Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

[StrappingTape]

Dude, open your horizons. You spend so much time in a circle jerk of group think that you have no idea how far down some conspiracy holes you go. So there's a post circling on Telegram, who gives a **** it's probably a troll, much like Q yet you are STILL convinced people who disagree with the group are all into this shit.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

The post seems pretty obviously a joke right?

 

[OneGreatClub]

Never makes sense to me that Big Pharma are trying go kill us off with vaccine, who will they sell their exorbitantly priced drugs when we all cark it?

Dude, open your horizons. You spend so much time in a circle jerk of group think that you have no idea how far down some conspiracy holes you go. So there's a post circling on Telegram, who gives a fu** it's probably a troll, much like Q yet you are STILL convinced people who disagree with the group are all into this sh*t.

Not people, just you.
I put it up for a bit of fun.
You always seem triggered by that stuff which makes me think it hits too close to home maybe?
Have you ever thought of scrolling past? You sad, misinformed, deluded fool.

 

[Marat]

Yeah pretty misleading. It specifically mentions that this only relates to “those positive with the coronavirus” but doesn’t detail the likelihood of being infected if vaccinated vs unvaccinated. Important omission wouldn’t you agree?

It does mention though that vaccinated people who do become positive are more likely to clear the infection faster, which suggests that they are infectious for a shorter period of time. That might not help those who live under the same roof but that probably reduces the chances of community transmission.

TL;DR - Vaccine good, article bad.

Article says that covid was passed onto 36% of unvaccinated household contacts compared to 25% of vaccinated. On those figures you have 1/3 more of a chance of being infected if you are unvaccinated. When infected both groups carry a similar viral load. Hardly seems to justify the frenzy of hate being directed toward the unvaccinated.

 

[StrappingTape]

So you post by wanting to be taken seriously, I assume, and saying how hard done by certain leaders, people contrary to the vaccinated, COVID skeptics are then you start off with “I’d have thought”

Well from memory a couple of months ago there was a 1/49k chance of myocarditis increasing down to about 1/15k for 15 year olds and more likely male. So yeah I'd have thought is based off some decent stats that just your heart getting inflammed or whatever the **** that does is pretty dangerous compared to what COVID might do to you in that age group.

This is just one potential side effect. It's not anti vax it's just weighing up the actual risk in the age group that I would think is lagging the most in vaccinations. I'd have no issue if a 22 year old dude said to me weighed it up and having sweet **** all chance of getting sick from either decided they were less risky to get the virus than then a vaccine. It's not rare either, I know of 2 cases of it just from friends of friends, so good luck getting their friend groups to take the vaccine after watching a mate get rushed to hospital with a ****ed heart. No amount of PR and Ad campaigns are going to change minds of friendship groups in similar situations.

 

[StrappingTape]

Never makes sense to me that Big Pharma are trying go kill us off with vaccine, who will they sell their exorbitantly priced drugs when we all cark it?

Not people, just you.
I put it up for a bit of fun.
You always seem triggered by that stuff which makes me think it hits too close to home maybe?
Have you ever thought of scrolling past? You sad, misinformed, deluded fool.

Misinformed from the guy who googles, half reads things and then thinks he's an expert? Again, you're the poster child on a degree in Google.

 

[Lagooner]

Article says that covid was passed onto 36% of unvaccinated household contacts compared to 25% of vaccinated. On those figures you have 1/3 more of a chance of being infected if you are unvaccinated. When infected both groups carry a similar viral load. Hardly seems to justify the frenzy of hate being directed toward the unvaccinated.

That’s great. You’re talking about high exposure close contact to a positive case. Those figures aren’t directly transposable to general community contact.

Also you are focusing on “similar viral load” without any nuance. That specifically refers to peak load and does not relate to time with the infection.

Details are important.

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

Yes vaccines are exactly the same as illicit drugs. At this rate though there’d probably be less resistance if Nicola was asking us to snort coke to protect the community.

Rack them up


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[OneGreatClub]

There are plenty of verified cases. Here's one for you. This guy's channel is great and very informative.

Yes . Is well documented that there are rare side effects. Poor fella.

Misinformed from the guy who googles, half reads things and then thinks he's an expert? Again, you're the poster child on a degree in Google.
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From someone who claims he has a degree in of all things, masks lol

 

[StrappingTape]

You I know right, how moronic of me to point out wearing a cut out of last season's sweater to wear on your face is doing anything at all against a virus spread. It's almost as if the science on masking was all agreed upon until it became politically expedient to claim the opposite is true around April 2020 even when it's self evident how absurd the "science" is.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[FishingRick04]

Are you really though? You gave 45 mins of your time to a random on YouTube

Driving is when I’ll listen to that stuff. I also agree with MrBrave, I’d like a balanced panel rather than stacked, but still some good take aways

 

[Harlott]

Well from memory a couple of months ago there was a 1/49k chance of myocarditis increasing down to about 1/15k for 15 year olds and more likely male. So yeah I'd have thought is based off some decent stats that just your heart getting inflammed or whatever the fu** that does is pretty dangerous compared to what COVID might do to you in that age group.

This is just one potential side effect. It's not anti vax it's just weighing up the actual risk in the age group that I would think is lagging the most in vaccinations. I'd have no issue if a 22 year old dude said to me weighed it up and having sweet fu** all chance of getting sick from either decided they were less risky to get the virus than then a vaccine. It's not rare either, I know of 2 cases of it just from friends of friends, so good luck getting their friend groups to take the vaccine after watching a mate get rushed to hospital with a f’ed heart. No amount of PR and Ad campaigns are going to change minds of friendship groups in similar situations.

www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/amp/

Six times more common according to this.

“If you’re focused on heart inflammation, the safer bet is to take the vaccine,” says Mendel Singer at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio, who helped carry out the study.”

 

[OneGreatClub]

You I know right, how moronic of me to point out wearing a cut out of last season's sweater to wear on your face is doing anything at all against a virus spread. It's almost as if the science on masking was all agreed upon until it became politically expedient to claim the opposite is true around April 2020 even when it's self evident how absurd the "science" is.

Your blanket comment is masks don’t work, and who here said anything about a cut out of a sweater?? And who said they are 100% effective. Of course they’re not.
People understand that masks aren’t the be all and end all but even if they reduce transmission by even 10 or 15%, along with all the other things we do, every bit helps.

As for my posting, I am just putting up things that interest me, some a bit funny, some not.
And where did I even say I am an expert?

I also post some of the conspiracy stuff. I actually do know people who have gone down the conspiracy rabbit hole so that stuff does interest me. I sadly lost a friend that way. I used to listen to him and discuss things a lot. I am sure a small portion of the population on BF might even lean that way.

And, I give my opinions. Opinions are debated on here.

Back to masks. Try to understand that you aren’t the fountain of information on all things masks, none of us are.
And your comment about things being ‘self evident’ doesn’t give your comments any more credibility.

So you say I only get information from Google? This is of course untrue but I ask you again, even though you conveniently never reply, how do you get YOUR information?
I assume the internet isn’t used by you? Yet here you are.

How do you form your opinions of this pandemic?
Do you pop in to university laboratories the world over and discuss with eminent scientists? Do your own scientific research? Do you watch Fox? YouTube? Channel
9? Channel 7? Forums? Friends? Radio? BitChute? ABC? Who are your experts?
Do you pull things out of thin air? Do you just ‘know?’

And how do you even know where I get my info from, who I discuss things with, who I listen to?
So I will tell you. I am married to a scientist, organic chemist. I worked in the health field for years. I wore masks for years, both surgical and fit tested N95. I listen to podcasts, both sides. I read a lot, books, discuss things with family, friends and acquaintances like we all do. Yes I watch a bit of tv and listen to ABC radio mainly, internet. I bring with me my own basic ideology and I do what most people do.
I have never said I am expert but these things just help me form my opinions.

Maybe I’m not balanced. Maybe we all suffer from confirmation bias, maybe even you.

A fair few of our friends are scientists or in the medical fields but I get the feeling you don’t trust science or scientists anyway?
I do definitely agree there is some dodgy science but you can’t throw a blanket over all science and call it wrong or political or corrupt.

So I post some links. So what? So do most people? So I post a lot Twitter stuff for fun or interest, so what?
Isn’t it in a way more honest to post something like that rather than re writing it pretending it’s my own or to state things are ‘self evident’ as some do?

If my Twitter posts annoy you, just ignore them and move on and have a disagreement with someone else.
I scroll past stuff that doesn’t interest me but you don’t seem to, instead you seem to give terse responses to everything I post. It has all become very personal on both sides.

I remember you were triggered way back when I mentioned stuff about Texas and Florida and since then you have not let go. You repeat word for word what DeSantis does in blaming immigrants for Covid spreading there.
Where do you get that info if not from the internet?

Where are your credible sources?
You have never ever said.

Anyway, back to talking about differences, I am reading this book at the moment, very balanced to both sides.



….let’s just give it a break or scroll past for a while hey. It’s getting out of hand. Never the Twain Shall Meet probably.

 

[davesnothere]

Can not believe people are still questioning something as obvious and simple as mask wearing to help reduce the spead of covid.

Evidence shows that, yes, masks prevent COVID-19 – and surgical masks are the way to go

Since the coronavirus first began spreading around the globe, people have debated how effective masks are at preventing COVID-19. A year and a half in, what does the evidence show?

theconversation.com

"People have been using masks to protect themselves from contracting diseases since the Manchurian outbreak of plague in 1910."

 

[Del165198]

 

[OneGreatClub]

Meanwhile at the Climate Summit Scomo is embarrassing us in front of the world.
What a party.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Victoria records 1036 local Covid-19 cases and 12 deaths.
NSW records 177 new local Covid-19 cases and one death.

 

[Del165198]

Victoria records 1036 local Covid-19 cases and 12 deaths.
NSW records 177 new local Covid-19 cases and one death.

The NSW numbers are pretty impressive. Given it's been a couple of weeks now since "freedom day" yet cases are still steady or going down. High vax rates working a treat.

 

[PAFC66]

Victoria records 1036 local Covid-19 cases and 12 deaths.
NSW records 177 new local Covid-19 cases and one death.

Massive drop in cases. Looks like we've seen off the peak. Hospitisations have dropped right off too.

 

[PAFC66]

Meanwhile at the Climate Summit Scomo is embarrassing us in front of the world.
What a party.

He'll lose his seat here.
Victorians have gone completely off the coalition. They barely get a handful of votes here anyway but even less so this time around. It all comes down to how much of a hit they've taken in NSW.

 

[Papa G]

Yeah I wouldn't say Dan is very well liked. The Coalition have been shit house in Vic. Guy turning fortunes around somewhat. The Hunchback is hated, but the Coalition need to do more to win.

Voters swing against Andrews but Labor in election-winning position

Daniel Andrews remains Victorian voters’ preferred premier but polling shows the return of Matthew Guy has halved the gap between the leaders of the state’s two major parties.

www.theage.com.au

Federally, it has been shown that Labor needs atleast a 3 point lead in opinion polls to be a chance of Victory. Higgins maybe lost to the Green/Labor ticket proving Doctors wives are idiots.

Despite Uncle Ruperts Herald Sun being the biggest selling paper in the country, Victorians blame Scomo over the Hunchback it seems. Victorians are pretty insular, so, hopefully they can all get out and celebrate at the State Funeral for Logie Winner and father of woman basher Burt Newton in style.

 

[PAFC66]

He's overwhelmingly liked in Victoria and has led the polls easily all the way through the last 18 months.

Lol Matthew guy? The same idiot that was smashed last election by Andrews? The Vic libs are absolutely no chance here, imagine having talent that shallow you have to turn back to him? Now that we'll have no restrictions at all in a few weeks and into next year, non engaged voters won't be voting liberal here. Independents will gain further votes on the fringes as plenty do hate Dan but labor will still win in a landslide whether it's Merlano or Dan leading ..

I don't really care for Burt , he did a lot of good things though.

If you had anyone remotely famous at all from Adelaide you'd hold a state funeral.

 

[Papa G]

Its the equivalent of holding a State Funeral for Anne Wills.

 

[PAFC66]

Its the equivalent of holding a State Funeral for Anne Wills.

Was Anne wills the face of Australian TV for decades?