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I think you missed the BOG who won the game for SA.. the umpire that didn’t call the incorrect disposal free that led to SA’s last goal to get them in front.


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At half time i did think the umpires gave SA at least 2 goals that were not deserved, but after half time they didnt seem so biased, but these things happen, i mean Hawthorn has the worst free kick record for the last 50 years, it doesnt stop us from winning premierships, i dont think the result matters, for me its all about the performances.
 

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Ben Mansfield is the son off former bulldog..Matt
Kid is a gun footballer elite both sides of the body and great size plays like x hawk and box hill coach Mitchell.
Sinn is a better footballer than Whitfield (spent a lot off time with both)
Harrison Andronico is the one that clubs should be looking at.
Onballer who plays like Papley or Eddie betts but taller.
Finn Callaghan is smooth moving looks and plays like Parish but a sweet left foot.
 
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1. Jason Horne - 184cm 78kg - South Adel
2. Nick Daicos - 183cm 72kg - Oakleigh (Coll F/S)
3. Finn Callaghan - 189cm 82kg - Sandringham
4. Josh Sinn - 186cm 72kg - Sandringham
5. Matthew Roberts - 183cm 81kg - South Adel
6. Josh Fahey - 186cm 76kg - GWS A (GWS A)
7. Neil Erasmus - 188cm 80kg - Subiaco
8. Sam Darcy - 203cm 75kg - Oakleigh (WB F/S)
9. Josh Rachele - 180cm 78kg - Murray
10. Matthew Johnson - 191cm 80kg - Subiaco
11. Campbell Chesser - 186cm 83kg - Sandringham
12. Ned Long - 192cm 88kg - Northern
13. Tyler Sonsie - 181cm 76kg - Eastern
14. Jacob Van Rooyen - 194cm 88kg - Claremont
15. Jack Williams - 195cm 91kg - East Frem
16. Sam Banks - 187cm 73kg - Tasmania
17. Joshua Browne - 185cm 77kg - East Frem
18. Ben Hobbs - 183cm 80kg - GWV
19. Arlo Draper - 185cm 74kg - South Adel
20. Morgan Ferres - 190cm 80kg - Sturt
21. Josh Gibcus - 195cm 84kg - GWV
22. Connor MacDonald - 184cm 77kg - Dandenong
23. Lewis Rayson - 181cm 64kg - Glenlg
24. Toby Conway - 204cm 90kg - Geelong
25. Josh Goater - 190cm 79kg - Calder
26. Cooper Hamilton - 182cm 86kg - Bendigo
27. Darcy Wilmot - 182cm 70kg - Northern
28. Lachlan Rankin - 182cm 68kg - Oakleigh
29. Josh Ward - 181cm 74kg - Northern
30. Rhett Bazzo - 195cm 81kg - Swan Dist
31. Jye Amiss - 195cm 83kg - East Perth
32. Jase Burgoyne - 184cm 62kg - WWT
33. Luca MacNabb - 183cm 75kg - Sandringham
34. Yousef Dib - 174cm 76kg - Oakleigh (Coll NGA)
35. Cooper Murley - 178cm 70kg - Norwood
36. Kade Dittmar - 186cm 90kg - East Perth
37. Tom Brown - 186cm 71kg - Murray
38. Kai Lohmann - 185cm 76kg - GWV
39. Jackson Archer - 183cm 70kg - Northern (NM F/S)
40. Jack Rossimel - 193cm 89kg - Northern

I will update with heights, weights, club and state on another day, Callaghan seems to be the big mover, Erasmus has also moved up with big Colts and School footy performances, Ferres drops a little because of his 3rd tall status, Amiss has risen a little with his Colts form going at near 4 goals a game, MacNabb and Dittmar are interesting prospects I wanted to mention, Tom Brown is an athlete, so I'm guessing clubs will love his combine results, Archer is in good form, Lohmann and Rossimel play an exciting brand of footy as well, there's another 20-30 I could mention, but pre-champs I'm liking these players best.
 
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Davo where would Luca Anderson(Noah’s) brother go in this years draft. Maybe Hawthorn should look at him may be a way to get Noah out of Gold Coast in a coupe of years.
 

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There is a bit of similarity between the King Twins and Sam Darcy, that is not to say they will have similar careers, but they all seem to be very tall KPP who are very skinny and very athletic, i have not seen Sam Darcys combine results so cant quite confirm, they also dominate the aerial contests, with this in mind im still unsure if Sam Darcy is top 5, 6-10 or late first round, hopefully the champs will clear that up.
 
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my thoughts on future drafts.

(2022) I can do a rough 25 best that i have seen in the u17 champs, dont take it too seriously, but i like the look of these guys best so far

VM - Will Ashcroft, George Wardlaw, Elijah Tsatas, Harry Sheezel, Blake Drury, Cooper Harvey

VC - Oliver Hollands, Mitch Szybkowski, Aaron Cadman, Cooper Vickery, Harvey Howe, Noah Long

SA - Adam D'Aloia, Max Michalanny, Jaiden Magor, Isaac Keeler, Nick Sadler, Mattaes Phillipou

WA - Jack Cleaver, Jedd Busslinger, Alex Condon, Luke Michael, Jed Hagan, Sam Gilbey

TAS - Lachlan Cowan

a top 10 so far:
1. Will Ashcroft - VM
2. George Wardlaw - VM
3. Elijah Tsatas - VM
4. Oliver Hollands - VC
5. Adam D'Aloia - SA
6. Jack Cleaver - WA
7. Max Michalanny - SA
8. Mitch Szybkowski - VC
9. Harry Sheezel - VM
10. Jed Hagan - WA/Jaiden Magor - SA

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(2023)
1. Jack Delean - SA
2. Harley Reid - VC
3. Nick Watson - VM
4. Daniel Curtin - WA
5. Will Patton - SA

Tom Wheaton - SA, Koen Sanchez - WA, Tyreise Clark - WA and Zane Duursma - VC i like also.
 
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There is a bit of similarity between the King Twins and Sam Darcy, that is not to say they will have similar careers, but they all seem to be very tall KPP who are very skinny and very athletic, i have not seen Sam Darcys combine results so cant quite confirm, they also dominate the aerial contests, with this in mind im still unsure if Sam Darcy is top 5, 6-10 or late first round, hopefully the champs will clear that up.
Kicked 6 today, could be looking like a top 5 at this rate. Although the biggest thing that seperates him from the Kings is pace - they were among the quickest in their draft year
 

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Kicked 6 today, could be looking like a top 5 at this rate. Although the biggest thing that seperates him from the Kings is pace - they were among the quickest in their draft year
He is continuing his impressive form, its becoming more likely he goes top 5, especially with his forward goal kicking form.
 

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Liking Finn Callaghans game so far in the first quarter, in the right places off the ball, good contested footy

For Sandringham, 23 as a small forward is doing ok, 32 is a young tall looking ok for Sandy, Max Heath running around as a tall forw, kicked a goal and in the ruck a little around the ground, For Eastern Tyreece Lieu is looking more confident off the back of his vfl experience.

Pretty scrappy game, they are looking rusty after the lock down break.

Davo - I reckon this is the lad I was asking you about on the Hawks Board a couple of weeks ago, Ben Mansfield. Any further thoughts on him after seeing that game?
 

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Davo - I reckon this is the lad I was asking you about on the Hawks Board a couple of weeks ago, Ben Mansfield. Any further thoughts on him after seeing that game?
He looks like a decent small forw, might be a chance later in the draft if he keeps up the good form.
 

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I think theres 4 players who could be elite, Horne and Daicos are the obvious 2, but Callaghan and Darcy are bridging the gap, then you have Hobbs and Goater increasing their value, then you have Erasmus having a huge year, then theres the guys who have been up the top end for awhile in Sinn, Chesser, Fahey, Johnson, Roberts, Rachele ect
 

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Callaghan, Chesser, Cleary and Visentini looking good for Sandy, Sinn is going ok in his first game back, for Tassie Cowan the #15 is looking good for 2022, Menzie doing ok, there were a few others that played well too, but just highlighting the top draft chances.
 

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July Top 50, let's do it.

1. Nick Daicos
2. Jason Horne
3. Finn Callaghan
4. Sam Darcy
5. Neil Erasmus
6. Josh Sinn
7. Josh Fahey
8. Matthew Roberts
9. Josh Rachele
10. Campbell Chesser
11. Ben Hobbs
12. Matthew Johnson
13. Ned Long
14. Josh Goater
15. Tyler Sonsie
16. Jack Williams
17. Sam Banks
18. Joshua Browne
19. Arlo Draper
20. Josh Gibcus
21. Connor MacDonald
22. Josh Ward
23. Jacob Van Rooyen
24. Morgan Ferres
25. Judson Clarke
26. Toby Conway
27. Lewis Rayson
28. Jye Amiss
29. Cooper Hamilton
30. Rhett Bazzo
31. Lachlan Rankin
32. Kai Lohmann
33. Kade Dittmar
34. Darcy Wilmot
35. Yousef Dib
36. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
37. Jase Burgoyne
38. Cooper Murley
39. Jackson Archer
40. Jake Soligo
41. Jack Rossimel
42. Tom Brown
43. Shay Linke
44. Isaiah Dudley
45. Hugh Hamilton
46. Charlie Molan
47. Hugh Jackson
48. Blake Scott
49. Jed Rule
50. Jesse Motlop

I'll be honest the last 4 players I was struggling with, so its a top 46 and 4 players I like out of the rest.
 
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July Top 50, let's do it.

1. Nick Daicos
2. Jason Horne
3. Finn Callaghan
4. Sam Darcy
5. Neil Erasmus
6. Josh Sinn
7. Josh Fahey
8. Matthew Roberts
9. Josh Rachele
10. Campbell Chesser
11. Ben Hobbs
12. Matthew Johnson
13. Ned Long
14. Josh Goater
15. Tyler Sonsie
16. Jack Williams
17. Sam Banks
18. Joshua Browne
19. Arlo Draper
20. Josh Gibcus
21. Connor MacDonald
22. Josh Ward
23. Jacob Van Rooyen
24. Morgan Ferres
25. Judson Clarke
26. Toby Conway
27. Lewis Rayson
28. Jye Amiss
29. Cooper Hamilton
30. Rhett Bazzo
31. Lachlan Rankin
32. Kai Lohmann
33. Kade Dittmar
34. Darcy Wilmot
35. Yousef Dib
36. Naisiah Wanganeen
37. Jase Burgoyne
38. Cooper Murley
39. Jackson Archer
40. Jake Soligo
41. Jack Rossimel
42. Tom Brown
43. Shay Linke
44. Isaiah Dudley
45. Hugh Hamilton
46. Charlie Molan
47. Hugh Jackson
48. Blake Scott
49. Jed Rule
50. Jesse Motlop

I'll be honest the last 4 players I was struggling with, so its a top 46 and 4 players I like out of the rest.
Think Cooper Murley goes a bit higher than you have him now he's back from his ankle issue and playing top notch footy.
 

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trying to break up the draft pool into groupings again prior to the champs, some changes, i really liked Sam Darcy's games in defence, also he is kicking bags of 5 or more (3x) and another game with 4 goals in school footy and now VM trials which is a great feat(Harrison Jones kicked 4 in a Trial to put his name up as a draft hopeful and got people excited about his prospects), his athleticism, height (start of year the info was that he was 197cm, now rumoured to be 204cm with updates?)and goal kicking form have made it obvious that he is the best KPP prospect in this years draft, Finn Callaghan has something special about him and now that he has taken his outside skill to a more contested inside game where he likes to run through contests and uses it intelligently, also starting to amass good numbers, makes me think that these 2 players could join Horne and Daicos in the Elite category.

Hobbs' return from injury with great form and Goater's recent form and both their Trial form has lifted them back into the first round contention imo, Ward, Clarke and Amiss also got a boost(i made the top tier a bit more exclusive), Amiss i would like to see more of before i make a firm read(he could rise after seeing more of his footy), i still like Cooper Hamilton as he impressed me with his game a couple of times for Bendigo and in the AFL Academy, i also liked Callaghan when he was averaging 15 disposals before he exploded, it is annoying Cooper has averaged 13 disposals, but i hope he gets to add some numbers to justify my faith and some good form at the champs could help also?.

Elite: Horne, Daicos, Callaghan, Darcy (4)

Top Tier: Erasmus, Sinn, Fahey, Roberts, Rachele, Chesser, Hobbs, Johnson, Long, Goater (10)

Quality AFL Potential: Sonsie, Williams, Banks, Browne, Draper, Gibcus, MacDonald, Ward, JVR, Ferres, Clarke, Conway, Rayson, Amiss, C.Hamilton, Bazzo, Rankin, Lohmann, Dittmar, Wilmot (20)

im sure things will change after the champs, but heres an update.
 
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Watching the Gipps v Western game right now, not much top end talent in these teams from what i can see, very scrappy footy.
 

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Think Cooper Murley goes a bit higher than you have him now he's back from his ankle issue and playing top notch footy.
Cooper is starting to hit his straps and was excellent on the weekend. Very close to a league call up
 

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Just saw the SANFL Rookie of the week and I noticed there's a bit of a name change? Nasiah Waganeen-Milera.
 
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Big comeback in the last quarter, but VC held on to win (u17)

VC 74-65 VM

the best from my PoV

VC - Schuback, Clark, Hollands, Stevens, Long, Konstanty, George, M.Clohessy, Parkhouse, Northam

VM - Wardlaw, Watson, Drury, Teal, Windsor, Tsatas (Ashcroft if he played more than 1 1/2 quarters)
 

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my thoughts on future drafts.

(2022) I can do a rough 25 best that i have seen in the u17 champs, dont take it too seriously, but i like the look of these guys best so far

VM - Will Ashcroft, George Wardlaw, Elijah Tsatas, Harry Sheezel, Blake Drury, Cooper Harvey

VC - Oliver Hollands, Mitch Szybkowski, Aaron Cadman, Cooper Vickery, Harvey Howe, Noah Long

SA - Adam D'Aloia, Max Michalanny, Jaiden Magor, Isaac Keeler, Nick Sadler, Mattaes Phillipou

WA - Jack Cleaver, Jedd Busslinger, Alex Condon, Luke Michael, Jed Hagan, Sam Gilbey

TAS - Lachlan Cowan

a top 10 so far:
1. Will Ashcroft - VM
2. George Wardlaw - VM
3. Elijah Tsatas - VM
4. Oliver Hollands - VC
5. Adam D'Aloia - SA
6. Jack Cleaver - WA
7. Max Michalanny - SA
8. Mitch Szybkowski - VC
9. Harry Sheezel - VM
10. Jed Hagan - WA/Jaiden Magor - SA

What happened to Fraser Bone? SA - yet to see the Northern Academies
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(2023)
1. Jack Delean - SA
2. Harley Reid - VC
3. Nick Watson - VM
4. Daniel Curtin - WA
5. Will Patton - SA

Tom Wheaton - SA, Koen Sanchez - WA, Tyreise Clark - WA and Zane Duursma - VC i like also.
If i had to make a small edit, i would add Clark and Schuback for Vickery and Szybkowski, over the 2 games they were better overall, i would also add Stevens - VC as a 2023 prospect i really like.
 

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