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Ralphyboy said:
My understanding is:

1. The players themselves are not at risk if they contract the virus. They would have few symptoms
2. The risk is that they spread it to the wider community
3. The financial impacts of the cancellation of games will be dire and will take decades to resolve. Players salaries will be cut

So if the goal is:

1. Protect the community
2. Protect the viability of the game, then I would propose the following:

1. All players, coaches and skeleton staff relocate to melbourne for 3 months
2. Each team be allocated a ground, with accommodation near by
3. Each team be socially isolated for the three months,
4. The first 5 rounds of the full 22 game schedule be played at grounds in Melbourne without fans, but with full TV coverage
5. At the end of 3 months most players will have had the virus and recovered, and will no longer be contagious
6. Players with children etc can elect not to participate but will suffer a salary reduction as a consequence
7. Players from state leagues can elect to enter a draft knowing they will be in isolation for the 3 months.

I asked one of the younger swans players whether he would be willing to do this. He said they are pretty much doing it now, and if it meant more senior games and maintenance of salary then he would love to do it.
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I actually think that’s a very good suggestion. Half the population will be stuck at home and it’ll give those interested at least something.

Rugby League should do similar.
 

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whatever week there isnt footy be it this week or not we should all agree on a time to have a rewatch thread for the 2012 or 2005 grand final
 
Punts said:
Delayed another 24hours

Just call it
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Why not even aim for 17 round starting 17 weeks prior to grand final day

at least buys you 5 weeks
 
The King! said:
Why not even aim for 17 round starting 17 weeks prior to grand final day

at least buys you 5 weeks
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Because around May/June is when the experts are predicting the outbreak to be at it's peak. Which would fall right in the middle of that 17 week period. So I think the AFL's logic is we need games to fall on either side of that lengthy break in the season, which would mean getting things started sooner rather than later.

Still don't agree with it though.
 
caesar88 said:
Because around May/June is when the experts are predicting the outbreak to be at it's peak. Which would fall right in the middle of that 17 week period. So I think the AFL's logic is we need games to fall on either side of that lengthy break in the season, which would mean getting things started sooner rather than later.

Still don't agree with it though.
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Probably play in the peak :p just mind the sick people
Might go induce a coma for a few months
 
puke said:
No doubt a lot of renegotiations of multiple contracts to take place to make afl sustainable survivable but the first decision must always be protecting humans from illness or death. Tv rights extended one year to make up for missing year. Contracts with players likewise with minimum wage paid this year. Small vendors to cut staff to be sustainable and seek other avenues for revenue. Some will founder. Buddy may have to sell off an investment property. There will be no perfect solution and will be a lot of pain and some casualties.....so we all hunker down and protect each other. nothing else can be done. Trying to continue as usual as though a season can go ahead is poor leadership. Accept what is and seek to mitigate.

“Hey Rupert I need to change the tv rights contract”

“Sorry it’s binding”

“Ok I’ll close AFL and because all money has been distributed your claim will die with that insolvency and then having set up new AFL I’ll seek a new contract at 5% of the previous because of the current worldwide depression”

“Oh crap, ok then”
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that last bit is just rubbish and you know it...

I never said continue as usual, I just said stop heaping on crap on people who are trying in a tough and ever changing situation to do the right thing by all concerned...
 
People want to get on with life ****en shit as it is

There’s a balance between closing the whole
World down and leaving it ****ed anyway v health of the community

I know everyone will say health number one

but if everyone ends up unemployed and poverty stricken then who cares
 
The King! said:
whatever week there isnt footy be it this week or not we should all agree on a time to have a rewatch thread for the 2012 or 2005 grand final
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I can't guarantee I'll be able to participate, but it's a great idea
 
Kirkswan said:
that last bit is just rubbish and you know it...

I never said continue as usual, I just said stop heaping on crap on people who are trying in a tough and ever changing situation to do the right thing by all concerned...
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Actually Kirkswan it’s not too dissimilar to what happens. Commercial realities. I had a client who was technically bankrupt and owed $370k debt. You want to know how much he paid to settle all that debt? $10k total. I simply said you take that or spend more money to get nothing in bankruptcy. your choice.
 

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~5% of people who catch it end up in ICU.

Apparently half of the coronavirus patients in ICU in France are under 60.

You would be unlucky overall but you're not immune, its just less likely to actually kill you.
 
Remeber this virus is not in a fixed state. It’ mutating all the time, and all it takes is one of trillions of mutations for it to become more deadly. The longer it is around, the riskier things get, but it needs hosts. Starve it of hosts it eventually goes away, thats why lockdowns happen, to starve it of hosts
 
scaryness said:
~5% of people who catch it end up in ICU.

Apparently half of the coronavirus patients in ICU in France are under 60.

You would be unlucky overall but you're not immune, its just less likely to actually kill you.
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And every younger person in ICU, even if less likely to die, means one less bed for an older person.

That's the exact situation in Italy.
 
scaryness said:
~5% of people who catch it end up in ICU.

Apparently half of the coronavirus patients in ICU in France are under 60.

You would be unlucky overall but you're not immune, its just less likely to actually kill you.
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Saw some interesting stats today saying that the true death rate is a little over 1%. There are something like 14% that are asymptomatic or mild symptoms not factored into the numbers. They were saying that under 64 unless you have bad health then your probability of death is very low.

I’m inclined to think that healthy people under 50 shouldn’t be in hospital. The beds need to be kept for those over 64 imo.
 

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puke said:
Saw some interesting stats today saying that the true death rate is a little over 1%. There are something like 14% that are asymptomatic or mild symptoms not factored into the numbers. They were saying that under 64 unless you have bad health then your probability of death is very low.

I’m inclined to think that healthy people under 50 shouldn’t be in hospital. The beds need to be kept for those over 64 imo.
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That's not how medical triage works in pandemic situations. When it comes to the point where you can not give a bed to everyone who needs it, you prioritise giving beds to those who are most likely to be able to make a recovery. Age is one factor of many when that consideration is made.

If you are an under 50 year old in a hospital ICU because you have corona virus you are no longer a "healthy under 50 year old" who can be assumed to just be able to rest it off at home. You are a very sick under 50 year old who would quite possibly die without intensive medical care. Your probability of death is definitely lower if you are younger and healthier, but that doesn't mean that younger people are not dying because of this virus. They are.
 

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