News Dean Bailey To The Tiges?

[tigs2010]

My question (not statement, see the difference) was to whoever said that it was a bit insulting to Neeld to bring in Craig after him saying he was ready to be top dog, I wasn't saying Craig would be above Dimma just that maybe it was more insulting to Dimma to change the coaching structure & bring in a very experienced senior assistant, seems a little strange to majorly alter the coaching structure, like they've identified that something is not working.

Maybe I'm wrong, but again it was just a question in relation to Neeld "being delegated a mentor".

BTW, not that I feel any need to justify myself, but I live interstate, still went to about 10 games & 4 of those were RFC



Don't believe everything you read, the "mentor" thing was made up by a journo at the Age, it wasn't a statement of fact & cbf finding the article but it said something like "he's been appointed director of sports performance, a role which should see him act as a mentor to Neeld". Any other reports say he'll provide support, obviously

Yes you are right that the role at Melbourne is bigger than the apparent role offered of senior assistant at RFC & it's likely a larger pay packet.

Craig's role is director of sports performance, which MFC have stated is an overarching role of several roles including the senior coach & we have a Footy Ops manager to, while a slightly different structure, how is it any different from Craig Cameron & Ross Monaghan positions? So if that's what Craig is doing, which one of them is Dimma's babysitter?

Last time i checked its the RFC board so whoever said it can say what they want about club186. We aren't changing the coaching structure at all. Just adding 4 new staff in. Maybe you should attend 10 MFC games instead. If some other follow your lead then u just never know

 

[Equus]

Damn. This thread has become nothing but an entertaining slinging match.

Bailey will just be an assistant, not some overarching overlord mentoring Dimma. Probably the same position that the RFC offered Craig.

 

[NQTIGER]

Damn. This thread has become nothing but an entertaining slinging match.

Bailey will just be an assistant, not some overarching overlord mentoring Dimma.

Unlike Craig at melbourne......or should we say club 314..... What a pissweak club and supporter group send in outriders to copy posts and slag people on their board.

Mind you they still have Cameron Schwab and Chris Connoly there to lead up the old boys club so it is to be expected.

 

[Demon 86]

Don't understand why so many tigers fans are so insecure here...

Bailey will be an excellent assistant provided he has no say in the gameplan. He is a renowned developer of players and excellent communicator. If I were RFC he would easily be my second choice behind Craig and well ahead of Eade in this sort of role.

 

[NQTIGER]

Don't understand why so many tigers fans are so insecure here...

Bailey will be an excellent assistant provided he has no say in the gameplan. He is a renowned developer of players and excellent communicator. If I were RFC he would easily be my second choice behind Craig and well ahead of Eade in this sort of role.

You need to be accurate, Bailey may be appointed as an assistant , Craig is the Overlord, check your clubs website.

So no we arent the insecure ones, trying to make a head of coaches honcho look like an appointment of an assistant.

 

[Demon 86]

You need to be accurate, Bailey may be appointed as an assistant , Craig is the Overlord, check your clubs website.

So no we arent the insecure ones, trying to make a head of coaches honcho look like an appointment of an assistant.

Sorry if you misinterpreted my post- I'll make it a bit clearer/simpler

For the role available at Richmond Bailey would be an extremely close second to Craig and miles ahead of Eade in terms of who'd be better (and evidently the RFC agrees by chasing Craig then Bailey and not Eade). So good get tigs!

 

[NQTIGER]

Sorry if you misinterpreted my post- I'll make it a bit clearer/simpler

For the role available at Richmond Bailey would be an extremely close second to Craig and miles ahead of Eade in terms of who'd be better (and evidently the RFC agrees by chasing Craig then Bailey and not Eade). So good get tigs!

I will make it even easier for you we offered Craig an assistants position, he wanted to pull the strings of the coach, we didnt need someone like that, we needed an assistant.

Your club supporters are saying that Craig is NOT there to pull the strings of the coach, unfortunately , the powers that be at Demonland felt differently about that so out bid Carlton for his services.

As so eloquently put we were fourth in line for Neils services so we were never a strong suitor, its pretty obvious that Neil being the canny bloke that he is used the RFC , Carlton, and Brisbane to boost his paypacket.

That became pretty obvious when after the MFC told all and sundry that they needed and were going to get an experienced coach first it was Ross the boss, then Mick, then Leigh, was there any Coaching legend that they didnt chase?

They plumped for the experienced Mark Neeld.

There was a glaring need for an All reaching overlord at the MFC. So they took Neil Craig on a mammoth salary, Kudos to the Blues for forcing you guys to overpay.

 

[tigs2010]

Wonder if he could have taught Jordan McMahon not to kick so straight if you'd got in earlier..??

You still singing "Oh were from Tigerland..." Probably got the words tattooed on u somewhere. You do realise that because of Melbourne's drafting ability we ended up with Dustin Martin? And after 4 cracks at it by MFC that Freo still got Nat Fyfe? Epic lulz from the rest of the AFL. The fact you bring it up makes me think you must be about 14. Did you sing "We are the Power to win..." when PA secured pick 12 for you?

Don't understand why so many tigers fans are so insecure here...

Bailey will be an excellent assistant provided he has no say in the gameplan. He is a renowned developer of players and excellent communicator. If I were RFC he would easily be my second choice behind Craig and well ahead of Eade in this sort of role.

lol wut?

Tom Scully thread says hi!! "MFC Supporters Only." At least if u bothered to read the thread all your supporters are doing as trolling. Maybe we should make this thread RFC Supporters Only if we were so insecure?

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=869878

We've been interviewing Dean and Craig for some time and dropped out of the race for Craig. You really think we would miss out on Craig and then we are on the verge of signing Bailey in 24 hours?

 

[NQTIGER]

Lol MFC supporters only posted on these websites

www.club186.com.au and www.club314.org

 

[tigs2010]

Lol MFC supporters only posted on these websites

www.club186.com.au and www.club314.org

Very clever NQT. You left a few out though.

www.westillemployrawlingsandroyal.com

and

www.ournumber1draftpickleftuscozweareatankingrabble.org

 

[Truetiger]

Mind you they still have Cameron Schwab and Chris Connoly there to lead up the old boys club so it is to be expected.

Dont forget they have Royal as well and Rawlings them 2 alone would bring Melbourne success.

 

[Trav 20]

we offered Craig an assistants position, he wanted to pull the strings of the coach...

You should write children's short stories. Your post is full of wild speculation to satisfy your own concerns about missing out on Craig and you also choose to disigenuously misrepresent the MFC.

Let me help you out with a couple of quotes: "In Mark Neeld I see a coach that has a clear vision and I wanted to be part of this coaching group". And this from the club: "The reporting structure shall not, in any way, dilute the status, scope or significance of the role of Senior Coach".

Also, you may like to use quotes and identify to me where the MFC said that they were after an "experienced coach" ? I assume you'll merely respond by saying that we were interested in Clarkson and Malthouse. Let me answer in anticipation of your inevitable response, the MFC wanted the best coach available. They got him.

 

[tigs2010]

You should write children's short stories. Your post is full of wild speculation to satisfy your own concerns about missing out on Craig and you also choose to disigenuously misrepresent the MFC.

Let me help you out with a couple of quotes: "In Mark Neeld I see a coach that has a clear vision and I wanted to be part of this coaching group". And this from the club: "The reporting structure shall not, in any way, dilute the status, scope or significance of the role of Senior Coach".

Also, you may like to use quotes and identify to me where the MFC said that they were after an "experienced coach" ? I assume you'll merely respond by saying that we were interested in Clarkson and Malthouse. Let me answer in anticipation of your inevitable response, the MFC wanted the best coach available. They got him.

He's actually right.

It's the exact position we offered him. I'd go search for the quote from RFCO but seriously cbf. JADE THE BLADE....

 

[NQTIGER]

Just so we are not misquoting the MFC

"The position will provide leadership, strategic direction and management support across all aspects of the Football Department’s performance structure including Senior Coach Mark Neeld, Elite Performance Manager David Misson and General Manager, Player Development & Strategy Todd Viney.

As part of this, a key responsibility for the Director of Sport Performance will be supporting, developing and mentoring the coaching team. The role will strongly focus on the establishment of an elite performance culture, in particular strategy and innovation."

We targeted Neil Craig for this role as we sought to secure our coaching structure. As with Mark Neeld, Neil Craig was our first choice for this position and we are delighted he has accepted this role.

Or is there something im missing about direction and management and the need for Craig to "secure" the coaching structure?

Surely with the appointment of your first choice in neeld the coaching structure was secure............

 

[Livonski]

The role at RFC for Craig would have been the link between the medical room and the coaching staff. Sports Science. It's about treating injuries to get the player back out on the park, not just to get him healthy. THere's a difference. And the issue is important from both angles as the coaches need to understand how quickly a player can get back to play (not necessarily 100%) and the fitness staff need to understand how to treat players such that they can play, not necessarily 100%. Craigs understanding of both sides would make the management/communication between both sides effective.
He would also have brought experience with structures and setups etc.

My point is that Craig and Bailey are mutually exclusive, not going for the same job, so to say we missed on Craig and picked Bailey instead is b.s.
Secondly, Craig did not invent "sports science", there might just be someone else out there that knows all about it, and is more up to date with current trends than a bloke who's been doing something else for 7 or 8 years.

I'm a big fan of Dimma and the RFC building their own dynasty rather than recycling big names. Let's create something new, do it ourselves, break new ground with fresh ideas from a younger energetic coaching staff. Do it our way.

 

[ize_]

The last 10 pages of this thread are exactly the same...

 

[Demon 86]

I will make it even easier for you we offered Craig an assistants position, he wanted to pull the strings of the coach, we didnt need someone like that, we needed an assistant.

Your club supporters are saying that Craig is NOT there to pull the strings of the coach, unfortunately , the powers that be at Demonland felt differently about that so out bid Carlton for his services.

As so eloquently put we were fourth in line for Neils services so we were never a strong suitor, its pretty obvious that Neil being the canny bloke that he is used the RFC , Carlton, and Brisbane to boost his paypacket.

That became pretty obvious when after the MFC told all and sundry that they needed and were going to get an experienced coach first it was Ross the boss, then Mick, then Leigh, was there any Coaching legend that they didnt chase?

They plumped for the experienced Mark Neeld.

There was a glaring need for an All reaching overlord at the MFC. So they took Neil Craig on a mammoth salary, Kudos to the Blues for forcing you guys to overpay.

Um ok thats all very nice but has nothing to do with what I said. Again (I don't know how to be any clearer) in my opinion, for the Richmond position I would have Craig first, Bailey a very close second and Eade nowhere near it.

 

[tigs2010]

Um ok thats all very nice but has nothing to do with what I said. Again (I don't know how to be any clearer) in my opinion, for the Richmond position I would have Craig first, Bailey a very close second and Eade nowhere near it.

That's all very nice but maybe our club knows better than some Melbourne fan who spent the last 6 months in the snow.

 

[Trav 20]

He's actually right.

It's the exact position we offered him. I'd go search for the quote from RFCO but seriously cbf. JADE THE BLADE....

The bolding of the word "assistant" came from the poster I was replying to. I wasn't referring to what the RFC offered Craig. More so, I was replying to his insinuations regarding Craig and Craig's motivation for joining the MFC.

 

[Livonski]

Um ok thats all very nice but has nothing to do with what I said. Again (I don't know how to be any clearer) in my opinion, for the Richmond position I would have Craig first, Bailey a very close second and Eade nowhere near it.

FFS, the Richmond "position" for Craig is not the same "position" for Bailey. THe job specs are completely different.
If you had a brain you would have worked out for yourself that their cv's are poles apart and therefore they could not possibly both be suited for the same position.

 

[tigs2010]

FFS, the Richmond "position" for Craig is not the same "position" for Bailey. THe job specs are completely different.
If you had a brain you would have worked out for yourself that their cv's are poles apart and therefore they could not possibly both be suited for the same position.

It actually is. RFCO has said we were after Craig as a senior assistant.

 

[Bojangles17]

if it does eventuate wonder what the mood would be like with brad Miller around, I reckon mad dog would greet him with a liverpool kiss and it would be all upward from there as they agree to put the past behind them

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

Just wondering why we are letting these melbourne flogs write derogatory things towards "our" fellow tiger board members and get away with it when i'm sure if we went onto their board and did the same, there would be yellow cards thrown about like confetti.....

 

[tigs2010]

The bolding of the word "assistant" came from the poster I was replying to. I wasn't referring to what the RFC offered Craig. More so, I was replying to his insinuations regarding Craig and Craig's motivation for joining the MFC.

Why qoute that bit then? He was right about that bit lol.

 

[tigs2010]

Just wondering why we are letting these melbourne flogs write derogatory things towards "our" fellow tiger board members and get away with it when i'm sure if we went onto their board and did the same, there would be yellow cards thrown about like confetti.....

yellow? There flog mods joke about handing out cards over on their board. Who cares though? It's funny they are quoting posts on their board from ours because they won't risk it here. It is getting tiresome though considering we haven't appointed Bailey yet they have Rawlings and Royal lmao