Could massive changes be the worst thing we do?

[rizzo]

Here have been some proposed Changes:

Sack the coaches and assistants
Over throw the board
Trade some of our good players for draft picks

Hows all of this going to benefit the club. I must admit im not the biggest fan of bomber, but hes gotten us to finals football and the wizz fizz cup. We dont no if Creswall or Longmire can cut it as afl senior coaches, so why would we take the risk when we have a fairly good list.

The board have been super, and anyone who even tries to over throw them are absolutely pathetic. We wouldnt be bitching and moaning right now if it wasnt for Cookies and Costa. Heck we might even be the Western Suburbs cats by now

Why would we trade our ready made players for draft picks. Players like ling, enright, Johno and Kelly have all been put around for relatively **** picks. I mean wow we get another late first rounder and a bundle full of second rounders. The draft is a gamble, a player picked up late could be just as good if not better then a player picked in the first round. Bartram? Grant? Raines? Symes? Pearce? none of these were first rounders. but players like Fiora were. IMHO looking back i wouldnt be trading Kelly Johnno etc, unless we got a pretty good offer.

If we trade away some of our talented players we lose alot of our depth. Putting us in a worse possition then before. Then we run the risk of a player drafted at pick 15 or whatever turning into a complete dud.

People need to remember we have played super football for 2 seasons, + the wizard cup and the first 2 rounds. We have had a totally shocking year this year, but lets put it into perspective. Just because we dont play well for one year, doesnt mean we should go into panic stations and trade absolutely everyone, sack everyone and overthrow the board. Because next season we will be back.

So how about we make some smaller changes Sack Lovell and Hinkley, and only trade players who:
A) Want to Leave
B) Arent required members anymore (Kent, Koula etc)

Trading players like Johnno and Kelly isnt the way to go. If we got rid of them they wil bite us in the ass. Perspective is all we need.

 

[finrod]

Trading players like Johnno and Kelly isnt the way to go. If we got rid of them they wil bite us in the ass. Perspective is all we need.

There's always the risk that trading players will come back to bite us on the ass, but there is also the risk that they continue to play **** for us and lose their trade value altogether...

 

[Number21]

Extremely good points and thinking about it I would have to agree. I think we probably should keep Johnson and Kelly, espescially Johnson. Although after the pathetic season we had someone has to go and I would have thought the assistants would be the most likely candidates.

 

[rizzo]

There's always the risk that trading players will come back to bite us on the ass, but there is also the risk that they continue to play **** for us and lose their trade value altogether...

Thats true, but i think we have seen enough talent to hold onto them both.

Johnno is a match winner, make no mistake. Apart from Gaz and Chappy we dont have any other forward capable of winning a match off his own boot. (maybe otto if he can play in the forward line alot more.) We cant just go trading these players for a 2nd rounder / late first rounder.

Kelly is an interesting one though. Hes a quality player and now is up against players like Ling, Bartel, Corey, Enright, Prissa, Stokes, Varcoe etc. However he is a pretty classy player none the less. I think we could invent him into an attack wingman. Have him running down a wing and kicking long to the forwards. Instead of having him in the middle. Its obvious he isnt good defensively so give him a try at that sort of a role, where he doesnt have to work as hard defensively than in the middle. If not, i can see him become a fairly useful HFF who can run up the ground.

That being said, there are going to be some trades that will be done.

If makie wants to leave then id be looking at either:
Mackie (at adelaide) For either:
Darren Pffiefer
Medium forward/defender who played six games of league football with Norwood in the SANFL last year. Very good ball winner, has great courage and is a strong mark, winning All-Australian U18 honours this year. His standing vertical jump of 72cm was ranked No 1 at the NAB AFL Draft Camp which indicates his power and agility also ranked in the top 20%. From Birdwood FC.

Richard Douglas
Medium defender or midfielder with terrific workrate, clean hands and footy smarts. Won TAC Coaches Award this year, Victoria Metro U18's and selection TAC Cup Team of the Year. Topped off a great year winning Calder Cannons Best and Fairest Award. Former Assumption College Best and Fairest. Super impressive at NAB AFL Draft Camp with speed agility and endurance all in the top 15% categories. From Broadford FC.

Or there first rounder.

From Port:
a 3rd rounder +
Fabian Deluca
Will continue focusing on the development of all areas of his game and adding bulk to his 203cm frame. The retirement of Primus has elevated him into the likely third choice ruck on the Power’s list. Played the majority of last season in the Sturt reserves before making some league appearances late in the season. Will no doubt have new ruck coach Primus by his side as he looks to play regular senior


Kent looks like he wants to head west, so id be infavour of Trading him for Michael Gardiner.

Wojinski from rumors ive heard may also not be at the club. Essendon have always been pretty keen on him so how about.
How about Dean Soloman for him? Solly will be looking for a new team youd think. Hes stil got some years left, and we need another hard at itdefender. Sheedy has played him as a tall, but hell definaltly be a small with us, Have him in a BP.

Other players we could lose:
Paul Koula
Tom Lonergan (if he even plays again)
Mathew McCarthy
Charlie Gardiner
Spencer
H
Byrnes

 

[volcboy]

While I agree with some of the content of your post, I would reply to the title:

No, massive changes could not be the worst thing we do. Making no changes after the s. hi. t we put up with this year would be much worse.

Well considered changes should have already been made - this extended review smacks of board indecision and infighting. They should work it out, otherwise more petitions will end up being signed.

 

[d_henderson1810]

SOme changes that need to be made are:-

A new coach or keep Bomber, but he has to do some things differently. First, he has show some emotion in the box and out on the ground (he seems too laid-back and casual), he needs to have "a bit of bastard" in him and kick players into gear. Thirdly, he needs to stop talking us up, as it only creates unrealistic expectations. Fourthly, he needs to try people in different positions. I think that He should use Jarrod Rooke as "lock-down" "Paul Licuria" type tagger, rather than have him play off his opponent. He should use Josh Hunt on the wing or up forward, as Hunt is not accountable enough in the backline.Finally, he needs to stop being chummy with all the players and make hard decisions. I think that we should off-load eight players, and I don't know if Thompson has the stomach to get rid of anyone.

Also, I think that we should make player cuts. This is meant to be a rich draft, and we could pick up four or five potential stars. We should trade for picks, and get rid of Kingsley, Playfair, the retired Riccardi, Koulouritious, Matthew Spencer, Gardiner, Will Slade and maybe trade James Kelly while he still has value. We can then get Tom Hawkins, and seven other young, enthusiastic kids who are desperate and will bust their gut, since their senior spots aren't guaranteed.If we get any recycled players, the only one I would be interested in is Daniel Bradshaw from Brisbane. If we had him and Hawkins added to our forward line, it would strengthen it greatly.


Changes need to be made. Geelong are accussed of accepting mediocrity, so we need to build a team not just play finals, but win flags. Only then will we be taken seriously as a force to be reckoned with. Nothing less can suffice anymore. If any player won't commit themselves fully to a flag, then they should be out.

 

[cattalist]

SOme changes that need to be made are:-

A new coach or keep Bomber, but he has to do some things differently. First, he has show some emotion in the box and out on the ground (he seems too laid-back and casual), he needs to have "a bit of bastard" in him and kick players into gear. Thirdly, he needs to stop talking us up, as it only creates unrealistic expectations. Fourthly, he needs to try people in different positions. I think that He should use Jarrod Rooke as "lock-down" "Paul Licuria" type tagger, rather than have him play off his opponent. He should use Josh Hunt on the wing or up forward, as Hunt is not accountable enough in the backline.Finally, he needs to stop being chummy with all the players and make hard decisions. I think that we should off-load eight players, and I don't know if Thompson has the stomach to get rid of anyone.

Also, I think that we should make player cuts. This is meant to be a rich draft, and we could pick up four or five potential stars. We should trade for picks, and get rid of Kingsley, Playfair, the retired Riccardi, Koulouritious, Matthew Spencer, Gardiner, Will Slade and maybe trade James Kelly while he still has value. We can then get Tom Hawkins, and seven other young, enthusiastic kids who are desperate and will bust their gut, since their senior spots aren't guaranteed.If we get any recycled players, the only one I would be interested in is Daniel Bradshaw from Brisbane. If we had him and Hawkins added to our forward line, it would strengthen it greatly.


Changes need to be made. Geelong are accussed of accepting mediocrity, so we need to build a team not just play finals, but win flags. Only then will we be taken seriously as a force to be reckoned with. Nothing less can suffice anymore. If any player won't commit themselves fully to a flag, then they should be out.

I agree wholeheartedly. Added to that I think Bomber needs to have the courage to play some of the kids waiting in the wings. Look what this year has unearthed - stokes, prismall. These are great kids that should IMO have been tried earlier, Enough of leaving players in when they have clearly underperformed! I will always think of Lonergans desperation to forge a place for himself in the side when he was injured, do some of these players that take their positions for granted deserve to be there???Why persist with kingsley and Kelly for as long as he did?

 

[Unwritten_Law]

The only reason people want to overthrow the board is because they, the board, want to or are at least making noises in the media, about keeping Bomber on.

That's the big change that is required with Lovell and Hinkley following him out the door. If it happens I would accept minimal changes to the list, cutting Koula, McCarthy, Gardiner etc and giving the players we have the chance to turn it around under a new coach with fresh ideas.

If we keep Bomber on we are just treading water for a year with a couple of players, the likes of Kelly who have gone backwards at an alarming rate in particular, in danger of drowning.

 

[Partridge]

Hows all of this going to benefit the club. I must admit im not the biggest fan of bomber, but hes gotten us to finals football and the wizz fizz cup. We dont no if Creswall or Longmire can cut it as afl senior coaches, so why would we take the risk when we have a fairly good list.

I'm so pleased you're content with "finals football" - because I'm not. Premierships are the only thing that matters, every other spot on the ladder is a failure. Not to mention the last 3 years have gone 4th, 6th and then 10th. Does that look like a side improving or getting worse?

The worst possible thing we can do is nothing. It will mean a mediocre coach keeps his job, underperforming and overrated hacks like Ling and Kelly will continue to get games, and supporters will receive buckets of bullsh*t from Thompson after every loss (and there will be plenty of them).

 

[Asty]

If makie wants to leave then id be looking at either:
Mackie (at adelaide) For either:
Darren Pffiefer
Medium forward/defender who played six games of league football with Norwood in the SANFL last year. Very good ball winner, has great courage and is a strong mark, winning All-Australian U18 honours this year. His standing vertical jump of 72cm was ranked No 1 at the NAB AFL Draft Camp which indicates his power and agility also ranked in the top 20%. From Birdwood FC.

Richard Douglas
Medium defender or midfielder with terrific workrate, clean hands and footy smarts. Won TAC Coaches Award this year, Victoria Metro U18's and selection TAC Cup Team of the Year. Topped off a great year winning Calder Cannons Best and Fairest Award. Former Assumption College Best and Fairest. Super impressive at NAB AFL Draft Camp with speed agility and endurance all in the top 15% categories. From Broadford FC.

Or there first rounder.

From Port:
a 3rd rounder +
Fabian Deluca
Will continue focusing on the development of all areas of his game and adding bulk to his 203cm frame. The retirement of Primus has elevated him into the likely third choice ruck on the Power’s list. Played the majority of last season in the Sturt reserves before making some league appearances late in the season. Will no doubt have new ruck coach Primus by his side as he looks to play regular senior

Kent looks like he wants to head west, so id be infavour of Trading him for Michael Gardiner.

Wojinski from rumors ive heard may also not be at the club. Essendon have always been pretty keen on him so how about.
How about Dean Soloman for him? Solly will be looking for a new team youd think. Hes stil got some years left, and we need another hard at itdefender. Sheedy has played him as a tall, but hell definaltly be a small with us, Have him in a BP.

Woj for Solly - I wouldn't do as we gain nothing there but at least woj offers some hope with pace and long kicking. Solomon may give us an extra 1/2 backer but he doesn't provide run off that line and ...... I am not a fan of his which counts for more than anything else.

Kent for gardiner would be fine with me that would give us our 5 ruckmen (3 all australians and 2 youngsters) and we could rookie another youngster. I wouldn't get gardiner if we picked up another ruck. He may have a history of injury but so does king so all we have to do is get them out of sync. He is probably of a value with kent though so would be even trade.

Mackie - I would be happy with a young ruckman Deluca/Maric but would rather pick up Douglas (a running onballer with some pace) or Knights (can win a lot of the ball and uses it pretty well). Not sure on Pffiefer as he is unproven at afl level and is an SA boy so may be another who in a couple of years wants to go back home.

 

[costanza23]

Wojinski from rumors ive heard may also not be at the club. Essendon have always been pretty keen on him so how about.
How about Dean Soloman for him? Solly will be looking for a new team youd think. Hes stil got some years left, and we need another hard at itdefender. Sheedy has played him as a tall, but hell definaltly be a small with us, Have him in a BP.

Other players we could lose:
Paul Koula
Tom Lonergan (if he even plays again)
Mathew McCarthy
Charlie Gardiner
Spencer
H
Byrnes

Please, no Solomon. He's a dead-set dud. Have you seen any of his latest games?
I hope Woj doesn't go because he's the only player at our club who runs it out of half back for us. I think we should be recruiting or trying to trade for more half back kind of players rather than midfielders. We need players like Jordan McMahon, Gilbee, Raines, Wirrpanda, McLeod types. I'd rather try and find a quick, skilled, 30-bounces-through-the-center-of-the-ground-a-game, ready-made half back in a trade, rather than wait a few years for a draftee to mature. But it would be good if Callan could do a Jason Gram - just emerge from nowhere and play consistant footy every game of the season in a similar HB / BP role, but it wont happen.

As for players who are gone:

Retired:
Riccardi
Lonergan(50-50)

Traded:
Kingsley
Kelly or Mackie (one of them will be traded and it better be Kelly)

Delisted:
Koulouriotis
Gardiner? (got another year on contract)
Spencer
McCarthy
Batchelor
Sheringham
Slade or S. Hunt (one delisted, one kept as the over 23 'mature age' rookie)

 

[rizzo]

I'm so pleased you're content with "finals football" - because I'm not. Premierships are the only thing that matters, every other spot on the ladder is a failure. Not to mention the last 3 years have gone 4th, 6th and then 10th. Does that look like a side improving or getting worse?

The worst possible thing we can do is nothing. It will mean a mediocre coach keeps his job, underperforming and overrated hacks like Ling and Kelly will continue to get games, and supporters will receive buckets of bullsh*t from Thompson after every loss (and there will be plenty of them).

So the 15 other coaches should all be reviewed. We need to be realistic here. Its not possible to win everything. We have come close. One bad season isnt doom and gloom. Next year if we dont liveup to our previous hype then yes, more should be done. But for now im willing to wait.

The worst possible thing we can do is nothing. It will mean a mediocre coach keeps his job, underperforming and overrated hacks like Ling and Kelly will continue to get games, and supporters will receive buckets of bullsh*t from Thompson after every loss (and there will be plenty of them).

Every coach spins ****. So i dont see the point in that. Underperforming? Overrated? Lings last 3 years have been sensational. Not long ago he was one of the most damaging players around. Blame that on Lovell. Kelly has been unlucky (some motivational issues to?). He has the talent to be a star. We cant trade those types

 

[rizzo]

Please, no Solomon. He's a dead-set dud. Have you seen any of his latest games?

Would help if he wasnt playing on blokes twice his size. Hed be a handy addition. As i say, id rather keep Monica, but if he wants to leave i wouldnt be to dissapointed in that trade.

 

[Asty]

Kelly has been unlucky (some motivational issues to?).

I think this says alot about his attitude at times ...

doesn't look like a serious hard working player to me.

 

[Seb]

Great thread boys, it's a nice change from the barrage of who on the list has a girlfriend etc etc..

I think changes wouldn't be counterproductive. The club needs to be made accountable for the years its had. Whether that be Thompson, the assistants or parts of the administration, something's got to give.

Gary Davidson must go. This guy is horrible. He treats members, the media and supporters with utter contempt. Lovell has to go. Our midfield is slow, unoriginal and lacks polish, class and creativity.

Hinkley has to go. I have never seen a forward line as dysfunctional as ours. Too ofen we get 'the mix' wrong (amount of talls). Too often i see our guys lead to the pocket where there's no chance of them scoring. Oh, blokes like Kingsley (who i know is now gone) lead FAR too early also. Playfair, Gardiner, McCarthy etc. all lack confidence and try to take chest marks when alkl they need to do is take it in front. Simple things like this are Hinkley's job, regardless of the personnel you have.

I'll think of more later.

 

[thegerman]

Gary Davidson must go. This guy is horrible. He treats members, the media and supporters with utter contempt. Lovell has to go. Our midfield is slow, unoriginal and lacks polish, class and creativity.

Hinkley has to go. I have never seen a forward line as dysfunctional as ours. Too ofen we get 'the mix' wrong (amount of talls). Too often i see our guys lead to the pocket where there's no chance of them scoring. Oh, blokes like Kingsley (who i know is now gone) lead FAR too early also. Playfair, Gardiner, McCarthy etc. all lack confidence and try to take chest marks when alkl they need to do is take it in front. Simple things like this are Hinkley's job, regardless of the personnel you have.

Seb, I think you have hit the nail on the head. Agree totally with your comments, and can see the Cats making those changes listed above.

Lovell hasn't done much at all, except bring our midfield down to mediocrity. Their footskills are just terrible, with notable players such as Kelly, Ling, Corey's and to a lesser extent Bartel just kicking and hoping for the forward line to take a contested grab, sometimes against two opponents. Nearly every GFC midfielder has lost ground in their efficiency, some so badly it is cause for them to be traded.

Hinkley, what can I say. None of our big forwards can kick straight. This has been going on now for over 3 years. Some have difficulty hanging onto simple marks and using their big frames to win the ball. This is a total lack of footy nouse, shown by the coaching panel.

As Canberra has the VFL replay's really late on Saturday nights, I finally got to watch last weeks game. I was impressed by a few of the guys, especially some of those listed to be dropped on this thread.

Hunt played pretty well. Slade too, and didn't give away too many free's which is a bonus. Callan wasn't bad, but he really needs to beef up. Grima is someone we need to keep, Davenport also really impressed when on the ground.

Unfortunately we won't be able to keep them all. I would be pissed if we developed most of these guys yet can't fit them in.

 

[winty]

Gary Davidson must go. This guy is horrible. He treats members, the media and supporters with utter contempt. Lovell has to go. Our midfield is slow, unoriginal and lacks polish, class and creativity.

Hinkley has to go. I have never seen a forward line as dysfunctional as ours. Too ofen we get 'the mix' wrong (amount of talls). Too often i see our guys lead to the pocket where there's no chance of them scoring. Oh, blokes like Kingsley (who i know is now gone) lead FAR too early also. Playfair, Gardiner, McCarthy etc. all lack confidence and try to take chest marks when alkl they need to do is take it in front. Simple things like this are Hinkley's job, regardless of the personnel you have.

Seb, I think you have hit the nail on the head. Agree totally with your comments, and can see the Cats making those changes listed above.

Lovell hasn't done much at all, except bring our midfield down to mediocrity. Their footskills are just terrible, with notable players such as Kelly, Ling, Corey's and to a lesser extent Bartel just kicking and hoping for the forward line to take a contested grab, sometimes against two opponents. Nearly every GFC midfielder has lost ground in their efficiency, some so badly it is cause for them to be traded.

Hinkley, what can I say. None of our big forwards can kick straight. This has been going on now for over 3 years. Some have difficulty hanging onto simple marks and using their big frames to win the ball. This is a total lack of footy nouse, shown by the coaching panel.

As Canberra has the VFL replay's really late on Saturday nights, I finally got to watch last weeks game. I was impressed by a few of the guys, especially some of those listed to be dropped on this thread.

Hunt played pretty well. Slade too, and didn't give away too many free's which is a bonus. Callan wasn't bad, but he really needs to beef up. Grima is someone we need to keep, Davenport also really impressed when on the ground.

Unfortunately we won't be able to keep them all. I would be pissed if we developed most of these guys yet can't fit them in.

I agree 100%

 

[rizzo]

Great thread boys, it's a nice change from the barrage of who on the list has a girlfriend etc etc..

I think changes wouldn't be counterproductive. The club needs to be made accountable for the years its had. Whether that be Thompson, the assistants or parts of the administration, something's got to give.

Gary Davidson must go. This guy is horrible. He treats members, the media and supporters with utter contempt. Lovell has to go. Our midfield is slow, unoriginal and lacks polish, class and creativity.

Hinkley has to go. I have never seen a forward line as dysfunctional as ours. Too ofen we get 'the mix' wrong (amount of talls). Too often i see our guys lead to the pocket where there's no chance of them scoring. Oh, blokes like Kingsley (who i know is now gone) lead FAR too early also. Playfair, Gardiner, McCarthy etc. all lack confidence and try to take chest marks when alkl they need to do is take it in front. Simple things like this are Hinkley's job, regardless of the personnel you have.

I'll think of more later.

Great post seb. Good to see some good discussion FINALLY haha. Is it just me or is this place filled with teeny boppers. Really puts ya off posting

The points you make are pretty much exactly what i was thinking.

 

[GOT_TO_LIFT]

Yeh ya rite who are the replacements

 

[thegerman]

Yeh ya rite who are the replacements

For Hinkley would love to see a big forward come in. We seem to have it right with the small forwards, but the big guys are really lacking in skills that could be developed by someone who held down a key forward spot.
Not too sure who would be available, with some of the best mentioned going for the top job at the Saints.

Longmire would be the best option, however why would he leave the Swans if it was only to be a forward coach ? The only guy I think we can coax is Carey. He is a tool, but could really benefit our up and comming big guys. Imagine the improvement in Ablett, Hawkins, Otto, Mooney and H. Would be unreal.

Maybe Stoneham could also fit into the role, I see he took up a role as a ruck coach at the end of the year.

Midfield. To fill this spot it's hard. Guy McKenna maybe. Would love to see Voss take up a role and not play on, but you'd suggest him going to a role with Brisbane first. There really isn't much around, Cresswell is looking for a head coach spot, so unlikely he will come back to us. Plus many of the seniors do not get along with him. Would love to see Buddha back, but then it would be an all Geelong affair, which may not be the best case for us at the moment.

Davidson. Well there is a spot that definitely has to be improved. Look for maybe a swap with Hinkley moving to that role. The players really like him, and development wise I think he has the goods, he just can't teach the big guys how to hold down a key position.

 

[Seb]

Great post seb. Good to see some good discussion FINALLY haha. Is it just me or is this place filled with teeny boppers. Really puts ya off posting

The points you make are pretty much exactly what i was thinking.

Not just you, mate.

As a moderator i've decided to take action. No more rubbish.

 

[Seb]

Yeh ya rite who are the replacements

Look, i don't claim to have any 'inside sources' but i cannot foresee the likes of McKenna and Longmire coming to Geelong in the role of assistant coach.

I think if Michael Voss retires, we should throw benjamins at him. The rumour has it though, that he would prefer to spend a year or two in the media and is very reluctant to leave Brisbane with his young family. But we would be absolutely crazy not to look at him. If not for his footy brain, his leadership.

Paul Williams is another option I would entertain for the midfield. I'm not sure if he's been mentioned or has even thrown his hat in the coaching ring, but the guy could play and when i spoke to him, he was a very reasonable bloke.

For the forward coach, I don't really know. Carey would be sensational, although at what price? All i know is, Hinkley does not impress me and he must be changed.

In my opinion Stoneham is best suited to a minor coaching role. I wouldn't have him as the main forward coach or main ruck coach. I think as a runner he is probably a good option (current situation).

Other names i'd throw up would be Silvangi. Mainly for the reasons i posted in another thread. Too many of our younger small defenders lack a footy brain. Guys like Egan, who have shown considerable promise, have only been playing footy for 3 years. He would benefit in particular from SOS' tutelage.

Another name i'd throw into the mix is Sam Newman. I kid you not. Newman is the best ruck coach going around and he would certainly be willing to help the likes of Blake and West out. We really need to start looking and developing our future ruck stocks because King and Ottens are not fit to play in the ruck for much longer.

Cheers.

 

[Rosella]

Look, i don't claim to have any 'inside sources' but i cannot foresee the likes of McKenna and Longmire coming to Geelong in the role of assistant coach.

I think if Michael Voss retires, we should throw benjamins at him. The rumour has it though, that he would prefer to spend a year or two in the media and is very reluctant to leave Brisbane with his young family. But we would be absolutely crazy not to look at him. If not for his footy brain, his leadership.

Paul Williams is another option I would entertain for the midfield. I'm not sure if he's been mentioned or has even thrown his hat in the coaching ring, but the guy could play and when i spoke to him, he was a very reasonable bloke.

For the forward coach, I don't really know. Carey would be sensational, although at what price? All i know is, Hinkley does not impress me and he must be changed.

In my opinion Stoneham is best suited to a minor coaching role. I wouldn't have him as the main forward coach or main ruck coach. I think as a runner he is probably a good option (current situation).

Other names i'd throw up would be Silvangi. Mainly for the reasons i posted in another thread. Too many of our younger small defenders lack a footy brain. Guys like Egan, who have shown considerable promise, have only been playing footy for 3 years. He would benefit in particular from SOS' tutelage.

Another name i'd throw into the mix is Sam Newman. I kid you not. Newman is the best ruck coach going around and he would certainly be willing to help the likes of Blake and West out. We really need to start looking and developing our future ruck stocks because King and Ottens are not fit to play in the ruck for much longer.

Cheers.

You were doing pretty well til you got to Sam.

Carey is interesting - he's been the forward coach at two clubs and I'm not sure he's set the world on fire at either. Might be the clubs though.

 

[mariascats]

Is anybody aware that the results of the review were released this afternoon. The only one to go is Andy Lovell, and a new position will be created for a players manager.
WOW that was worth waiting for.
Another scapegoat.
We are are still stuck with the rest of the mediocre club employees.

 

[Seb]

Is anybody aware that the results of the review were released this afternoon. The only one to go is Andy Lovell, and a new position will be created for a players manager.
WOW that was worth waiting for.
Another scapegoat.
We are are still stuck with the rest of the mediocre club employees.

Where did you hear that?