Did Sydney cheat?

[dlanod]

He was running into an open goal about to kick the sealer when he hit the deck. Highly unlikely he was faking it.

Except for not having possession of the ball...

But I definitely agree that I don't think he was faking it. It honestly looked bad, and there shouldn't be any slight on Sinclair as part of any of this IMO.

 

[The Gong]

So Sinkers was a good trade then?

Couldn't have got the win without him!

He had a really great start to the season but he's pretty diabolical in the wet. Had two pretty ordinary games in a row on a greasy track. He's still worth it to have a mobile ruck combo who can go forward an drill a few goals for us.

 

[The Gong]

He was running into an open goal about to kick the sealer when he hit the deck. Highly unlikely he was faking it.

That's not when he was injured though. He just muffed that up. It was a few seconds later when I take it he jarred his knee when going down after a shepherd.

 

[XU1-ROO]

Yep. Swans have been doing this sort of stuff since they got Dunkley to play in the 1996 GF.

 

[exile]

Except for not having possession of the ball...

But I definitely agree that I don't think he was faking it. It honestly looked bad, and there shouldn't be any slight on Sinclair as part of any of this IMO.

personally, i didn't think it looked too bad. couldn't really tell much from the replay, but he still seemed to have a fair amount of mobility with his knee, stretching it out a fair bit whilst he was on the ground. he was obviously in a lot of pain and i'm no doctor, but hearing that they called for the stretcher after seeing him moving it so much seemed a little odd...

 

[The Gong]

Yep. Swans have been doing this sort of stuff since they got Dunkley to play in the 1996 GF.

Fat lot of good that did us.

I don't think we're going back far enough. Could we have a few examples of our outrageous cheating from the late 1800s??

 

[jenny61_99]

I think all of us agree that it was the wrong decision by the umps. Some people are actually claiming that Sydney are somehow cheats because of an umpiring error, hence the defensiveness.

Leppa's reaction was poor though - if you're going to blow up at least do it in a controlled manner. Everyone knew it was a shepherd and a knee issue, so it was pretty silly saying the player was clumsy and fell over his own feet, then had cramp.

The question has to be asked why a stretcher was called for in the first place, and who made the call for it.

 

[jenny61_99]

Certainly looked like something was wrong. Can't blame the runner for being concerned when a player is clutching at his knee.

Very rarely see a stretcher brought on for a knee. Two trainers generally help him from the ground. Stretchers are generally only ever used for concussion/head or neck injuries.

 

[bungwahl]

The question has to be asked why a stretcher was called for in the first place, and who made the call for it.

I'd say the Swans would have called for it based on Sinclair lying on the ground clutching his knee. Any club would have made that move though - it looked for all money like a knee injury. It's still up to the umpires to decide when the game is stopped and they admitted their error today.

 

[jenny61_99]

I'd say the Swans would have called for it based on Sinclair lying on the ground clutching his knee. Any club would have made that move though - it looked for all money like a knee injury. It's still up to the umpires to decide when the game is stopped and they admitted their error today.

Like I said, rare for a stretcher to come on for a knee. Not unheard of, but rare.

 

[Rod Stroker]

So now it's said and done, what is the actual injury to Sinclair? Busted knee ligament requiring surgery? Cramp? something else?

 

[bungwahl]

Like I said, rare for a stretcher to come on for a knee. Not unheard of, but rare.

Perhaps being 200cm tall they couldn't find two runners tall enough to support him off the ground? Either way it's not really the issue.

 

[The Gong]

The question has to be asked why a stretcher was called for in the first place, and who made the call for it.

Time for a Royal Commision in my opinion. It's the only way to get to the bottom of this travesty.

Look I would say that the Swans medical staff called for a stretcher because in the initial stages it looked like something akin to an ACL. When I first saw him on the ground I thought he was done for the season and was mentally reviewing our backup ruck stocks. In retrospect I would say he's had some hard impact to the knee that was pretty painful but not structural damage. I would imagine that the coaching staff leave the medicos to do their job and it would be their call.

 

[bungwahl]

So now it's said and done, what is the actual injury to Sinclair? Busted knee ligament requiring surgery? Cramp? something else?

I guess we'll find out tomorrow when the injury updates come out.

 

[Rusty Brookes]

Yes they did.

I saw them paint a tunnel on a wall but it backfired when the Brisbane players ran through the tunnel. When the Sydney players tried to run through the tunnel it had turned back to a wall.

There was much snickering and handing out of medals.

 

[replicant]

Like I said, rare for a stretcher to come on for a knee. Not unheard of, but rare.

It's not done because if you use one, the player can't come back on for 20 minutes. So it's not about player welfare, it's about hoping the player can get back on the field.

Since there was 3 minutes to go, they probably decided he was unlikely to be coming back anyway, so better safe than sorry.

 

[The Gong]

Yes they did.

I saw them paint a tunnel on a wall but it backfired when the Brisbane players ran through the tunnel. When the Sydney players tried to run through the tunnel it had turned back to a wall.

There was much snickering and handing out of medals.

You forgot twirling of moustaches.

 

[jenny61_99]

Perhaps being 200cm tall they couldn't find two runners tall enough to support him off the ground? Either way it's not really the issue.

Maybe. Maybe not. It's clear though, that the stretcher could be used by teams in dying stages of close matches. AFL need to clear it up because sure as eggs, teams will use it.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Part of the Swans culture. Like all the lies they told about removing COLA.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Yeah, no doubt.

 

[pacman]

A guy goes down clutching his knee, commentators suggest it looks like he's done an ACL. You're marginally in front and down a man - I'd think 18 clubs in the competition would be keen to get him off ASAP so that they're not a man down.

So these commentators are now injury experts.
Doesn't happen in local footy or the AFL and nor should it.

 

[jenny61_99]

It's not done because if you use one, the player can't come back on for 20 minutes. So it's not about player welfare, it's about hoping the player can get back on the field.

Since there was 3 minutes to go, they probably decided he was unlikely to be coming back anyway, so better safe than sorry.

Yep, you could be right, but I don't buy it. The cynic in me sees a loophole in the rules, and knows there are teams out there that will use it to their advantage.

 

[pacman]

Luckily he isn't injured but I would rather be safe than sorry and that goes for every player in the Afl

So a cramp is now safe or sorry?

 

[pacman]

I doubt we would rate a mention at all without stretchergate to be honest.

And I doubt whether the runner would have called for the stretcher if you were 5 goals in front.

 

[blue harvest]

Perhaps being 200cm tall they couldn't find two runners tall enough to support him off the ground? Either way it's not really the issue.

Yes it is.
The whole thread is about whether they called for the stretcher in order to stop play.
You keep going on about it is the umpires who decide to stop play, but the umpires are forced to stop play when a stretcher comes on, they just get to decide at exactly what point they stop it.