Autopsy DELIRIUM

[Ashley B]

The umpire never called advantage . And thank f k he didn’t as the 2 stooges missed lol

 

[choppy]

The umpire never called advantage . And thank f k he didn’t as the 2 stooges missed lol

Calling Larkey and Curtis the two stooges is such a keyboard warrior Generation Z level response

Would you say to Nick or Paul to their face

Hey you two stooges ...

No you wouldnt

Its so pathetic

In the 80s you would have got a punch in the mouth and you would have STFU

 

[Event Horizon]

Bang on. Far too much attention being paid to Larkey and not enough to the umpire, who at no point looks like he’s going to do anything other than set the mark.

Agreed, but that doesn't change the fact that Larkey, as captain and a leader, should have known better. It was either a rush of blood (inexcusable) or he didn't hear the whistle, which I am happy to give him the benefit of the doubt, just because we won.

 

[Ashley B]

Hey , I love them both but it looked terrible.

 

[speedy]

Razor Ray said advantage should have been called. That’s enough endorsement for me to know it wasn’t advantage and advantage will never ever be called in that situation, because razor is and always will be a ****wit.

 

[Caracas]

love how our full forward captain preaches "play your role boys", but misses a goal from one meter out when the ball drop didn't connect with his foot!

In fairness, it’s hard to score a goal when the ball drop doesn’t connect with your foot. Nobody seems to be talking about the absolutely worse meal of it that Curtis made after that…

 

[hilly]

I like Larkey.

 

[goalieboy82]

and as always (after a win) i will be doing The Scamper next time i go to riding (at his grave while playing the club song)

and i did today (it was a rainy day here but i still did)

 

[Supa_Nova]

Calling Larkey and Curtis the two stooges is such a keyboard warrior Generation Z level response

Would you say to Nick or Paul to their face

Hey you two stooges ...

No you wouldnt

Its so pathetic

In the 80s you would have got a punch in the mouth and you would have STFU

I would, but in an endearing way and for a laugh with them. "If you 2 stooges stuffed it up hahaha Benny hill music. I love you both. Please sign this"

 

[Twinkletoes]

I presume the players were aware of there being only seconds left. It would’ve been made clear at the centre bounce prior.

With that in mind, and with scores level, my biggest surprise was that Larkey didn’t just punch the bloody Sherrin through to put us ahead. A lite touch would’ve done.

Annnnyway….thankfully things turned out ok.

 

[big_e]

Razor Ray said advantage should have been called. That’s enough endorsement for me to know it wasn’t advantage and advantage will never ever be called in that situation, because razor is and always will be a ****wit.

I actually don't mind Ray, but I watched that segment and while it was well explained, he missed the critical point - did an advantage actually exist in the first place?

Everything in the rule - demonstrating an intent to continue play - assumes that the team infringed against has some advantage, and that simply is not the case when the ball is in dispute.

 

[DuckYeah]

if you watch the Inside Access the club released, Souv says to CD that he didn't hear the whistle, still doesn't excuse the cluster between him and PC but to call him selfish is way off the mark

Then he needs to clean his ears out. If you can hear the whistle with screaming fans in your ear, he can hear it on the football field. He absolutely heard the whistle

 

[DuckYeah]

I actually don't mind Ray, but I watched that segment and while it was well explained, he missed the critical point - did an advantage actually exist in the first place?

Everything in the rule - demonstrating an intent to continue play - assumes that the team infringed against has some advantage, and that simply is not the case when the ball is in dispute.

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Darling shouting “NICK ****ING STOP”

Darling then grabbed PC .. “ WTF ARE YOU DOING”

 

[DuckYeah]

Four umpires had no issue with Mac Andrew throwing the ball or Matt Rowell taking on tacklers with no consequence.

I have issues with the handball rule. Anything that shapes as a throw is a throw in my book. The nick daicos toss over the head, i’d pin that shit as a throw. The art of the handball is dead. The way it is, there is no point even having the handball

 

[Tas]

I actually don't mind Ray, but I watched that segment and while it was well explained, he missed the critical point - did an advantage actually exist in the first place?

Everything in the rule - demonstrating an intent to continue play - assumes that the team infringed against has some advantage, and that simply is not the case when the ball is in dispute.

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The rule as written is...

21.2 THE ADVANTAGE RULE
A field Umpire will call and signal ‘Advantage’ where a Team offended against demonstrates an intent to continue with play within a reasonable time.

The problem is we have the written rule, then we have the AFL's interpretation of the rules and they can often be vastly different to what is written.

A few years ago the umpires adjudicated the rule as it was written, so when a player played on it was called play on regardless of the circumstance and everyone hated it because players rightfully argued that they weren't playing on, they were in the motion before they were aware a free kick had been paid.

The current "interpretation" is the umpire has to make a decision based on the individual circumstances as to if the player is aware a free kick was played and if there is realistic advantage. The ball was loose and in contention when the free kick was paid, how can a player play on when they do not have the ball? When the ball is loose on the ground, they generally call it back to where the free kick was paid.

We all look at the video in slow motion but the decision had to be made in a split second, there are four umpires and none of them attempted to correct the decision. At the end of the day the umpire didn't call play on at any point, it is not like he called play on then brought it back after Larkey and Curtis clowned the shots on goal, the umpire had already decided before that there wasn't an advantage as it was a contested loose ball scenario and pretty much any player would choose a set shot from 25-30m out dead in front to a contested ball scenario.

There was clearly a period of time between when the free kick was paid and when Larkey was in possession of the ball and the umpire in this circumstance felt there was a long enough period where there wasn't advantage that it should go back to Zurhaar.

I don't really care either way because they don't change results, but the umpires would come under more fire if they paid the rule as written because that is what happened when they did it in the past. There is a reason they changed it, nobody was happy with it.

I think if Larkey had picked the ball up right away and it didn't spill to the ground and was a contested ball scenario then I think the umpire would have called play on. There wasn't clear advantage at the point the free kick was paid or right after, Larkey eventually did take possession of it but by that time the umpire had already decided to bring it back to Zurhaar.

The question is, would have the umpire brought it back had either Larkey or Curtis kicked the goal? Who knows, sometimes they do. Sometimes they do not. I think they just need to be better with communicating the rules to the clubs and the public.

 

[ferball]

The current "interpretation" is the umpire has to make a decision based on the individual circumstances as to if the player is aware a free kick was played and if there is realistic advantage. The ball was loose and in contention when the free kick was paid, how can a player play on when they do not have the ball? When the ball is loose on the ground, they generally call it back to where the free kick was paid.

We all look at the video in slow motion but the decision had to be made in a split second, there are four umpires and none of them attempted to correct the decision. At the end of the day the umpire didn't call play on at any point, it is not like he called play on then brought it back after Larkey and Curtis clowned the shots on goal, the umpire had already decided before that there wasn't an advantage as it was a contested loose ball scenario and pretty much any player would choose a set shot from 25-30m out dead in front to a contested ball scenario.

There was clearly a period of time between when the free kick was paid and when Larkey was in possession of the ball and the umpire in this circumstance felt there was a long enough period where there wasn't advantage that it should go back to Zurhaar.

Yep.


I've seen the ball brought back enough after that amount of time recently when there was an advantage the team with the free had, that I think the only reason this fuss is happening is cos it was us.

 

[Ashley B]

You couldn’t call play on hoping that the player from the same team might run onto the ball. In fact from memory Nick was behind Collins chasing and ran passed him . Correct call imo and unbelievably it was a free to us, right in front .

 

[Ashley B]

I would, but in an endearing way and for a laugh with them. "If you 2 stooges stuffed it up hahaha Benny hill music. I love you both. Please sign this"

 

[Johnny99]

I loved it because umpire incompetence was costing us badly the whole game.
I counted at least 4 decisions in the last quarter alone.
And in the end, it was umpire incompetence that gave us the win.
So heck the cheating maggots!

 

[OG Real]

The funny thing is that 9 times out of 10 any umpire would’ve called ‘Play On’ for us, allowing us to shoot ourselves in the foot (normally typical for us) and the football world laughs at us BUT for once, that 1 in 10 time we got the call going our way and of course that stands out like a sore thumb.

I personally believe that the umpire waited to see if there was an advantage, to his eyes there wasn’t a clear one and he made the decision to bring it back himself - which he should have the power to do as an umpire, and I believe that’s normally the rule too, right?

In any case I’m glad Nick messed up the potential advantage so we could get that kick after the siren euphoria that will now live in NMFC history forever, and as Cam said post game “who cares we got the 4 points.”

 

[Conundrum]

Darling shouting “NICK ****ING STOP”

Darling then grabbed PC .. “ WTF ARE YOU DOING”

Larkey might be our main banana, but Darling is so much better in his smarts and forward craft

 

[speedy]

I actually don't mind Ray, but I watched that segment and while it was well explained, he missed the critical point - did an advantage actually exist in the first place?

Everything in the rule - demonstrating an intent to continue play - assumes that the team infringed against has some advantage, and that simply is not the case when the ball is in dispute.

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Razor is too literal with the rules and has no feel for the game. He even guaranteed that Larkey heard the whistle. What bullshit. Looked like none of those 3 players running for the ball heard it. Even Zurhaar said he didn’t know he got the free. Only Darling knew and he was 10m from the ump.

They simply don’t call advantage when the ball is still in dispute 20m down field and 2-3 seconds after the free. If it was only Larkey running onto the ball then fair enough.

Also, Larkey has said he didn’t hear the whistle. Can’t understand posters not giving him the benefit of the doubt, more keen to cite his selfishness or stupidity.

 

[Jonnoo]

Wise head JD was flapping his arms to stop very very early, virtually as soon as the free was called

 

[speedy]

Then he needs to clean his ears out. If you can hear the whistle with screaming fans in your ear, he can hear it on the football field. He absolutely heard the whistle

I love your relentlessness. Don’t let anything stop you from shitting on our players. Gun footballer and telepath, awesome.

 

[zoomba23]

Late to the party but I've never heard 16,000 people make such a loud racket. That was a ****ing emotional release of epic proportions.

#41 can take the mantle as the new worst in the business. Incompetent to the degree that corruption/conscious bias shouldn't be ruled out