Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

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OneGreatClub said:
Israel boosters seem to be working and not waning so far. The discussion about a potential fourth is only for the immunocompromised.
Covid19 vaccines are not the only type that require multiple shots. It is nothing new.
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Caarn 5 minutes ago they were on their 3rd, now talk of 4th. What an awesome vaccine. My gut feel is most aussies won’t have a bar of it.


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Watching the crowds at the cricket and soccer etc in the eastern states over the last week it’ll be embarrassing for Marshall when the footage shows chequerboard seating patterns, face masks and the gestapo enforcing it in 2 weeks time
 

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MadFan23 said:
More chance of dying from Covid than from the vaccine. More chance of ending up on a ventilator. More chance of ending up with serious health complications. Just get the bloody vaccine if you're medically able to do so.
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Give ppl a choice & they just mite. I assume your vaccinated, just curious as why it bothers you so that the next person isn’t ?


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Alberton Proud said:
Watching the crowds at the cricket and soccer etc in the eastern states over the last week it’ll be embarrassing for Marshall when the footage shows chequerboard seating patterns, face masks and the gestapo enforcing it in 2 weeks time
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Big whoop it's tippy go baby cricket

Government is doing us a favour to be honest
 
G3TWOTYAD3S3RV said:
Caarn 5 minutes ago they were on their 3rd, now talk of 4th. What an awesome vaccine. My gut feel is most aussies won’t have a bar of it.
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A genuine question, or more accurately, set of questions..

Before you come onto the BigFooty forum to post your outrage on something to do with covid, do you ever stop and google for an answer?

For example, do you ask questions when it comes to vaccines for covid-19, how they developed and why they need to be continually refined as the virus itself changes?

Do you then wonder what happened in response to other pandemics in recent history? How those viruses were spread and how the vaccines were developed to combat them were developed and have kept being developed ever since?

Take the 1918 influenza pandemic for example. The H1N1 virus spread before international air travel and trade was a thing and yet it is estimated that about half a billion people. or one third of the world's population eventually became infected during the first wave and killed approx 50 million people worldwide. That was over 100 years ago and the original virus which caused it has been synthesised and evaluated ever since in research laboratories across the world. And yet it still hasn't been eliminated and continues to pose a major threat with outbreaks continuing to cause death and disruption across the world, as the 2009 swine flu outbreak showed. Annual and biannual booster shots of modified flu vaccines continue to be developed and delivered across the world, including Australia.

And here we are in 2021, confronting a new virus that was only known to the world 2 years ago. A world where globalisation means almost every state and country across the globe is interconnected by trade and tourism and a virus can travel from one side of the world to the other in just a few hours. And where the continuing disparities in economic and health conditions between neighbouring countries mean a new variant (like Omicron) can arise in one country and be a global threat in just a matter of days.

Take the time to think about that for just a few minutes and maybe you wont be whining on a footy forum about how come recommendations about booster shot timeframes get revised.

And instead you might just think how bloody lucky we are that we have an interconnected science and research community that can develop new vaccines and vaccine protocols in such immensely short timeframes. /rant
 
StrappingTape said:
Hopefully it's like Tetanus, by about the 3rd one you have it's a lifetime protection
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Wow...

Tetanus-containing vaccines are recommended for children at 2, 4, 6 and 18 months. So there's 4 shots.

Then you're supposed to get another one at 4 years of age (5 shots).

Then another booster as an adolescent at 11-13 years of age. (6 shots).

And then a booster at 50 (7 shots) and 65 (8 shots) years of age.
.

Boosters are recommended every 10 years if you work in a field with increased risk of a tetanus causing injury. Every 5 years if its a high risk.

If you actually get a tetanus prone injury, and your last jab was more than 5 years ago, the doctor will likely give you a dose.

So much for 3 shots and life time protection...
 
All visitors to SA public hospitals and health care services will have to show proof of full vaccination from today, with the unvaccinated having to wear protective clothing under new rules issued by SA Health.

The guidelines, issued last night, also state that only one visitor will be able to see a patient for up to two hours at a time, with allowances made for paediatric patients and in certain circumstances when approved by the hospital or local health network.

All visitors to public hospitals must provide proof of TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccination status upon entry unless they have an approved medical exemption or are a child aged 12 or under.

Unvaccinated visitors will be admitted but will be required to wear Personal Protective Equipment while in the hospital. SA Health said that this would usually be a mask and eyewear.

“However, some settings with vulnerable patients, unvaccinated visitors will also need to wear a gown and gloves. If required, PPE will be supplied as you enter the facility,” it said.

“Unvaccinated visitors who visit a hospital will be required to undertake a COVID-19 test (PCR) 48 hours after their visit and subsequently and routinely thereafter if visiting regularly.”

SA Health said hospitals will support all patients having a baby to have a partner or designated support person present during the birth and appropriate PPE will be supplied by the hospital when required.
 
Duckimus Prime said:
Wow...

Tetanus-containing vaccines are recommended for children at 2, 4, 6 and 18 months. So there's 4 shots.

Then you're supposed to get another one at 4 years of age (5 shots).

Then another booster as an adolescent at 11-13 years of age. (6 shots).

And then a booster at 50 (7 shots) and 65 (8 shots) years of age.
.

Boosters are recommended every 10 years if you work in a field with increased risk of a tetanus causing injury. Every 5 years if its a high risk.

If you actually get a tetanus prone injury, and your last jab was more than 5 years ago, the doctor will likely give you a dose.

So much for 3 shots and life time protection...
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Oh, I was lied to by my GP then.
 
Festerz said:
A genuine question, or more accurately, set of questions..

Before you come onto the BigFooty forum to post your outrage on something to do with covid, do you ever stop and google for an answer?

For example, do you ask questions when it comes to vaccines for covid-19, how they developed and why they need to be continually refined as the virus itself changes?

Do you then wonder what happened in response to other pandemics in recent history? How those viruses were spread and how the vaccines were developed to combat them were developed and have kept being developed ever since?

Take the 1918 influenza pandemic for example. The H1N1 virus spread before international air travel and trade was a thing and yet it is estimated that about half a billion people. or one third of the world's population eventually became infected during the first wave and killed approx 50 million people worldwide. That was over 100 years ago and the original virus which caused it has been synthesised and evaluated ever since in research laboratories across the world. And yet it still hasn't been eliminated and continues to pose a major threat with outbreaks continuing to cause death and disruption across the world, as the 2009 swine flu outbreak showed. Annual and biannual booster shots of modified flu vaccines continue to be developed and delivered across the world, including Australia.

And here we are in 2021, confronting a new virus that was only known to the world 2 years ago. A world where globalisation means almost every state and country across the globe is interconnected by trade and tourism and a virus can travel from one side of the world to the other in just a few hours. And where the continuing disparities in economic and health conditions between neighbouring countries mean a new variant (like Omicron) can arise in one country and be a global threat in just a matter of days.

Take the time to think about that for just a few minutes and maybe you wont be whining on a footy forum about how come recommendations about booster shot timeframes get revised.

And instead you might just think how bloody lucky we are that we have an interconnected science and research community that can develop new vaccines and vaccine protocols in such immensely short timeframes. /rant
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You do realise that you have to question science, it’s how it’s done. Scientists welcome it. So I’m challenging them to develop a vaccine that actually works & safer to use. I don’t think the word is ready for 3 monthly boosters, I know I’m not.


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Holden Hillbilly said:
All visitors to SA public hospitals and health care services will have to show proof of full vaccination from today, with the unvaccinated having to wear protective clothing under new rules issued by SA Health.

The guidelines, issued last night, also state that only one visitor will be able to see a patient for up to two hours at a time, with allowances made for paediatric patients and in certain circumstances when approved by the hospital or local health network.

All visitors to public hospitals must provide proof of TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccination status upon entry unless they have an approved medical exemption or are a child aged 12 or under.

Unvaccinated visitors will be admitted but will be required to wear Personal Protective Equipment while in the hospital. SA Health said that this would usually be a mask and eyewear.

“However, some settings with vulnerable patients, unvaccinated visitors will also need to wear a gown and gloves. If required, PPE will be supplied as you enter the facility,” it said.

“Unvaccinated visitors who visit a hospital will be required to undertake a COVID-19 test (PCR) 48 hours after their visit and subsequently and routinely thereafter if visiting regularly.”

SA Health said hospitals will support all patients having a baby to have a partner or designated support person present during the birth and appropriate PPE will be supplied by the hospital when required.
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So take your vax glasses off for a sec, anyone see anything wrong with this ?


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Holden Hillbilly said:
All visitors to SA public hospitals and health care services will have to show proof of full vaccination from today, with the unvaccinated having to wear protective clothing under new rules issued by SA Health.

The guidelines, issued last night, also state that only one visitor will be able to see a patient for up to two hours at a time, with allowances made for paediatric patients and in certain circumstances when approved by the hospital or local health network.

All visitors to public hospitals must provide proof of TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccination status upon entry unless they have an approved medical exemption or are a child aged 12 or under.

Unvaccinated visitors will be admitted but will be required to wear Personal Protective Equipment while in the hospital. SA Health said that this would usually be a mask and eyewear.

“However, some settings with vulnerable patients, unvaccinated visitors will also need to wear a gown and gloves. If required, PPE will be supplied as you enter the facility,” it said.

“Unvaccinated visitors who visit a hospital will be required to undertake a COVID-19 test (PCR) 48 hours after their visit and subsequently and routinely thereafter if visiting regularly.”

SA Health said hospitals will support all patients having a baby to have a partner or designated support person present during the birth and appropriate PPE will be supplied by the hospital when required.
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In before a fully vaxxed super-spreader infects a ward of fully vaxxed patients. But yeah let's publicly harangue people for their private medical choices, that's sure to work a treat just like it has in *checks notes* no other country in the whole wide world! :drunk:
 

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Holden Hillbilly said:
The guidelines, issued last night, also state that only one visitor will be able to see a patient for up to two hours at a time
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Imagine how this conversation would go down whilst you're visiting a family member in hospital who is being treated for cancer or is possibly dieing of cancer ...

"Oh sorry, you've been here for two hours and are now required to leave because Premier Marshmallow and that idiot who thought you could catch covid off a pizza box or a football say if you stay in this room any longer than two hours you'll increase your chances of transmitting the virus. By the way, the fact that everyone in this room is vaccinated and in fact 90% of people in the whole state are vaccinated doesn't matter at all."

THIS. IS. NOT. SCIENCE.
 
If they really want to get people vaccinated, start decreasing the restrictions on vaccinated people and increasing the restrictions on unvaccinated people. At this point the difference is * all.
 
It's time to start decreasing restrictions on vaccinated people to increase the incentive to get vaccinated.
But then more people might get COVID!
Yes. That risk exists today, it will exist in a year's time, it will exist in ten year's time. We can't restrict people forever.
But we're not ready for that yet!
Okay. When will we be ready?
When vaccination rates have increased.
Great. Well then it's time to start decreasing restrictions on vaccinated people to increase the incentive to get vaccinated.
 
G3TWOTYAD3S3RV said:
You do realise that you have to question science, it’s how it’s done. Scientists welcome it. So I’m challenging them to develop a vaccine that actually works & safer to use. I don’t think the word is ready for 3 monthly boosters, I know I’m not.


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Scientists welcome questions by their peers, not plebs on the internet who "did their research" on YouTube
 
Covid science is very hard to distinguish from covid politics. It's also important to listen to actual infectious disease specialists rather than general doctors weighing in on areas outside their expertise.

For example, the head of the AMA in WA has told the government not to open until 5-11 year olds have been vaccinated. What's this man's area of expertise you ask? He's a plastic surgeon. Dr Nick Coatsworth, an actual infectious diseases physician, disagrees.
 
G3TWOTYAD3S3RV said:
So first hand info on vaccine reactions not good enough ? You know students (plebs) use the internet for their studies right ?


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Students use peer reviewed studies and medical journals on the internet. They don't listen to Joe Rogan podcasts and videos on YouTube
 
TeeKray said:
Covid science is very hard to distinguish from covid politics. It's also important to listen to actual infectious disease specialists rather than general doctors weighing in on areas outside their expertise.

For example, the head of the AMA in WA has told the government not to open until 5-11 year olds have been vaccinated. What's this man's area of expertise you ask? He's a plastic surgeon. Dr Nick Coatsworth, an actual infectious diseases physician, disagrees.
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WA are cooked
 
sobrave said:
Students use peer reviewed studies and medical journals on the internet. They don't listen to Joe Rogan podcasts and videos on YouTube
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It’s on the internet nonetheless, there’s great info on the web, you just need to sift through the bullshit. There’s countless videos on YouTube advocating vaccines from experts from around the globe, bullshit too ?


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