to Johnson.

Warner at Sydney is flourishing as a balanced mid.
Robertson is struggling to get games as he does not have the outside part to add to his inside.
Viney has become the 3rd or 4th mid at Melbourne because he is really just the bull.
Bontempelli and Petracca are seen as the most valuable players because they are balanced and have scoreboard impact. That is not to say that Wines and Cripps ae not valuable, just not as valuable as the balanced.

If you think purely outside mids, the elite prospects must have pace to get that separation, endurance to do it all day and elite skills delivery to inside 50 to hit those difficult money passes. That is why Sneezel is pushing so high, not for his inside but his balanced to more outside excitement. Callahan was much the same last year. Port gave up a first and second for Sinn. I am noticing the better outside mids are spending time at CBD and stoppages,
I'm not saying all bulls > all balanced mids......

Fyfe, Dusty, Wines, Cripps, Petracca, Danger

v

Pendles, Bont, Oliver, Neale etc


They're pretty close, but I have the bulls slightly ahead. And it's not like 10 bulls are going to be top before a balanced enter the mix. They sort of intermesh (because Walsh is better than SPP etc.)

Rowell or Anderson? Anderson. But again, not every bull is better than every balanced and vice versa.

I have elite bulls slightly above elite balanced mids, and the outsiders a fair way behind simply because they don't control outcomes. They're important, but cream on top important rather than I'm going to drag this side across the line/up the ladder important.
 
Tsatas is probably the one good prospect I’d want to avoid specifically for us tbh


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Wouldn't take him with our first. But A Clark/Tsatas combo with pick 4/6 would be pretty tidy.
 
It really does seem like we can go pick 2, best mid available, and feel comfortable that either a decent ruck or key forward will be available at pick 20. We should be able to get another midfield talent at pick 26. Liking how it's going.
 

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What’s happened to Broadbent? Gone from a top 10 lock to not even getting a mention in Twomey’s rankings.
Broadbent has suffered from shin splints and I suspect he has grown some more. If he has grown as rumoured, no drama as his coordination will also be off. Not unusual for an 18 year old ruck prospect. I am hoping we have more insights on him and can allow him to slip and then we pounce late.
 
I'm not saying all bulls > all balanced mids......

Fyfe, Dusty, Wines, Cripps, Petracca, Danger

v

Pendles, Bont, Oliver, Neale etc


They're pretty close, but I have the bulls slightly ahead. And it's not like 10 bulls are going to be top before a balanced enter the mix. They sort of intermesh (because Walsh is better than SPP etc.)

Rowell or Anderson? Anderson. But again, not every bull is better than every balanced and vice versa.

I have elite bulls slightly above elite balanced mids, and the outsiders a fair way behind simply because they don't control outcomes. They're important, but cream on top important rather than I'm going to drag this side across the line/up the ladder important.
Happy to differ with you on this one.
 
It really does seem like we can go pick 2, best mid available, and feel comfortable that either a decent ruck or key forward will be available at pick 20. We should be able to get another midfield talent at pick 26. Liking how it's going.
This draft is not the draft to be pinning hopes on a key forward.
 
Tsatas is probably the one good prospect I’d want to avoid specifically for us tbh


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While I agree with your comment.

I think Tsatas is exactly the sort of player that the Pie Man, is generally attracted to.
He has speed good footskils and is a good size.

For me I just want to see a bit more of him in the heat of the battle because, I am not sold on his contested game.
It’s going to be an important two months for him and hopefully he gets back on the field and the sooner the better.

The VIC C v VIC M game has a lot riding on it for some of these kids that have unfortunately missed the Champs thus far.
 
This draft is not the draft to be pinning hopes on a key forward.
I'm more thinking a Broadbent, Barnett type in the ruck. Already both of them are taller than Williams and Jamo and more likely to develop into a player capable of leading the ruck. You never know with Keeler, and even Scully appearing to slip. Should be able to get one of those four you'd imagine.
 

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Witherden’s out of contract.
I stand corrected. I still think he offers useful depth and isn't being used to the best of his abilities. I've seen the mistakes, but I've also seen some pinpoint kicking into the centre square that's set us straight off to goal. I think, like Jetta, we will find a role for him eventually.
 
Broadbent has suffered from shin splints and I suspect he has grown some more. If he has grown as rumoured, no drama as his coordination will also be off. Not unusual for an 18 year old ruck prospect. I am hoping we have more insights on him and can allow him to slip and then we pounce late.
Funny thing this draft, and what a difference a year makes. If anyone had said last year we could walk away with Hewett and Broadbent without any trades we would done the proverbial "start the car!" and felt we were laughing all the way to the bank. Still don't believe it would b a terrible result.
 
Is Lachie Ash someone we should be tapping on the shoulder to see if he'd be interested in a move. Pick 4 in the draft to GWS, has obvious talent, 21 years of age, 25 games, not sure he would cost us that much. Think he only has one more year left on his contract.
His behind Kelly, Coniglio, Green, Hopper, Taranto, and Whitfield and has been played out of position because its hard to push these guys out (Credits in the bank....)
 
Is Lachie Ash someone we should be tapping on the shoulder to see if he'd be interested in a move. Pick 4 in the draft to GWS, has obvious talent, 21 years of age, 25 games, not sure he would cost us that much. Think he only has one more year left on his contract.
His behind Kelly, Coniglio, Green, Hopper, Taranto, and Whitfield and has been played out of position because its hard to push these guys out (Credits in the bank....)

He’s played 52 games in three seasons, seems pretty entrenched.
 
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