Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

[Contested Marx]

...now Bidens doing worse with the worst COVID policy in the world and pandemic history and nada...

This isn't remotely true

 

[Del165198]

I'd have thought statistically the vaccine is far more dangerous for complications than catching Covid for 30 and down, even 50 and down.

You'd have thought wrong then

 

[Del165198]

Someone in their 30s who is unvaccinated has about the same chance of ending up in hospital with covid as an 80 year old who is vaccinated.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-severe-outcomes-covid-vaccination-1.6178449

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_5.html

By CDC data, there are more people aged 18-49 admitted to hospital with covid than those in the 50-64 age group. Granted, 18-49 is a much larger age range, but to pretend being young makes you almost invulnerable is bullshit.

Those who are 30-39 are also twice as likely to be hospitalized with covid as those in the 18-29 age group and 4x more likely to die. Again CDC data.

If you get it and you're unvaccinated and 30 years old, there's a good chance it's not gonna be fun.

Just get the dang jab

 

[Harlott]

I'd have thought statistically the vaccine is far more dangerous for complications than catching Covid for 30 and down, even 50 and down.

So you post by wanting to be taken seriously, I assume, and saying how hard done by certain leaders, people contrary to the vaccinated, COVID skeptics are then you start off with “I’d have thought”

 

[Papa G]

Werent we talking about risk and statistica?

146 people per 100,000 30-39 were hospitalised on that 4 month period. No deaths. No data given whether those 146 had existing medical issues.

The article basically backs up the claim that COVID severely effecting a person in their 30s is statistically miniscule.

 

[Lagooner]

Werent we talking about risk and statistica?

146 people per 100,000 30-39 were hospitalised on that 4 month period. No deaths. No data given whether those 146 had existing medical issues.

The article basically backs up the claim that COVID severely effecting a person in their 30s is statistically miniscule.

So about 1 in 700 roughly?

You have an approx 1 in 200,000 chance of having a severe adverse reaction to one of the vaccines.

Seems pretty straightforward if you understand how numbers work.

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

So about 1 in 700 roughly?

You have an approx 1 in 200,000 chance of having a severe adverse reaction to one of the vaccines.

Seems pretty straightforward if you understand how numbers work.

1 in 200,000, statistic brought to you by Pfizer.


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[OneGreatClub]

This Melbourne restaurant is offering free delivery to immunocompromised residents

A Balinese restaurant in Melbourne is offering free deliveries to those most vulnerable to COVID-19 in a bid to keep its customers safe as Victoria emerges from lockdown.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[Papa G]

So about 1 in 700 roughly?

You have an approx 1 in 200,000 chance of having a severe adverse reaction to one of the vaccines.

Seems pretty straightforward if you understand how numbers work.

I've never been anti vax Pappagallo. I'm pro vax.

I have just consistently pointed out that COVID's effect on the general population outside the risk groups, ie the very old or the already sick has been grossly over stated and the measures taken to "beat it" have been disproportionate to the adverse downside for society and humanity as a whole.

 

[Lagooner]

1 in 200,000, statistic brought to you by Pfizer.


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Sounds like something an anti-vaxxer would say.

I've never been anti vax Pappagallo. I'm pro vax.

I have just consistently pointed out that COVID's effect on the general population outside the risk groups, ie the very old or the already sick has been grossly over stated and the measures taken to "beat it" have been disproportionate to the adverse downside for society and humanity as a whole.

Sounds like something an anti-vaxxer would say.

 

[Del165198]

Werent we talking about risk and statistica?

146 people per 100,000 30-39 were hospitalised on that 4 month period. No deaths. No data given whether those 146 had existing medical issues.

The article basically backs up the claim that COVID severely effecting a person in their 30s is statistically miniscule.

You realise that's 100k total population, not per 100k actually infected right?

So most of that 100k didn't have the virus. Let's say it was 5% of people in that age range got the virus. 146 hospitalisations out of 5,000 infected isn't so crash hot.

 

[Del165198]

I've never been anti vax Pappagallo. I'm pro vax.

I have just consistently pointed out that COVID's effect on the general population outside the risk groups, ie the very old or the already sick has been grossly over stated and the measures taken to "beat it" have been disproportionate to the adverse downside for society and humanity as a whole.

Doesn't civilised society as a whole have a duty of care to look after vulnerable folks? E.g. the chronically ill and the elderly?

Pretty sure that's kind of a foundation of modern society, much as you'd like to go Midsommar on anyone over 70.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Doesn't civilised society as a whole have a duty of care to look after vulnerable folks? E.g. the chronically ill and the elderly?

Pretty sure that's kind of a foundation of modern society, much as you'd like to go Midsommar on anyone over 70.

Papa G was likely celebrating when Covid 19 decimated Italy at the beginning of the pandemic getting rid of those pesky elders.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

Sounds like something an anti-vaxxer would say.



Sounds like something an anti-vaxxer would say.

It’s getting old & tired man. If you want it get it & be happy, stop pushing it like some drug dealer.


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[Contested Marx]

Never fails to disappoint

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

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Do you post for likes ? Have something to contribute, no ? Then va fanculo


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[Lagooner]

It’s getting old & tired man. If you want it get it & be happy, stop pushing it like some drug dealer.


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Yes vaccines are exactly the same as illicit drugs. At this rate though there’d probably be less resistance if Nicola was asking us to snort coke to protect the community.

 

[Papa G]

Yes vaccines are exactly the same as illicit drugs. At this rate though there’d probably be less resistance if Nicola was asking us to snort coke to protect the community.

I'd be up for that.

 

[Lagooner]

I'd be up for that.

Forget Moderna, gimme the Montana “vaccine.”

 

[JimmyBC]

It is funny when you have mates that you know have put every party drug on earth into their body at some point getting all google detective before they are comfortable with covid vaccines.

 

[Papa G]

Forget Moderna, gimme the Montana “vaccine.”

Say Hello to my little friend.....

 

[Marat]

This recent study suggests that both vaccinated and unvaccinated carry a similar viral load and can equally transmit the virus.

Research shows vaccinated as infectious as those without Covid-19 protection

Those figures appear to confirm Delta has a greater capability for breaching a vaccine’s defences, although it is no more effective at causing serious illness among the vaccinated

www.irishexaminer.com

 

[Lagooner]

This recent study suggests that both vaccinated and unvaccinated carry a similar viral load and can equally transmit the virus.

Research shows vaccinated as infectious as those without Covid-19 protection

Those figures appear to confirm Delta has a greater capability for breaching a vaccine’s defences, although it is no more effective at causing serious illness among the vaccinated

www.irishexaminer.com

Yeah pretty misleading. It specifically mentions that this only relates to “those positive with the coronavirus” but doesn’t detail the likelihood of being infected if vaccinated vs unvaccinated. Important omission wouldn’t you agree?

It does mention though that vaccinated people who do become positive are more likely to clear the infection faster, which suggests that they are infectious for a shorter period of time. That might not help those who live under the same roof but that probably reduces the chances of community transmission.

TL;DR - Vaccine good, article bad.

 

[StrappingTape]

This isn't remotely true

Really? What's a worse policy during a pandemic then throwing open your borders to 2million people+ in a year, not testing them and then releasing all over the country into communities positive with COVID-19 sans vaccine, whilst coming down hard on unvaccinated people that are your own citizens? Good luck.