Countdown until Gillard is replaced

[KUNG FU]

Who?
And when?

 

[Clay Davis]

Wayne Swan. October.

 

[DeanoT]

Wayne Swan. October.

Can't see Swan being leader. Shorten or Combet would be the obvious choices.

 

[albundysmate]

we will be voting again in 2 months. family first will not be a party in federal politics ever aqgain after today

 

[Hawkamania!]

Ask Mark Arbib. He would know.

 

[Dry Rot]

It's obviously time for the greatness of Anthony Albanese to shine through.

Oozes charisma and with some great news taxes from Ken Henry and a new 300 strong Citizen's Assembly for climate change, he'd shit it in - would get a swing of at least 15% IMO.

 

[Inferno]

It's obviously time for the greatness of Anthony Albanese to shine through.

Oozes charisma and with some great news taxes from Ken Henry and a new 300 strong Citizen's Assembly for climate change, he'd shit it in - would get a swing of at least 15% IMO.

I'd laugh if he did, he probably won't hold onto his own seat if the Greens focused on it. A party without a leader, just in case the ALP could be any more directionless.

 

[dr nick]

Latham, Rudd and Gillard. Quite the trifecta.

Swan is unelectable.

 

[Schism]

I'd like to see Combet as leader at some point. I don't know when. Do the ALP make the change ASAP so that it is a distant memory by the time the next election rolls around? Just call Gillard a failed experiment? Or persist with Gillard?

Also what's with this system enabling 3 country bumpkins to more or less hold the nation to ransom? I would rather just give Abbott his time in the sun and see how we go.

 

[dr strange]

Thought Tony Bourke handled it ok on sky tonite never seen much of him b4 ,Combet does not have the personality to lead

 

[Schism]

Thought Tony Bourke handled it ok on sky tonite never seen much of him b4 ,Combet does not have the personality to lead

Howard doesn't have a personality at all and led for how long ?

 

[GuruJane]

Gillard is finished. Exposed by Abbott as a comparative amateur during the campaign. She was all over the shop. Not knowing who she was or what she was doing there. Rudd mustabeen haw hawing.

Not surprising: the only experience in that arena she's had is being a Minister for less than 3 years! Then catapaulted into PM and expected to run an election campaign less than 8 weeks later.

Typical of Labor's inexperience and lack of understanding of how hard govt is. You could get the picture from the leg waving luvvies here between 07-10. Now they've all skulked away to grow up.

There will be much blood letting re the disfunctionality of the party being hostage to the factional warlords.

And then there is Rudd .issue

And then there is Shorten issue.

In fact, next competent Labor PM may not even be in the parliament.

That said, my picks are Combet or Smith to give party any chance of regrouping. Combet might also restore sanity to luvvies.

 

[Schism]

Gillard is finished. Exposed by Abbott as a comparative amateur during the campaign. She was all over the shop. Not knowing who she was or what she was doing there. Rudd mustabeen haw hawing.

Not surprising: the only experience in that arena she's had is being a Minister for less than 3 years! Then catapaulted into PM and expected to run an election campaign less than 8 weeks later.

Typical of Labor's inexperience and lack of understanding of how hard govt is. You could get the picture from the leg waving luvvies here between 07-10. Now they've all skulked away to grow up.

There will be much blood letting re the disfunctionality of the party being hostage to the factional warlords.

And then there is Rudd .issue

And then there is Shorten issue.

In fact, next competent Labor PM may not even be in the parliament.

That said, my picks are Combet or Smith to give party any chance of regrouping. Combet might also restore sanity to luvvies.

I'm still here ya flog

Typical of the Liberal mindset - you consider a draw or 'honourable loss' as a win

 

[blackcat]

Thought Tony Bourke handled it ok on sky tonite never seen much of him b4 ,Combet does not have the personality to lead

actually, he gets the doctors' wives wet. Something about the lantern jaw, specs, and the wharf.

yeah, go figure. No need for horny goat weed.

TB has a lisp. Dont the Howard battlers subscribe to some old wives' tale on lisps. Sorta thing they would

 

[Leadfoot101]

we will be voting again in 2 months. family first will not be a party in federal politics ever aqgain after today

Another Liberal stooge that went down into the dust of history, good riddance Fielding!

 

[morgoth]

Treating Gillard as the problem is wrong. She is a product of the factions in the ALP and a creation of the puppet masters. ALP needs to get back to standing for something other than what the focus groups and union heavies say.

Libs have their own problems, amaetuer hour admin and organisational skills. Lots of seats did not have a candidate until a month or two from the election, ads were poor, and at the party level they are disorganised.

This to me feels very much like the Gough/Fraser period. We will find our way through it but it will take some time and probably some pain before we do.

 

[outabounds]

Can't see Swan being leader. Shorten or Combet would be the obvious choices.

Shorten! He is responsible for the mess the ALP are in now. The Libs would have a field day with him. He has a lot to answer for. The way this is looking, the ALP have bumblingly kicked themselves out of power and Shorten has a lot to answer for that.

 

[KUNG FU]

Push factor: Election loss, vacuous campaign, tainted by both the actions of Rudd and his removal
Saving factor: Who the heck would want the job at the moment? Swan suffers as much as Gillard. I would not be surprised if a young gun is already gauging the waters, like Combet or Shorten. Is someone like Smith likely to get the party behind him? When will he make a move? I don't see anyone else on the horizon. The absolute failure of the Gillard experiment also makes me wonder whether the factional leaders might be facing a crisis of legitimacy.

 

[Lach72]

Push factor: Election loss, vacuous campaign, tainted by both the actions of Rudd and his removal
Saving factor: Who the heck would want the job at the moment? Swan suffers as much as Gillard. I would not be surprised if a young gun is already gauging the waters, like Combet or Shorten. Is someone like Smith likely to get the party behind him? When will he make a move? I don't see anyone else on the horizon. The absolute failure of the Gillard experiment also makes me wonder whether the factional leaders might be facing a crisis of legitimacy.

Have to be Combet wouldn't it? At least he doesn't come across as a conniving little shit.

Seems to have a rep as a do-er too. He seems to have a lot of respect in the mental health area, and handled the insulation shit sandwich as well as could be expected

 

[Bradesmaen]

Kate Ellis for leader! There'd be a giant swing towards in the male demographic.

 

[Todman]

If you thought Abbott had a woman problem, How many times had Combet been married, and now he's a new dad to another.

Combet solution to the Pink Batts was to hold no press interviews, none.


Fielding is still a senator under 30/6/2011. If Abbott gets up he won't call an election before then.

Abbott will need time to tarnish the Greens so he will have to let the Greens block a few bills

 

[dmc333]

Damn pity Plibersek is up the duff. She would have been my choice for laughs.

 

[TheBloods]

Gillard's political career is stuffed (unless she can negotiate a compromise government) but they can't afford to replace her for some time.

 

[dmc333]

Libs have their own problems, amaetuer hour admin and organisational skills. Lots of seats did not have a candidate until a month or two from the election, ads were poor, and at the party level they are disorganised.

Absolute farce in my seat. Labor had it by 2% and had been on the nose. Arguably the best lib candidate (best of a bad bunch) was too busy hedging his bets and decided not to contest pre selection. One bloke stuck his hand up - old farmer with a personality bypass. You just cringed any time he spoke. Result: A swing of 5% against the libs.

If you were looking at picking up seats, surely a 2% swing is attainable in a seat that has regularly changed hands.

Never fails to amaze me how disorganised these parties are, then they expect to run the country.

 

[serpico66]

Stephen Smith is the obvious candidate. Good looking, well spoken and as yet untarnished.

They wont get rid of Gillard in a hurry, she may yet win this election.