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Was expecting a bit more saj tbh.
Gonna have to ramp up exercising maybe
Just can't seem to get the waste smaller
Look I'm not overweight or anything and people laugh when I say I wanna lose the guts, but im just sick of the pot belly
I'm eating well
Last two weeks I've had fish and veggies, cooked some stir fry with beef eye fillet sliced up in it, had porridge and home made soups, nuts etc
Oh and eggs and milk, would eat a dozen eggs in 7 days and about 7 litres of milk...prob why I've got a guts huh


Will troll the net and gather some exercising stuffs and get on to that
On a brighter note I think the minister of finance said I can order my power cage package deal this week or next....I've just gotta make sure I heard properly lol
As i said slow and steady wins the race, 0.5kg a week is good progress you just need to stick at it longer than 2 weeks and results will come. The body will strip fat from non essential areas like arms, chest etc, the fat around the belly and lower back is always the last to go. No particular exercise or food will magically reduce belly fat, but consistent diet and training will.
 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ar-is-not-so-bad/story-e6frg8y6-1226090126776

Along with University of Sydney nutritionist Jennie Brand-Miller, Shrapnel takes the highly contentious position that sugar isn't a dietary evil, as dangerous to human health as saturated and trans fats, salt and alcohol.

As Shrapnel says, "Low sugar is not necessarily good and high sugar is not necessarily bad because sugar isn't the main game." Brand-Miller adds that "highlighting sugar only distracts people from the more important issues" such as high levels of consumption of recommendation No 3's fats, salt and alcohol.
What a disgusting, dangerous, greedy little snake.
 

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Update on low cal experiment

Despite some very low calories in the last 48 hours I absolutely trained the house down this morning and feel absolutely amazing at work right now, my run yesterday morning was garbage but steady state cardio can wait until I up my carb intake a bit. Weight loss has plateaued a little but that's probably due to my hedonistic weekend so not worried.

Here's my last 3 days of training and food diary

Training:

20th September Light Weight/High Rep Pecs and Biceps Workout 86.6kg

Barbell Bench Press 75kg 8 70kg 8,7
Barbell Bicep Curl 30kg 10,8,7
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press 26kg each 8,7,6
Hammer Curls 16kg each 9,7,6
Dumbbell Pec Fly 12kg each 10,9,7

Nutrition:

Pre-Workout

Beta Alanine 3.5g
AAKG 3.5g

C-----C-----F-----P
23----0-----0-----6


Breakfast

Bullet Proof Coffee and 3 Fish Oil Caps

C-----C-----F-----P
279----0----32----0

Lunch

Lamb Stew with 50g of potato :eek: and broccoli

C-----C-----F-----P
375--15----13----45




Dinner

Burger Pizza, 160g mince, 30g cheddar, 35g chorizo

C-----C-----F-----P
658---6----49----47


Total

C-----C-----F-----P
1335-21----93----98
Training:

21st September 3.42km Jog 86.6kg

Total time: 23:22
Burnt 341 calories
Pace 6:50 p/km

Rubbish run, I think I'm going to swap out my steady state cardio for more HIIT. High intensity steady state cardio and low carb dieting just doesn't agree with me, I'm not bothered though, at the moment it's all about trying to lose body fat not trying to run PBs.

Nutrition:

Morning fasted cardio and then a 24 hour fast (BP coffee doesn't count)

Lunch

Bullet Proof Coffee and 3 Fish Oil Caps

C-----C-----F-----P
279----0----31----0

Dinner

Thai Red Chicken Curry with Asian Veg

C-----C-----F-----P
391--11----21----38


Dessert

40g 90% dark choc and 35g peanut butter

C-----C-----F-----P
465--15----41----14


Total

C-----C-----F-----P
1135-26----93----52
22nd September Heavy Weight/Low Rep Back and Triceps Workout 86.6kg

Wide Grip Weighted Pullups +10kg 6,5,4
Weighted Narrow Grip Tricep Dips +10kg 7,6,5
Barbell Rows 85kg 5,4,3
Mixed Grip Barbell Shrug 100kg 10,10,10
EZ Bar Skull Crushers 32.5kg 5,3 27.5kg 7

Great workout, felt awesome. Love my heavy back sessions with weighted pull ups :)

2 scoops of pre workout and a BP coffee post workout

Going to be having left over curry for lunch and a omlette with bacon for dinner, aiming for 1500 cals
 

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Nutritionists / dietitians love to debate useless semantics. *Technically* the guy is right, sugar isn't inherently bad. Unless you over eat it. Which is extremely easy to do. Which most people do. It's also quite pointless in this day and age where people eat too much in general anyway. Have your two fruits a day and that's all the sugar you "need".

99% of average Joes and Janes will benefit from limiting high sugar foods and cutting out added sugar. But nah let's debate semantics.
 

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99% of average Joes and Janes will benefit from limiting high sugar foods and cutting out added sugar. But nah let's debate semantics.
Most people drink their sugar allowance in a day before we even consider what they're eating.

Reducing out refined sugars and processed crap improves 99% of diets in this country before any fancy marketing or "celebrity craze"
 

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I started watching the sugar conspiracy on sbs on demand this morn
I knew sugar .as crap but fmd its worse than I thought.
ive massively chwnged my diet in the last month or so. A slight tweak will see this refined white crap out of my intake as much as possible.
 

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God damn there's so much conflicting information about insulin's role in the anabolic/hypertrophy response.

Berkhan/Keto and Fasting enthusiasts all say you don't want to have insulin too high for too long because it blunts growth hormones which is not ideal for hypertrophy/anabolism

Many many others say you want to spike insulin through the roof 3 times a day to improve protein synthesis and muscle repair growth. They even advocate the complete removal of fats from your first 3 meals of the day in order to keep insulin as high as possible (whilst also promoting a further 3 meals of low carb high fat later in the day, this is when you're body gets a break from the insulin as to not become insulin resistant). These same people also maintain that you're doing yourself an immense disservice if you do not spike insulin within an hour or 2 of resistance training as your body's most primed for protein synthesis in this window.

The way I figure it I've successfully harnessed the power of low insulin to improve fat burning (lipolysis) so it's equally plausable that high insulin could be responsible for improved hypertrophy results.

Once I get down to about 83kgs (currently 86kg) I'm looking forward to experimenting with a high carb, high protein post workout meal but keeping LCHF otherwise. See if it makes a difference.

Going to buy some fat calipers and measuring tape to really get scientific on this :)
 

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Just did the CSIRO "Healthy" eating survey. Scored 59/100. Told me to eat more grains and wheat products for fibre, which was no surprise given their agenda. Also to eat more fruit and "healthy fats" such as canola oil and margarine rather than butter and coconut oil.

No wonder there are so many issues like diabetes, obesity and alzheimers in Australia.
 

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Just did the CSIRO "Healthy" eating survey. Scored 59/100. Told me to eat more grains and wheat products for fibre, which was no surprise given their agenda. Also to eat more fruit and "healthy fats" such as canola oil and margarine rather than butter and coconut oil.

No wonder there are so many issues like diabetes, obesity and alzheimers in Australia.
It's just appalling.
 

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I've completely changed mine around
Chips biscuits ice cream have gone
90% of tinned stuff has gone like any soup or spreads

The worst thing I would eat is a bit of butter and condiments like jalapeño sauce on sandwiches and fish

Feeling better I know that
Cut all that sugar out
 

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Just did the CSIRO "Healthy" eating survey. Scored 59/100. Told me to eat more grains and wheat products for fibre, which was no surprise given their agenda. Also to eat more fruit and "healthy fats" such as canola oil and margarine rather than butter and coconut oil.
I hope anyone doing resistance training ignores the canola advice - it's inflammatory.
Margarine is the work of the devil.
 

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Gee that CSIRO Survey must score grains extremely highly! I got 60/100 and I don't eat fruits, only 3 serve of veg, no dairy (very lactose intolerant), no red meat / fatty fish (saving money for an European holiday).

I know my diet could use a lot of work. But it's ok guys, I have 10 serves of grains everyday so my score is better than average.
 

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CSIRO Survey scored 45. They screw it up almost straight off including Tomato's in as a salad vegetable. It's a fruit! So screw them, since it's the only fruit I eat I put it in under fruit. Would have scored even worse without that :) And if wasn't into LCHF would have scored worse again for the occasional treat. Talk about Carb centric! But hey, that emphasis on carbs over meat and fats since the 1960's has done wonders for the weight of the Western world :rolleyes:
 

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CSIRO Survey scored 45. They screw it up almost straight off including Tomato's in as a salad vegetable. It's a fruit! So screw them, since it's the only fruit I eat I put it in under fruit. Would have scored even worse without that :) And if wasn't into LCHF would have scored worse again for the occasional treat. Talk about Carb centric! But hey, that emphasis on carbs over meat and fats since the 1960's has done wonders for the weight of the Western world :rolleyes:
Only tomatoes..wow.. Hey, if it works, it works. A lot of diets work... A diet on refined/processed anything (protein, fat, carbs) won't treat anyone well though.
 

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55 for me.

apparently i need to eat more fruit, grains and polyunsaturated oils and spreads. and not just fresh fruit, canned and dried fruit too.

why does the CSIRO want me to have metabolic syndrome?
 

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Just did the CSIRO "Healthy" eating survey. Scored 59/100. Told me to eat more grains and wheat products for fibre, which was no surprise given their agenda. Also to eat more fruit and "healthy fats" such as canola oil and margarine rather than butter and coconut oil.

No wonder there are so many issues like diabetes, obesity and alzheimers in Australia.
Corrupt as fk... Just like any diet that recommends 'excess' animal protein.

I'm not here to tell anyone how to eat, but I'm not here to be bullied by idiots either.

Just want more awareness for people about the fked up treatment of amazing/harmless animals, that cop a very rough deal.
 

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55 for me.

apparently i need to eat more fruit, grains and polyunsaturated oils and spreads. and not just fresh fruit, canned and dried fruit too.

why does the CSIRO want me to have metabolic syndrome?
Absolutely nothing wrong with meals of fruit, and just one type of fruit ( mono meal) for good health, it's nature's amazing detoxer, and dried fruit is great too, but minus the sulphur for me.
 
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