Draft Expert Davo-27's 2022 u18 Draft Thread

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Davo-27

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How far is Malik Gordon off your 2023 list, has some pretty exciting attributes i.e. size and explosiveness whether playing forward or midfield.?
i've yet to see the explosiveness from him, i need to see them play a good game or have good attributes, hopefully both, sometimes it takes until i see them at the champs, im yet to see that from him, he is certainly tall so he has size, didnt really do much in the trials game, has had a couple decent NAB League performances, so he is on the radar, but not in the ones to look out for yet.
 

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update ranking groups:

Elite: (2) Ashcroft, Wardlaw
Top Tier1: (4) Sheezel, Clark, Tsatas, Cadman
Top Tier2: (15)Keeler, Busslinger, MacKenzie, Phillipou, Hewett, Jefferson, Szybkowski, Ginbey, George, Munkara, Hollands, McCallum, Hayes, D'Aloia, Fletcher
AFL Standard1: (19)Hagan, Hotton, Teal, Hustwaite, Humphrey, Konstanty, Barnett, Northam, Drury, Al Davey Jnr, Brain, Verrell, Scully, Lemmey, K.Ryan, Penny, Weddle, Jones, Leary
AFL Standard2: (26)Cowan, Gillbee, Clarke, Dowling, Burgiel, Bond, Walker, Rowston, J.Davey, Long, O'Sullivan, J.Ryan, O'Keefe, Vickery, MacNeill, Michael, Binns, T.Clohesy, M.Clohesy, Lovelock, Gilbey, Schuback, Michaelanny, Hempel, Broadbent, Campbell.
Thoughts on Boomer junior?
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Thoughts on Boomer junior?
cheers

Cooper Harvey was average to above average in the u17's series last year playing for Vic Metro V Vic Country, he played well for Northern Knights this season, but his best games came when the private school kids left to play APS i think?(i should check), he mustve been injured for over a month because he didnt play in the Vic Metro Trials or the Champs, i can kindve remember about 6-8 games he played in and most he was ok in, only once can i remember him dominating and some people were saying he might be a late 2nd rounder after that game, but i would think thats the top end of his range, if i had to guess from what i know maybe his range is something like 35-rookie?
 

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if you want to see my full list of 2023 players, i have it on my 1st post of the thread, just wanted to mention Noah Mills from WA, just saw him play a game from earlier in the year, could be a bolter if he develops a bit more physically.

2023

Jack Delean - SA
Will Patton - SA
Tom Wheaton - SA
Ashton Moir - SA
Alex Holt - SA
Will McCabe - SA
Ben Ridgeway - SA
Luca Slade - SA

Daniel Curtin - WA
Koen Sanchez - WA
Tyreise Clark - WA
Riley Hardeman - WA
Mitch Williams - WA
Koltyn Tholstrup - WA
Mitch Edwards - WA
Xavier Walsh - WA
Clay Hall - WA
Noah Mills - WA

Jed Walter - Allies (GCS)
Jake Rogers - Allies (GCS)
Ethan Read - Allies (GCS)
Caiden Cleary - Allies (Syd)
James Lugsdin - Allies (Syd)
Ryley Sanders - Allies (Tas/Sand)
Jack Callinan - Allies (Tas)
Colby McKercher - Allies (Tas)
Beau Nash - Allies (Tas)
Arie Schoenmaker - Allies (Tas)

Nick Watson - VM/East
Caleb Windsor - VM/East
Cam Nyko - VM/East
Oliver Horlock - VM/East
Riley Witherill - VM/East
Iliro Smit - VM/East
Archie Roberts - VM/Sand
Nate Caddy - VM/North
Rohan McKenzie - VM/North
Charlie Naish - VM/North
Will Green - VM/North
Diesel Moloney - VM/West
Logan Morris - VM/West
Oliver Badr - VM/Oak
Nathan Philactides - VM/Oak
Kynan Brown - VM/Oak
Mahmoud Taha - VM/Cald
Kade Mueller - VM/Cald

Harley Reid - VC/Bend
Harrison Kelly - VC/Bend
Malik Gordon - VC/Bend
Luamon Lual - VC/GWV
Ethan McKercher - VC/GWV
George Stevens - VC/GWV
Joel Freijah - VC/GWV
Lachlan Charleson - VC/GWV
Archer Reid - VC/Gipps
Zane Duursma - VC/Gipps
Josh Hamilton - VC/Gipps
Michael Rudd - VC/Geel
Tobyn Murray - VC/Geel
Patrick Hughes - VC/Geel
Sam Frangalas - VC/Dand
Kobe Shipp - VC/Dand
Cooper Simpson - VC/Dand
Kade De La Rue - VC/Dand
Billy Wilson - VC/Dand
Riak Andrew - VC/Dand
Darcy Wilson - VC/Murr
Coby James - VC/Murr
 
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update ranking groups:

Elite: (2) Ashcroft, Wardlaw
Top Tier1: (4) Sheezel, Clark, Tsatas, Cadman
Top Tier2: (15)Keeler, Busslinger, MacKenzie, Phillipou, Hewett, Jefferson, Szybkowski, Ginbey, George, Munkara, Hollands, McCallum, Hayes, D'Aloia, Fletcher
AFL Standard1: (19)Hagan, Hotton, Teal, Hustwaite, Humphrey, Konstanty, Barnett, Northam, Drury, Al Davey Jnr, Brain, Verrell, Scully, Lemmey, K.Ryan, Penny, Weddle, Jones, Leary
AFL Standard2: (26)Cowan, Gillbee, Clarke, Dowling, Burgiel, Bond, Walker, Rowston, J.Davey, Long, O'Sullivan, J.Ryan, O'Keefe, Vickery, MacNeill, Michael, Binns, T.Clohesy, M.Clohesy, Lovelock, Gilbey, Schuback, Michaelanny, Hempel, Broadbent, Campbell.
Sheezel not elite?
 

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im trying to get him to the hawks mate :D

i should put him in elite, i doubt we can get him anyway now, another hawks fan gone in the draft before we can get them :(
mate dont worry, wce cop it everytime we look to get pick 1..2020 our pick 1 became pick 4 due to the suns, this year with Ashcroft we're getting stichted up again
 

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if you want to see my full list of 2023 players, i have it on my 1st post of the thread, just wanted to mention Noah Mills from WA, just saw him play a game from earlier in the year, could be a bolter if he develops a bit more physically.

2023

Jack Delean - SA
Will Patton - SA
Tom Wheaton - SA
Ashton Moir - SA
Alex Holt - SA
Will McCabe - SA
Ben Ridgeway - SA
Luca Slade - SA

Daniel Curtin - WA
Koen Sanchez - WA
Tyreise Clark - WA
Riley Hardeman - WA
Mitch Williams - WA
Koltyn Tholstrup - WA
Mitch Edwards - WA
Xavier Walsh - WA
Clay Hall - WA
Noah Mills - WA

Jed Walter - Allies (GCS)
Jake Rogers - Allies (GCS)
Ethan Read - Allies (GCS)
Caiden Cleary - Allies (Syd)
James Lugsdin - Allies (Syd)
Ryley Sanders - Allies (Tas/Sand)
Jack Callinan - Allies (Tas)
Colby McKercher - Allies (Tas)
Beau Nash - Allies (Tas)
Arie Schoenmaker - Allies (Tas)

Nick Watson - VM/East
Caleb Windsor - VM/East
Cam Nyko - VM/East
Oliver Horlock - VM/East
Riley Witherill - VM/East
Iliro Smit - VM/East
Archie Roberts - VM/Sand
Nate Caddy - VM/North
Rohan McKenzie - VM/North
Charlie Naish - VM/North
Will Green - VM/North
Diesel Moloney - VM/West
Logan Morris - VM/West
Oliver Badr - VM/Oak
Nathan Philactides - VM/Oak
Kynan Brown - VM/Oak
Mahmoud Taha - VM/Cald
Kade Mueller - VM/Cald

Harley Reid - VC/Bend
Harrison Kelly - VC/Bend
Malik Gordon - VC/Bend
Luamon Lual - VC/GWV
Ethan McKercher - VC/GWV
George Stevens - VC/GWV
Joel Freijah - VC/GWV
Lachlan Charleson - VC/GWV
Archer Reid - VC/Gipps
Zane Duursma - VC/Gipps
Josh Hamilton - VC/Gipps
Michael Rudd - VC/Geel
Tobyn Murray - VC/Geel
Patrick Hughes - VC/Geel
Sam Frangalas - VC/Dand
Kobe Shipp - VC/Dand
Cooper Simpson - VC/Dand
Kade De La Rue - VC/Dand
Billy Wilson - VC/Dand
Riak Andrew - VC/Dand
Darcy Wilson - VC/Murr
Coby James - VC/Murr
I’m hearing Harley Reid, Nate Caddy, Nick Watson & Nathan Philactides have all been advised that they are not required to play in the u17 game in a couple of weeks.
 

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I’m hearing Harley Reid, Nate Caddy, Nick Watson & Nathan Philactides have all been advised that they are not required to play in the u17 game in a couple of weeks.
All 4 had a good carnival in the u18 champs, makes room for more unknowns to get some exposure.
 

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Josh Hamilton has been dominating the NAB league as a bottom ager.
theres 2 Josh Hamiltons, 1 playing for Northern Knights as a draft age player and he has had some big games, then you have Josh Hamilton at Gippsland who is an underager and has a draft aged brother Thomas Hamilton and they look very similar, but yea 2 Josh Hamiltons in the NAB League this year.
 

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Cadman is a top 10 prospect but the the forward I really rate is Jefferson but a key forward seems unlikely for the Lions this year with both Ashcroft and Fletcher rated top 20 picks what does next years draft look like are there any key forwards to watch out for ?
 

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Cadman is a top 10 prospect but the the forward I really rate is Jefferson but a key forward seems unlikely for the Lions this year with both Ashcroft and Fletcher rated top 20 picks what does next years draft look like are there any key forwards to watch out for ?

Archer Reid - 201cm KPF from Gippsland - brother of the essendon Reid, had a huge Vic Country Trials game where he dominated, was quiet in the u18 champs in 2-3 games, but another year in the gym and he has the potential to go first round, 11.8 in 9 games, but his Trials form against the best in the NAB League was so strong it gives an indication of what he could be capable of when he fills out.

Jed Walter - 194cm KPF GCS A - linked to Gold Coast, kicked 9 goals in 4 games at the u18's champs and just has a great all round game, likely to go first round

Riley Witherill - 195cm KPF Eastern - has been good in the NAB League this year and showed a bit in the Trials game for Metro, could go late first round if he has a good year, kicked 15.7 in 8 games and 2 goals in the Vic Trials

Xavier Walsh - 193cm KPF/KPD East Perth - was a good defender in the u17 Trials in WA, was one of WA's best as a KPF in the u16's this year playing as an overager, courageous and good in the air, kicked 4 goals in 3 games at the u16's and was a great lead up on the wing/half forw to get i50's, so played both roles as lead up forward and goal threat

then you have 2 players who play KPF but are a little short, it depends if they grow like Cadman did this year in Nate Caddy who is 190or192cm heard conflicting reports and Logan Morris at 192cm, if they grow an inch or 2 they could also develop that game for the next level, Caddy going pretty early and Morris a little later.

thats what i know of so far.
 
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Archer Reid - 201cm KPF from Gippsland - brother of the essendon Reid, had a huge Vic Country Trials game where he dominated, was quiet in the u18 champs in 2-3 games, but another year in the gym and he has the potential to go first round, 11.8 in 9 games, but his Trials form against the best in the NAB League was so strong it gives an indication of what he could be capable of when he fills out.

Jed Walter - 194cm KPF GCS A - linked to Gold Coast, kicked 9 goals in 4 games at the u18's champs and just has a great all round game, likely to go first round

Riley Witherill - 195cm KPF Eastern - has been good in the NAB League this year and showed a bit in the Trials game for Metro, could go late first round if he has a good year, kicked 15.7 in 8 games and 2 goals in the Vic Trials

Xavier Walsh - 193cm KPF/KPD East Perth - was a good defender in the u17 Trials in WA, was one of WA's best as a KPF in the u16's this year playing as an overager, courageous and good in the air, kicked 4 goals in 3 games at the u16's and was a great lead up on the wing/half forw to get i50's, so played both roles as lead up forward and goal threat

then you have 2 players who play KPF but are a little short, it depends if they grow like Cadman did this year in Nate Caddy who is 190or192cm heard conflicting reports and Logan Morris at 192cm, if they grow an inch or 2 they could also develop that game for the next level, Caddy going pretty early and Morris a little later.

thats what i know of so far.
You could potentially add Dan Curtin to the mix aswell, plays best as a defender but can certainly swing forward as he has done at school and colts level.
 

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a report on Fox Sports that has stats from the carnival (per game)

Will Ashcroft - 33.3 disp, 15 cont poss, 10 clearances, 6.7 tackles
Jhye Clark - 24.7 disp, 9 marks, 9.7 cont poss, 2 score assists
Cam MacKenzie - 26.3 disp, 9.7 cont poss, 4.7 i50
Aaron Cadman - 7.7(score)
Matthew Jefferson - 12.2(score)
Lewis Hayes - 15.7 disp, 5 marks, 84% DE by foot
Jedd Busslinger - 70% DE by foot
Olli Hotton - 19.3 disp, 6 goals in 3 games
Harry Rowston - 23 disp, 11 cont poss, 5.8 i50, 5 clearances, 3 goals in 4 games
Reuben Ginbey - 20.8 disp, 9.8 cont poss
Darcy Jones - 19.7 disp, 8 cont poss, 4 goals in 3 games
Mitch Szybkowski - 27.3 disp, 10.3 cont poss, 4.3 i50
Will Dowling - 24 disp
Jakob Ryan - 20 disp
Jaspa Fletcher - 22.7 disp, 9.7 cont poss, 3 goals in 3 games
Henry Hustwaite - 21.7 disp, 10.3 cont poss, 4.3 tackles
Elijah Hewett - 19 disp
Blake Drury - 21 disp, 3 goals in 3 games
Adam D'Aloia - 24 disp, 14 cont poss, 7.2 clearances, 6.2 tackles (SA MVP even after being played flank in the 1st game)
Jaxon Binns - 27.3 disp, 7.7 i50, 46.6%DE by foot(major issue)
Lachlan Cowan - 22.2 disp

Harley Reid - 20.7 disp, 6.3 marks, 87.5% DE by foot - best player for next year
 

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1. Brisbane (bid) - Will Ashcroft
2. North Melb - George Wardlaw
3. WCE - Harry Sheezel
4. Adelaide - Jhye Clark
5. GWS - Aaron Cadman
6. Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
7. Hawthorn - Cam Mackenzie
8. GCS - Jedd Busslinger
9. Port Adel - Mattaes Phillipou
10. Richmond - Matthew Jefferson
11. St Kilda - Isaac Keeler
12. Western - Mitch Syzbkowski
13. Carlton - Lewis Hayes
14. Sydney - Oliver Hollands
15. Fremantle - Reuben Ginbey
16. Collingwood - Elijah Hewett
17. Sydney - Brayden George
18. Geelong - Olivier Northam

Missing out - Adam DAloia, Anthony Munkara, Tom McCallum, Jacob Konstanty, Harry Barnett, Jaspa Fletcher, Olli Hotton ect
 
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Brisbane (bid) - Will Ashcroft
North Melb - George Wardlaw
WCE - Harry Sheezel
Adelaide - Jhye Clark
GWS - Aaron Cadman
Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
Hawthorn - Cam Mackenzie
GCS - Jedd Busslinger
Port Adel - Mattaes Phillipou
Richmond - Matthew Jefferson
St Kilda - Isaac Keeler
Western - Mitch Syzbkowski
Carlton - Lewis Hayes
Sydney - Oliver Hollands
Fremantle - Reuben Ginbey
Collingwood - Elijah Hewett
Sydney - Brayden George
Geelong - Olivier Northam

Missing out - Adam DAloia, Anthony Munkara, Tom McCallum, Jacob Konstanty, Harry Barnett, Jaspa Fletcher, Olli Hotton ect
I don't think any team here would be disappointed or unhappy with their selections. Bulldogs might grab Hayes over Szy though. Hewett at 17 is highway robbery.
 

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Gee Hewett has really fallen off. Would be an absolute steal.
 

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Gee Hewett has really fallen off. Would be an absolute steal.
had 1 big game at the champs and 3 quieter average games to average only 19 disposals, he can be a good attacking midfielder, someone earlier this year said he lacks a contested ball winning side to his game, maybe they were right? also he was always considered in the range of 4-15, i think his WAFL Colts GF efforts and his games last year in the u19's series won people over and we hoped to see more of that, but he was kept quiet in a few games this year so probably goes more to the end of his range than early in his range, also Ginbey and Jones upstaged him in his own team at the champs a bit, i still rank him around 10-12 but just for this phantom draft i had him slide a couple of places.
 

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Phantom Draft - 1st round

1. Brisbane (bid) - Will Ashcroft
2. North Melb - George Wardlaw
3. WCE - Harry Sheezel
4. Adelaide - Jhye Clark
5. GWS - Aaron Cadman
6. Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
7. Hawthorn - Cam Mackenzie
8. GCS - Jedd Busslinger
9. Port Adel - Mattaes Phillipou
10. Richmond - Matthew Jefferson
11. St Kilda - Isaac Keeler
12. Western - Mitch Syzbkowski
13. Carlton - Lewis Hayes
14. Sydney - Oliver Hollands
15. Fremantle - Reuben Ginbey
16. Collingwood - Elijah Hewett
17. Sydney - Brayden George
18. Geelong - Olivier Northam

Missing out - Adam DAloia, Anthony Munkara, Tom McCallum, Jacob Konstanty, Harry Barnett, Jaspa Fletcher, Olli Hotton ect
i think it's pretty safe to assume that freo won't have a first rounder.
 

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Best players from the 3 teams who have finished up their champs games so far (from my points ranking system)

WA -
Ginbey - 56 pts in 4 games(14), kicking 1 goal
Hewett - 52 pts in 4 games(13), kicking 2 goals
Jones - 39 pts in 3 games(13), kicking 4 goals
Busslinger - 26 pts in 2 games(13)
Hagan - 33 pts in 3 games(11), kicking 4 goals
Sanchez - 21 pts in 2 games(10.5), kicking 3 goals
Gilbey - 25 pts in 3 games(8.33)
Cleaver - 33 pts in 4 games(8.25), kicking 2 goals
Green - 31 pts in 4 games(7.75), kicking 1 goal
M.Edwards - 31 pts in 4 games(7.75)
Michael - 23 pts in 3 games(7.66)

Baker, Hardeman, Broadbent and Allan close to the 7 pt cut off

SA -
D'Aloia - 45 pts in 4 games(11.25), kicking 3 goals
Ridgeway - 11 pts in 1 game(11)
Phillipou - 42 pts in 4 games(10.5), kicking 4 goals
Dowling - 39 pts in 4 games(9.75)
Keeler - 36 pts in 4 games(9), kicking 5 goals
K.Ryan - 26 pts in 3 games(8.66), kicking 2 goals
Walker - 29 pts in 4 games(7.25), kicking 2 goals
Lovelock - 28 pts in 4 games(7), kicking 4 goals

Magor close to the 7 put cut off

Allies -
Fletcher - 26 pts in 3 games(9.33), kicking 1 goal
Walter - 36 pts in 4 games(9), kicking 9 goals
Anderson - 34 pts in 4 games(8.5), kicking 2 goals
McCallum - 33 pts in 4 games(8.25)
Madden - 33 pts in 4 games(8.25)
Rogers - 16 pts in 2 games(8), kicking 1 goal

Rowston and Cowan close to the 7 pt cut off
 

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1. Brisbane (bid) - Will Ashcroft
2. North Melb - George Wardlaw
3. WCE - Harry Sheezel
4. Adelaide - Jhye Clark
5. GWS - Aaron Cadman
6. Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
7. Hawthorn - Cam Mackenzie
8. GCS - Jedd Busslinger
9. Port Adel - Mattaes Phillipou
10. Richmond - Matthew Jefferson
11. St Kilda - Isaac Keeler
12. Western - Mitch Syzbkowski
13. Carlton - Lewis Hayes
14. Sydney - Oliver Hollands
15. Fremantle - Reuben Ginbey
16. Collingwood - Elijah Hewett
17. Sydney - Brayden George
18. Geelong - Olivier Northam

Missing out - Adam DAloia, Anthony Munkara, Tom McCallum, Jacob Konstanty, Harry Barnett, Jaspa Fletcher, Olli Hotton ect
Thanks Davo - how do you rate tsatas compared to Callaghan last year? Expect hawks to finish below dons (but will likely be some strange results in next few weeks as clubs out cue in rack).
 

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Thanks Davo - how do you rate tsatas compared to Callaghan last year? Expect hawks to finish below dons (but will likely be some strange results in next few weeks as clubs out cue in rack).
similar type of player, Callaghan probably better in traffic as his side steps were terrific, but Tsatas probably wins more of the footy.
 

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