Coronavirus

[Seeds]

Or you have the usual government departments filled with insufficient over paid fat cats

Workers in govt departments earn less than they would in the private sector for the same work.

 

[kranky al]

Or you have the usual government departments filled with insufficient over paid fat cats

Soooooo

we need more of them?

we have an insufficient number of fat cats.

see this is a classic case of why right wing governments defund public schooling. They need dumb c¥^+’s who swallow their propaganda and who forget the lies they were told last week when they dont match the facts a little too obviously.

Case in point:

 

[NSWCROW]

They bag her for thinking she is some self
Important horse face lecturing the world, yet at the same time she has near destroyed her own country! Economically, industry and affordability!

she is an arse clown

grow up little boy


Geez

 

[Sweet Jesus]

sounds like the government will now do a fiscal package following my recommendations and help people who are actually being impacted by the virus economically rather then waste money on people are the least affected economically.

Rather than.

 

[HardcoreGeelongFan]

We could just quarantine everyone worldwide indoors for a month and shoot anyone that comes outside. Virus will disappear

 

[Juddism]

this is obscene...****ing get the army and shut this shit down for all our sakes.

 

[kranky al]

This is good reading:

 

[HardcoreGeelongFan]

I can't believe they waited until community transmission was confirmed to shut the borders. It's almost like they wanted to make sure it got here

 

[HardcoreGeelongFan]

Never fear, the private sector will save us.

They're probably packing their triangle UFO's with stuff as we speak, ready to bail if things get dangerous for them!

 

[Juddism]

I cannot believe the federal govt has allowed 4 cruise ships to dock in Australian ports this weekend..all with known cases on board, and not one person coming off will be tested, are we ****ing serious here?

 

[HardcoreGeelongFan]

Why are so many people outraged over Bondi beach?

It's not like we closed auctions in Bondi when that affected millenials? We didn't even let them into house opens an hour earlier everyday! No wonder young people don't give a shit I agree with them, boomers did absolutely nothing to help first homebuyers, only marginalized them and sold out to overseas buyers.

Let's marginalize our old indoors and finally live. Everything will be cheaper with them indoors too

 

[HardcoreGeelongFan]

I cannot believe the federal govt has allowed 4 cruise ships to dock in Australian ports this weekend..all with known cases on board, and not one person coming off will be tested, are we ******* serious here?

You get what you vote for. Western world is run by right wing morons because old people find them funny. Most millenials voted greens and alp

 

[campbell]

I cannot believe the federal govt has allowed 4 cruise ships to dock in Australian ports this weekend..all with known cases on board, and not one person coming off will be tested, are we ******* serious here?

That’s nsw gov....
Better send em alltodarwin or christmas Island to isolate imo.

 

[kranky al]

<<<
Thanks for sharing John Lambie
For those offended by a term that was on my previous post, I’ve taken this out.

Here's a laypersons scientific explanation that I found useful in my attempt to understand the pandemic.

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in November 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not cool right now.

Stay home folks... and share this with those that just are not catching on. >>>>

 

[Over The Post]

I'm in a cul-de-sac near a railway station. Every morning the entire street is full of commuters' parked cars by 8am.

Wandered out yesterday at 9:30 and there were three cars, and two of those were from a neighbour.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

We’re in a half-arsed isolation situation where many people are making an effort but it may not work because there’s so many holes in it and so many people who just don’t get it.

The Aus govt needs to show some ****ing leadership. It’s just so clear how utterly incompetent they are.

Shut the borders immediately. Those that do come in need to be temperature tested and quarantined in a govt facility if required.

Shut meeting places - pubs, restaurants, shopping centres, cinemas.

Shut workplaces.

Only exemptions for essential services - health, groceries and supply chain, petrol, emergency tradesmen, communications, utilities, emergency services.

Shut schools. Those workers in essential services with school-aged children need to be able to nominate a carer who will be paid a short-term government wage to look after their children. Workers in other industries will be home anyway.

Give police the power to arrest those gathering or loitering in public places (people are free to move about if they have a purpose). Those doing the right thing shouldn’t have their efforts wasted by ignorant morons.

Get on the ****in TV Morrison, you useless campaigner, at the same time every single night and try being a ****ing leader, address people about the seriousness of things and how they’re progressing.

Hopefully these measures will knock it on the head within weeks and can be lifted. After that, borders remain closed until a cure or vaccine is available. We’re lucky to be an island and should take advantage of that.

None of this is easy but can be done and the more of it we do, the quicker we can deal with this and start the recovery.

 

[Hawk Dork]

I was reading an article that was saying upto 40% of Italians are not totally shutting themselves down and that's the reason for the spread
It works well when the population are compliant be that because that's the way they are naturally or they are afraid of their government.
Seems the countries who are full of rule breakers are going to suffer

Why Italy’s coronavirus death toll continues to spike despite lockdown – and what the UK can learn

Lack of clarity and a frustrated population means rules not always followed, Federica Marsi reports from Milan

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Cooldude]

The spreading only happens if you are incompetent about it

Places like Hong Kong and Taiwan are right next to China, they have collectively worn masks, provide adequate hand sanitizers, wash and disinfect the streets, test everyone coming into their borders or shut it down. They have been able to keep it well contained

Then you look at how useless the western governments are and how disorganised/apathetic the average citizens are, there's no wonder why it's exploding in those areas.

 

[Juddism]

We’re in a half-arsed isolation situation where many people are making an effort but it may not work because there’s so many holes in it and so many people who just don’t get it.

The Aus govt needs to show some ******* leadership. It’s just so clear how utterly incompetent they are.

Shut the borders immediately. Those that do come in need to be temperature tested and quarantined in a govt facility if required.

Shut meeting places - pubs, restaurants, shopping centres, cinemas.

Shut workplaces.

Only exemptions for essential services - health, groceries and supply chain, petrol, emergency tradesmen, communications, utilities, emergency services.

Shut schools. Those workers in essential services with school-aged children need to be able to nominate a carer who will be paid a short-term government wage to look after their children. Workers in other industries will be home anyway.

Give police the power to arrest those gathering or loitering in public places (people are free to move about if they have a purpose). Those doing the right thing shouldn’t have their efforts wasted by ignorant morons.

Get on the fu**in TV Morrison, you useless campaigner, at the same time every single night and try being a ******* leader, address people about the seriousness of things and how they’re progressing.

Hopefully these measures will knock it on the head within weeks and can be lifted. After that, borders remain closed until a cure or vaccine is available. We’re lucky to be an island and should take advantage of that.

None of this is easy but can be done and the more of it we do, the quicker we can deal with this and start the recovery.

The Aust govt has a tricky situation...if we shut down the housing market collapses and that’s the end of it. They will not be able to recover the economy for years to come. That said, it needs to be done to weed out this pandemic.

It’s a nasty cycle ahead of us.

I arrived on 13/3 before new measures brought in and there was absolutely zero testing or temp checks..I passed Taipei on the way home and they grabbed me out of the line at TPE and made me test for it.

#scottyfrommarketing needs to be like Xi at this very moment in our history, we need to be dictated to without fear or favour because the Australian public are too worried about the economy to care about their health, both of which are set to burn.

And bring in the ****ing military to enforce it.

...now, any of you science types out there?! I am going to explain what I had in December because I am dead certain I have had this.

2 weeks before Xmas I am fine but I travelled outside of Victoria to Brisbane and so on...

Few days before Xmas I had the sniffles etc. I thought nothing of it. (I work with a lot of people that come and go from China)
Xmas day, felt a bit sinus’ clogged.
Boxing Day, I went to 1000 steps, had a few issues breathing, took a dose of the ventolin and was good...that day was quite cool.
27th I felt pretty rotten..I went to the Dr in the morning, was drained and felt like the flu was coming. I went early in the morning and it was quite cool.
27th afternoon and it was all over, my head was pounding, my breathing was extremely tight. I was boiling hot.
28th, incredibly hard hit, I couldn’t move because I could barely breath.

This lasted until early in the New Year, each day I thought I’d turned the corner it knocked me back down again...

3.1.20 and I finally started to sweat and the fever broke. It didn’t break hard, just small sweats in the night that lasted for a week. I visited the Dr and he got me on the steroids, antibiotics etc etc...

Fast forward a week and I was back at the Dr because the cough was deep and causing me issues..he ordered a blood test, White cell count etc.

11.1 and I get the call from the Dr and he says come immediately..so I did. He said that my white cell count was high and that whatever I have It is working overtime to get rid of, so he gave me another dose of antibiotics.


Fast forward to Feb & March and I still have the cough and lung inflammation and it is still producing mucous, though it is clear now. It made me wonder what on earth it is that I had/have...and if this is Covid or just a bad hit of the 2019 flu.

I would be very interested to find out...Especially after the Dr said, “of all the cases I’ve seen today yours is the worst.”

 

[Over The Post]

Go for an antibodies test as soon as its available.

 

[Seeds]

The Aust govt has a tricky situation...if we shut down the housing market collapses and that’s the end of it. They will not be able to recover the economy for years to come. That said, it needs to be done to weed out this pandemic.

It’s a nasty cycle ahead of us.

I arrived on 13/3 before new measures brought in and there was absolutely zero testing or temp checks..I passed Taipei on the way home and they grabbed me out of the line at TPE and made me test for it.

#scottyfrommarketing needs to be like Xi at this very moment in our history, we need to be dictated to without fear or favour because the Australian public are too worried about the economy to care about their health, both of which are set to burn.

And bring in the ******* military to enforce it.

...now, any of you science types out there?! I am going to explain what I had in December because I am dead certain I have had this.

2 weeks before Xmas I am fine but I travelled outside of Victoria to Brisbane and so on...

Few days before Xmas I had the sniffles etc. I thought nothing of it. (I work with a lot of people that come and go from China)
Xmas day, felt a bit sinus’ clogged.
Boxing Day, I went to 1000 steps, had a few issues breathing, took a dose of the ventolin and was good...that day was quite cool.
27th I felt pretty rotten..I went to the Dr in the morning, was drained and felt like the flu was coming. I went early in the morning and it was quite cool.
27th afternoon and it was all over, my head was pounding, my breathing was extremely tight. I was boiling hot.
28th, incredibly hard hit, I couldn’t move because I could barely breath.

This lasted until early in the New Year, each day I thought I’d turned the corner it knocked me back down again...

3.1.20 and I finally started to sweat and the fever broke. It didn’t break hard, just small sweats in the night that lasted for a week. I visited the Dr and he got me on the steroids, antibiotics etc etc...

Fast forward a week and I was back at the Dr because the cough was deep and causing me issues..he ordered a blood test, White cell count etc.

11.1 and I get the call from the Dr and he says come immediately..so I did. He said that my white cell count was high and that whatever I have It is working overtime to get rid of, so he gave me another dose of antibiotics.


Fast forward to Feb & March and I still have the cough and lung inflammation and it is still producing mucous, though it is clear now. It made me wonder what on earth it is that I had/have...and if this is Covid or just a bad hit of the 2019 flu.

I would be very interested to find out...Especially after the Dr said, “of all the cases I’ve seen today yours is the worst.”

Xi hasnt got rid of the virus.his shutdown in the end was probably a waste of time that just delayed the inevitable.

 

[Seeds]

So in the biggest stimulus since world war 2 is their any support for let go workers? It seems only businesses benefit and they benefit even if they fire all their workers.

 

[nylexbandit]

So in the biggest stimulus since world war 2 is their any support for let go workers? It seems only businesses benefit and they benefit even if they fire all their workers.

Even in times like this they can’t let go of their bloody mindedness.
Not to mention those that had already lost jobs that are seen as less deserving, even though this guarantees they can’t get another job

 

[Bunk Moreland]

The Aust govt has a tricky situation...if we shut down the housing market collapses and that’s the end of it. They will not be able to recover the economy for years to come. That said, it needs to be done to weed out this pandemic.

It’s a nasty cycle ahead of us.

I arrived on 13/3 before new measures brought in and there was absolutely zero testing or temp checks..I passed Taipei on the way home and they grabbed me out of the line at TPE and made me test for it.

#scottyfrommarketing needs to be like Xi at this very moment in our history, we need to be dictated to without fear or favour because the Australian public are too worried about the economy to care about their health, both of which are set to burn.

And bring in the ******* military to enforce it.

...now, any of you science types out there?! I am going to explain what I had in December because I am dead certain I have had this.

2 weeks before Xmas I am fine but I travelled outside of Victoria to Brisbane and so on...

Few days before Xmas I had the sniffles etc. I thought nothing of it. (I work with a lot of people that come and go from China)
Xmas day, felt a bit sinus’ clogged.
Boxing Day, I went to 1000 steps, had a few issues breathing, took a dose of the ventolin and was good...that day was quite cool.
27th I felt pretty rotten..I went to the Dr in the morning, was drained and felt like the flu was coming. I went early in the morning and it was quite cool.
27th afternoon and it was all over, my head was pounding, my breathing was extremely tight. I was boiling hot.
28th, incredibly hard hit, I couldn’t move because I could barely breath.

This lasted until early in the New Year, each day I thought I’d turned the corner it knocked me back down again...

3.1.20 and I finally started to sweat and the fever broke. It didn’t break hard, just small sweats in the night that lasted for a week. I visited the Dr and he got me on the steroids, antibiotics etc etc...

Fast forward a week and I was back at the Dr because the cough was deep and causing me issues..he ordered a blood test, White cell count etc.

11.1 and I get the call from the Dr and he says come immediately..so I did. He said that my white cell count was high and that whatever I have It is working overtime to get rid of, so he gave me another dose of antibiotics.


Fast forward to Feb & March and I still have the cough and lung inflammation and it is still producing mucous, though it is clear now. It made me wonder what on earth it is that I had/have...and if this is Covid or just a bad hit of the 2019 flu.

I would be very interested to find out...Especially after the Dr said, “of all the cases I’ve seen today yours is the worst.”

Morrison is the biggest issue. He is an absolutely appalling leader - I cannot state that strongly enough.

I feel it’s beyond partisan politics. This bloke has failed the leadership test at almost every turn. I’d personally prefer Abbott as leader at the moment.

 

[Gough]

Morrison is the biggest issue. He is an absolutely appalling leader - I cannot state that strongly enough.

I feel it’s beyond partisan politics. This bloke has failed the leadership test at almost every turn. I’d personally prefer Abbott as leader at the moment.

The Libs have been a policy free zone beyond attack the opposition for at least the last five years and have been richly rewarded for it. It's little wonder that when called upon to actually govern they've come up wanting.