Corona virus and other pestilences. Poxes ‘n stuff. Part 5.

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edgie

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There's nothing anyone can do about it if they have young kids.

Every week there's a covid alert at pre-school. Every week. Open spaces, outdoors, vaccinated teachers and parents.

There's nothing that can be done about it without negatively impacting the development of infants.
 

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There's nothing anyone can do about it if they have young kids.

Every week there's a covid alert at pre-school. Every week. Open spaces, outdoors, vaccinated teachers and parents.

There's nothing that can be done about it without negatively impacting the development of infants.

My teenage kids caught it the week before last. My son missed out on his school camp despite having a ssore throat for 3 days but feeling fine by the Monday they were meant to go. He had a whole week last week of playing video games because there was no school work (because the entire year level was either on camp or doing out of school activities). Its ******* bullshit.
 

edgie

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My teenage kids caught it the week before last. My son missed out on his school camp despite having a ssore throat for 3 days but feeling fine by the Monday they were meant to go. He had a whole week last week of playing video games because there was no school work (because the entire year level was either on camp or doing out of school activities). Its ******* bullshit.
Doesn't sound like bullshit to me. A whole week of playing video games (and other teenage boy activites) sounds like heaven, to both teenage and current day edgie.

But my toddler, she needs the pre-school, the socialising, the time away from family, to develop. She's already got her issues, she needs all the chances she can get to catch up development wise.
 

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Hey FishingRick04 just wondering how this is going?
 

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My teenage kids caught it the week before last. My son missed out on his school camp despite having a ssore throat for 3 days but feeling fine by the Monday they were meant to go. He had a whole week last week of playing video games because there was no school work (because the entire year level was either on camp or doing out of school activities). Its ******* bullshit.
Eldest teen and wife are on the tail end at the moment. Youngest and I have avoided so far. All the High School sends most days now is a 'COVID update' of X numbers in this year, Y numbers in this. They used to provide classroom breakdowns, so you could at least know to grab a RAT if was in a class your kid was in and they had any symptoms. The current 'update' is completely pointless, when there are around 10 classes for each year level, with students all over the place. Still with masks for kids likely to go I expect it even if youngest and I avoid now, it's going to be impossible to avoid across the year, when schools are still the biggest spreading sites.

Youngest would love to be in your kids situation, since I've had him home the last week at the other end of the house from the infected, I've made him still do his schoolwork, since he's not sick :)
 

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Emergency powers that allowed South Australia's Police Commissioner Grant Stevens to impose COVID-19 lockdowns and mask and vaccine mandates have officially been rescinded. In addition, mask mandates for schools have been lifted.


"In South Australia we have been under an Emergency Management Declaration for 793 days but today that has concluded," Mr Malinauskas said.


 

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Emergency powers that allowed South Australia's Police Commissioner Grant Stevens to impose COVID-19 lockdowns and mask and vaccine mandates have officially been rescinded. In addition, mask mandates for schools have been lifted.


"In South Australia we have been under an Emergency Management Declaration for 793 days but today that has concluded," Mr Malinauskas said.


Janus
 

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Yeah, I've actually read the amendment to the Public Health Act.

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Do you see what this says? I'll explain it for you in layman's terms: nothing has changed. If something was legal under the auspices of the Emergency Declaration that was in force before the Emergency Act was rescinded, it's still considered legal under the South Australian Public Health Act.

This is the reason why Stevens got rid of the mandates for police officers and teachers before this legislation came into effect. Otherwise they would be stuck with a perpetual mandate for vaccinations too.
 

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Emergency powers that allowed South Australia's Police Commissioner Grant Stevens to impose COVID-19 lockdowns and mask and vaccine mandates have officially been rescinded. In addition, mask mandates for schools have been lifted.


"In South Australia we have been under an Emergency Management Declaration for 793 days but today that has concluded," Mr Malinauskas said.


Bbbbbut this thread said it was a slippery slope and they'd never hand the powers back and it would become a police state??
 

Lawnchair Larry

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68 CV19 dead australia wide today.
14 in SA.
Probably routine catchup after typically low weekend reports.
But still pretty high by Australian standards.
 

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Bbbbbut this thread said it was a slippery slope and they'd never hand the powers back and it would become a police state??

Freedom!

But I actually think Janus is on the right track here in relation to the detail of the changes, which mostly relate to covid-19 only.

Previously there have been two different mechanisms that were used to manage the government response to the covid pandemic : one was the Transition Committee and the other was a COVID-Ready Committee. Both were informal committees within the government - led by unelected public servants (although the final decision on restrictions still rested with the Marshall Government - who elected to take a back seat).

The changes the Malinauskas government have introduced is to bring that back within the formal cabinet structure (i.e. decisions made by elected politicians) through the existing Emergency Management Sub-Committee.

The Chief Public Health Officer, the Chief Executive of the Department for Health and Wellbeing and the police commissioner will continue to provide advice to that committee, as needed.

But it will be the Emergency Management Committee of Cabinet that will make the final decisions and make the advice which ultimately cabinet advises the Governor on them.

For admin reasons, as Janus outlined, the Chief Public Health Officer still has the power to issue directions in relation to COVID-19 under part 11 of the Public Health Act. Although Janus signficantly overstates the extent to which this gives the CPHO ongoing power in relation to the imposition of mandates. Things HAVE changed signficantly in relation to who and how statewide lockdowns are agreed, implemented and managed in the future. In particular I think it is fair to say that with greater leadership from elected Ministers, future decisions on any lockdowns etc. will not be implemented at short notice or without significant community consultation in other than extreme emergencies.

Hopefully someone in the media goes through the changes in detail to provide a more detailed and informative outline of the changes. If they do I'll post them here.

And for those 2 or 3 idiots in this thread who have persisted in making puerile uninformed statements about the seriousness of the pandemic, downplaying the tragic illness and loss of lives that it caused or acknowledging and the role played by lockdowns, mask mandates etc. in saving us from the worst of the pandemic for much of the past 2 years I think Premier Malinauskas summed it up best:

'There are South Australians who are alive today due to the work of Grant Stevens and Nicola Stevens'

But now we move on under new rules for managing our response to the pandemic. But not without at least reflecting on the sadness of those who have been directly affected by the 440 lives lost so far in South Australia due to covid, including 14 yesterday.
 
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I don't know how I managing to avoid it when half the school has had it. I might need to get my blood examined by the CSIRO as super blood. Or i am in an age bracket that doesn't do super spreading events.
 

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I don't know how I managing to avoid it when half the school has had it. I might need to get my blood examined by the CSIRO as super blood. Or i am in an age bracket that doesn't do super spreading events.
How do you know you haven't had it? Asymptomatic infections are still pretty common.
 

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Eldest teen and wife are on the tail end at the moment. Youngest and I have avoided so far. All the High School sends most days now is a 'COVID update' of X numbers in this year, Y numbers in this. They used to provide classroom breakdowns, so you could at least know to grab a RAT if was in a class your kid was in and they had any symptoms. The current 'update' is completely pointless, when there are around 10 classes for each year level, with students all over the place. Still with masks for kids likely to go I expect it even if youngest and I avoid now, it's going to be impossible to avoid across the year, when schools are still the biggest spreading sites.

Youngest would love to be in your kids situation, since I've had him home the last week at the other end of the house from the infected, I've made him still do his schoolwork, since he's not sick :)

Spare a thought for the teachers who are sitting ducks in all of this. You have acted responsibly but if parents kept kids with symptoms at home the problem may not be as bad. Of course some kids are asymptomatic and some parents have no means of keeping kids in isolation while they are at work and even stay at home parents may have problems getting kids to isolate for 7 days. Teachers are in a confined space with 20-40 kids and eventually they will be infected.
 

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