Expansion ? Does 18clubs x22rounds=20clubsx20rounds

[speedpeck23]

Do the sums, add up the cash and you can see that the AFL really is only a drop punt away from from feasibly including Tassie and NT into the AFL.

Currently there are 10 AFL matches played in venues where there is no true home team. Hawthorn 4 and North 3 matches in Tassie. Melbourne 2 matches in NT. GC 1 in Cairns.

All these matches would be guaranteed a bigger attendance if the home team played at their true home.

Correspondingly if a true home team participated in those 10 AFL games the parochialism of locals supporting their own team would maximise attendance and create bigger media interest in those matches than currently exists.

Effectively you are eliminating 10 "relocated " matches and adding up to 20 true home and away matches complete with parochial home supporters. The 10 relocated matches are then played in front of a home crowd validating them as true home and away games.

18 clubs produces 198 game AFL season, 20 clubs (accommodating 2 local derby's or rivalry matches per club) produces a 200 game AFL season. Finals .. 9 games for the 198 game season, suggest 11 for the 200 game season.

So the AFL put on a valid 211 game season instead of a compromised 207 game season. IMO 2 extra finals and 30,000 parochial fans from Tassie and NT should cover the cost.

 

[Snookers]

Imagine doing a full preseason in Darwin.

Yuk.

 

[parano1a]

Canberra would be a more viable option than the NT. If the Giants are able to grow their supporter base sufficiently in Western Sydney, Canberra should get its own team around 2030. They could also play 1 game in Wagga or Albury to expand the supporter base across the Riverina.

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

Imagine doing a full preseason in Darwin.

Yuk.

Not even that. The local comp is played in the wet season, so it's possible for locals acclimatised. Teams travelling from the Southern winter into 35° inthe dry season would suffer big time. If the Demons do it for one game it's pretty even. A home side would have a massive home advantage.Not sure how they would go away. Top end residents are generally very wussy when it comes to cold. Whether it affects professional athletes performance I'm not sure.

 

[Madness101]

number 1 draft pick who grew up in Melbourne is off to play for the Darwin Wombats. Will he be a 300 game superstar for them or will he request a trade home ？ who knows

 

[Snookers]

number 1 draft pick who grew up in Melbourne is off to play for the Darwin Wombats. Will he be a 300 game superstar for them or will he request a trade home ？ who knows

Darwin Dingoes much better.

They can have the Chamberlain Hill at the ground...

 

[The Swert]

20 clubs and 20 rounds?

My team plays 19 other opponents and then who? One club a second time?

Surely 20 clubs would need 19 rounds to play each other.

 

[halalsnackpack]

number 1 draft pick who grew up in Melbourne is off to play for the Darwin Wombats. Will he be a 300 game superstar for them or will he request a trade home ？ who knows

AFL players are pussies. Imagine a kid from NY or LA being drafted to the Packers playing in Green Bay a place with 100k people in bum* nowhere and whinging about it.

 

[NoobPie]

Imagine doing a full preseason in Darwin.

Yuk.

I'm very skeptical of a Darwin team

If you did go to such a 20 team 20 game season, one advantage would be you could play still play the season over 23 rounds and potentially increase the value of the rights content by being able to play a game every Thursday night throughout the season. If you were to do this it would make sense to do this ahead of a new TV rights deal

I'm pretty sure though a lot of contracts (particularly stadium use) revolve around 22 game seasons so it would involve some contract renegotiation.

 

[Pessimistic]

AFL expansion = AFLX

Haven’t we worked that out? It’s a much cheaper way to expand

 

[wedgetail]

Darwin? There is one solitary federal seat for the whole NT... that is about 200k people. If *every* one of them jumped on board the AFL club they would still struggle with less supporters than the tiniest minnow clubs. Not a good recipie

 

[JackOutback]

The season is still compromised because of the travel factor and concentration of clubs in one location.

 

[Superstar swan]

Not enough talent to fill 20 afl teams

 

[Dadda Dave]

20 clubs and 20 rounds?

My team plays 19 other opponents and then who? One club a second time?

Surely 20 clubs would need 19 rounds to play each other.

Intra club!!!

 

[doppleganger]

The season is still compromised because of the travel factor and concentration of clubs in one location.

You mean how the EPL is compromised because there is a concentration of clubs in London and a Northern team like Newcastle travels further.

Or how American professional teams are concentrated in the North east, and the West Coast teams all face much more onerous travel schedules.

Geography is a bitch.

 

[Blue1980]

You mean how the EPL is compromised because there is a concentration of clubs in London and a Northern team like Newcastle travels further.

Or how American professional teams are concentrated in the North east, and the West Coast teams all face much more onerous travel schedules.

Geography is a bitch.

The American example is better because of the longer travel.

In the UK Newcastle to London would be like going from Melbourne to Mildura

 

[Andre]

Do the sums, add up the cash and you can see that the AFL really is only a drop punt away from from feasibly including Tassie and NT into the AFL.

Currently there are 10 AFL matches played in venues where there is no true home team. Hawthorn 4 and North 3 matches in Tassie. Melbourne 2 matches in NT. GC 1 in Cairns.

All these matches would be guaranteed a bigger attendance if the home team played at their true home.

Correspondingly if a true home team participated in those 10 AFL games the parochialism of locals supporting their own team would maximise attendance and create bigger media interest in those matches than currently exists.

Effectively you are eliminating 10 "relocated " matches and adding up to 20 true home and away matches complete with parochial home supporters. The 10 relocated matches are then played in front of a home crowd validating them as true home and away games.

18 clubs produces 198 game AFL season, 20 clubs (accommodating 2 local derby's or rivalry matches per club) produces a 200 game AFL season. Finals .. 9 games for the 198 game season, suggest 11 for the 200 game season.

So the AFL put on a valid 211 game season instead of a compromised 207 game season. IMO 2 extra finals and 30,000 parochial fans from Tassie and NT should cover the cost.

Including rivalry rounds compromises it. Even if you went to 19 games, so every team plays the others once, a given years difficulty is going to depend on whether you get the hard teams home or away.

A 16 team competition with 30 rounds, so every team gets to play the others home and away is the only way for an uncompromised draw. Two less Victorian sides, start the season a month earlier, no byes or week off before finals. Increase the list size by 5 (there's 80 players from 2 teams gone to share around) and make it so every player can play a maximum of 26 home and away games, no more than 15 in a row. Players aren't run into the ground then.

 

[LordLucifer]

Create 4 new clubs & relocate 3 clubs out of Melbourne, base them in new areas like Canberra, Northern Sydney, Hobart, Illawarra, Auckland or Wellington, Newcastle & Sunshine Coast.

Clubs play a 21-week season meaning that you play everyone once. You can bet the AFL would want to implement a Final-10 which would require an extra week in the finals series.

 

[parano1a]

20 clubs and 20 rounds?
My team plays 19 other opponents and then who? One club a second time?

The extra game would allow a 2nd Local derby for the non-Vic teams.
For the Victorian teams it would be a big local rival, e.g. Hawthorn v Geelong, Collingwood v Essendon, Richmond v Carlton

 

[parano1a]

Create 4 new clubs & relocate 3 clubs out of Melbourne, base them in new areas like Canberra, Northern Sydney, Hobart, Illawarra, Auckland or Wellington, Newcastle & Sunshine Coast.

Hobart and Canberra are the only options that make sense out of all you have listed. Basing teams in regional areas in RL territory or New Zealand will cost 20x more to work than the Suns/Giants expansion.

 

[BF Tiger]

Please no more expansion. The talent isn't available.

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

With the population griwth in WA, an extra WA team will enter in the next expansion, hopefully withTassie.

 

[HairyO]

16 x 30 or 14 x 26 is the only fair way to do it.

But the AFL despises fair.

 

[00Stinger]

20 clubs and 20 rounds?

My team plays 19 other opponents and then who? One club a second time?

Surely 20 clubs would need 19 rounds to play each other.

he said 2 local derbys a year. So thats the extra game

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[blitzer]

20 clubs x 20 rounds isn't actually the worst idea i've read on the topic. But I loathe the idea of more expansion teams coming in right now. To me we still haven't bedded down the 2 newest expansion teams. Well Giants are set and will continue to grow as the Swans have before them but Gold Coast still has their work cut out for them.