Deconstructing the JonBenet Ramsey case - Delphi Murders

[Kurve]

Crime board thread: JonBenet Ramsey

 

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det Arndt at autopsy said dr found dark fibers and dark hairs in her crotch but that he didnt submit this evidence on the autopsy report.

JonBenets crotch was found to have been wipes down with a cloth, and suffered an injury akin to digital penetration.

Police suspected possible child pr0n involvement in this case, and confiscated computers and did forensic electronic searches for possible child pr0n....but none was found. Family was very upset that this info was leaked to media causing much pain for the family publicly.

MS talks about how there are rumors of sexual abuse of benet by possibly her father, apparently an unusual amount of dr visits for benet.....he says he will look into this rumor in a later episode.

 

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Partially unwrapped presents belonging to Burk were found in the wine cellar where benets body was found.

I think that adds to the BDI theory. Like he got mad she took his presents as a troll on him.

 

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Footprints imprinted in the mould on the floor of the wine cellar....one was a high tech shoe. Parents claimed no one in the house owned a pair, but later police found Burk owned a pair, and then the family were all dismissive oh yeah he does own a pair.

But a counterpoint was that high tech shoes are often worn by police, so obviously a cop walked in there. But a later counterpoint was that no officer wearing a high tech boot ever entered the wine cellar

And the print has never been determined if it was a kids or adults shoe because the prints were only very partial.

 

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Patsys sister Pam took a lot of stuff out of the house, clothes, and many other personal items. Police agitated by that. Pam countered, no, police always there and decided if i could or couldnt take stuff. Later police said items she took have permanently gone missing when later they requested to re-analyze it.

 

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Police later looked into theory hi-tech print was from police. Police investigated all officers, to turn in their hi-tech boots, some officers didnt. No matches tho. Later it was rumored to be a SAS type of hi-tech, but this was never investigated.

Fleet White, one of the bits of evidence why he broke off friendship with the ramsays was because he knew butk owned a pair tho family denied anyone did. Also possible White saw the print when John found the body, before the police ever went down to the cellar. Fleet also said his son and Burk were buddies and both owned hi-tech boots, why he knew.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Ok how about this...

Fleet White called 911 at the party on 23 December.

What if something happened to JonBenet that night, and he called for an ambulance out of instinct, but then was quickly told no hang up don't alert the authorities.

THEN on boxing day, they staged the event. That's why Fleet White went downstairs to 'check' the basement. But he didn't actually because JB was already known to be dead.

Then as planned John found her at 1pm.

Fleet then disgusted by the whole situation cuts off the friendship with the Ramsey's.

Quite far fetched I know but just came to mind based on the start of episode 6

 

[FrankGrimes]

Ok how about this...

Fleet White called 911 at the party on 23 December.

What if something happened to JonBenet that night, and he called for an ambulance out of instinct, but then was quickly told no hang up don't alert the authorities.

THEN on boxing day, they staged the event. That's why Fleet White went downstairs to 'check' the basement. But he didn't actually because JB was already known to be dead.

Then as planned John found her at 1pm.

Fleet then disgusted by the whole situation cuts off the friendship with the Ramsey's.

Quite far fetched I know but just came to mind based on the start of episode 6

A 3 day old body is a lot different to a 1 day old body..

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Also it is peculiar that Fleet White was using the Ramsey's phone, and then the other lady friend answered the door when the policeman arrived on 23 DEC.

Why were they doing this at the Ramsey's address?

ALLEGEDLY Fleet was trying to call a hospital or some such about his mother.

 

[exe ex machina]

Ok how about this...

Fleet White called 911 at the party on 23 December.

What if something happened to JonBenet that night, and he called for an ambulance out of instinct, but then was quickly told no hang up don't alert the authorities.

THEN on boxing day, they staged the event. That's why Fleet White went downstairs to 'check' the basement. But he didn't actually because JB was already known to be dead.

Then as planned John found her at 1pm.

Fleet then disgusted by the whole situation cuts off the friendship with the Ramsey's.

Quite far fetched I know but just came to mind based on the start of episode 6

That Dec 23 party is sus. The silent 911 call, a stranger answering door to a cop and refusing to let him in

 

[exe ex machina]

A 3 day old body is a lot different to a 1 day old body..

Arndt said when john first brought the body up the stairs, a strong odor of decay was already present. How soon do dead bodies start rotting?

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

This episode is giving me the creeps... it's too late for this shit.


FUBARed

 

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MS.....will do an episode on John Andrew, a lot of suspicious stuff that needs looking into. Like how he was cleared because he was in Georgia the night before, but apparently was supposedly seen in Boulder....so will do an episode on him.

But for now, this episode....He also owned a pair of hitec boots.

MS

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

MS.....will do an episode on John Andrew, a lot of suspicious stuff that needs looking into. Like how he was cleared because he was in Georgia the night before, but apparently was supposedly seen in Boulder....so will do an episode on him.

But for now, this episode....He also owned a pair of hitec boots.

MS

Are you on Ep 6? I think we're at the same point

 

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Three palm prints were found on the wine cellar door. Two were found to belong to Patsy. One was later found to belong to Melinda!!! Omg the half sister, and sister of John Andrew. These palm prints were long not disclosed, for years, as theyd hurt the intruder theory.

 

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Are you on Ep 6? I think we're at the same point

Almost finished ep 4

 

[Kurve]

Also it is peculiar that Fleet White was using the Ramsey's phone, and then the other lady friend answered the door when the policeman arrived on 23 DEC.

Why were they doing this at the Ramsey's address?

ALLEGEDLY Fleet was trying to call a hospital or some such about his mother.

The lady who answered the Ramsey's door to the police was Susan Stine, she's nicknamed 'Patsy's pitbull'. I've been trying to get more information on her, she's married to Glenn Stine and I don't know how many children they have but one of them is called Doug.

 

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Oh good info....melindas palm print found on the door.....it was determined it was hers because police confiscated a family video from august that showed melinda putting her hand on the door in the exact same spot.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Ok... this guy who was living in the Barnhill's basement who was unknown to the Ramsey's is suss as ****

 

[Kurve]

Three palm prints were found on the wine cellar door. Two were found to belong to Patsy. One was later found to belong to Melinda!!! Omg the half sister, and sister of John Andrew. These palm prints were long not disclosed, for years, as theyd hurt the intruder theory.

Apparently at the last Easter, the family had an easter egg hunt and Melinda hid easter eggs in the wine cellar. It's thought that was why her palm print was on the door.

 

[Kurve]

Oh good info....melindas palm print found on the door.....it was determined it was hers because police confiscated a family video from august that showed melinda putting her hand on the door in the exact same spot.

August? The information is getting mixed up somewhere but probably not important, her palm print can be explained.

 

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August? The information is getting mixed up somewhere but probably not important, her palm print can be explained.

Yeah sorry maybe misheard as i type im listening. But yeah, showing how MS goes over every info, and tears stuff apart looking for only the truth.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

The Barnhill's were reportedly told by one of the Ramsey's investigators: Do not ever talk about what you saw on the morning of the murder.

The Ramsey's cut off communication after the death, despite the fact that they were close, and the Barnhill's owned the Ramsey's dog...

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Ok... this guy who was living in the Barnhill's basement who was unknown to the Ramsey's is suss as fu**

February 2018... this mans wife claims he killed her...

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Ok this Glenn Meyer bloke is a serious contender.

 

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Interesting interview with Patsy that MS reads out. Patsy is asked about the basement laundry, who uses it, does she use it, would anyone else, etc ...she says only her really, she used it to pack presents and do other bits of stuff, and also Linda used it when washing heavy items like bedsheets etc. Interviewer says if she ever recalls photos of Benet in the laundry. She says no. No to general pics of her, and no to pictures of her in the laundry. Interviewer says would it surprise you if photos of benet in the laundry were found. She says yes it would. Interviewer asks would you ever just run and grab a camera and take a photo of benet if you saw her doing something random and cute. She says yes, but not in the laundry. No recollection.

Other people suggest maybe inappropriate photos of benet were found in the laundry that Patsy was unaware of. Why that interviewers line of questioning seemed pointed and obscure.

MS just reading it.