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Heres what GOALden Hawk said about our picks. I'm suprised to say the least. Four Victorians!

It appears that we didn't get an in and under midfielder. Dunn was a highly sort after player but not a true midfielder. Murphy ahead of Chaplin? Mundy and Campbell over a midfielder (could have been a local one too). All Talls with one flanker. Do we need talls?

Given that I have gotten a major headache reading all the info before the draft it sounds like all the experts in the media and on BigFooty got it really quite wrong.

Comments?

Ryley Dunn

Details:
Club: Shepparton Bears
DOB: 7 Oct 85 Hgt: 182cm Wgt: 81kg
Position: Flanker
Natural foot: Right

Honours:
Victoria Country 2002, 2003
All Australian 2002, 2003
Half Back Flank in TAC Team of the Year
Mike Fitzpatrick/AFLPA Scholarship 2002
National Draft Camp Invitee 2002, 2003

TAC Stats:
2002: 15 games, 2 goals, 12.8 PPG.
2003: 18 games, 9 goals, 23.1 PPG.

Profile:
Dunn was touted as a top 10 prospect at the beginning of the season, and I'd say that's where he will go. There is a lot to like about this kid. His credentials are excellent, twice All Australian, in the team of the year and a great leader as well (was co-captain of Murray and Vic Country).

Dunn's versatility is very appealing. Over the past two years he has held Aaron Edwards (last year's leading goalkicker in the TAC) goalless in defence, tagged Daniel Wells, played off half-back, and played as a forward as well. He is reasonably quick so I suspect he will end up playing on a flank or wing at AFL level. But the ability to either play a close checking defender or a forward is pretty impressive.

The other thing to like about Ryley is his attack on the footy/man. He is TOUGH. He thrives on the physical stuff, the bumps, the push and shove, the throwing the body in recklessly to help the side. It's great to watch.

I would say his main asset is overhead - his marking ability is great for someone who is not particularly tall. His disposal is good, particularly by foot. Has a real classical kicking action that works nicely for set shots. He is an excellent decision maker and will cover a lot of ground throughout the game.

Hands are also very clean, I remember in a shocking day at Box Hill his ability to handle the ball made him stand out. He is also described as super competitive and a born leader. Had a very consistent year in the TAC, racking up a lot of touches as well as marks and tackles.

I don't really have too many queries about this bloke. It was only when I went back on my notes I realised just how good he'd been in all the games I'd seen. Somewhere between 5-10.


Ryan Murphy

Details:
Club: Traralgon
DOB: 24 May 85 Hgt: 192cm Wgt: 80kg
Position: Centre Half Forward/Centre Half Back
Natural foot: Right

Honours:
Victoria Country 2003
National Draft Camp Invitee 2003

TAC Stats:
2002: 13 games, 25 goals, 7.4 PPG.
2003: 15 games, 10 goals, 16.2 PPG.

Profile:
Of all the players from Gippsland, I think Murphy probably has the best opportunity of being picked up come National Draft day.

Murphy was spoken to by West Coast and Port Adelaide last year but I'd say a lot more clubs would have spoken to him this year at draft camp after a good year in a poor side. Ryan is basically a key position player who can play well at full forward or centre half back. But the impressive thing about him is his endurance - he was in the top dozen for both the 3km run and the shuttle run at draft camp, and is so athletic he actually played some games on the wing for the Power.

Took 96 marks for the year in the TAC, averaging 6.4 a game. He spent most of last year at full forward, establishing himself late in the year with two bags of 5 and a 7 goal haul. This year he was moved further up the ground, which probably showed off his athleticism better.

Murphy is very good on the lead and is simply a beautiful kick. His kicking for goal in a thing of beauty - 25.8 last year illustrates this. He prefers to dispose by foot when possible. He is capable of finding a lot of footy for a big man and has good hands.

He was given a job on Fergus Watts at the carnival and struggled for most of the match. However to his credit he stood up in the final quarter when required and took several telling marks. My only query is his physicality, not really a man on man player and I can’t recall him taking many contested marks. Worth a pick in the middle of the draft.

David Mundy

Details:
Club: Seymour
DOB: 20 Jul 85 Hgt: 190cm Wgt: 83kg
Position: Full Back
Natural foot: Right

Honours:
Victoria Country 2003
National Draft Camp 2003

TAC Stats:
2002: 13 games, 3 goals, 13.5 PPG.
2003: 17 games, 6 goals, 16.8 PPG.

Profile:
David Mundy has really come on this year to be one of the best full backs in the TAC. He has several assets that mean he is sure to be looked at early in the draft.

Mundy is very athletic, and beat nearly every opponent I saw him play on this year. He is extremely agile and will back his judgement to beat his opponent to the ball. One of the best games I saw him play was on Luke Herrington in the carnival. Mundy played in front and backed himself, taking a lot of marks and the points.

He is an extremely long and accurate kick, he always took the kickouts for Murray. He nearly always went long, and his short passes are nowhere near as classy.

Mundy is disciplined, does a lot of team acts that don't get credit such as spoiling and smothering. Hands are pretty clean, will provide rebound as well as closing man down.

I thought he played well in every game I saw him in, and would happily use a 2nd round pick on him, if not slightly earlier. Should make it at AFL level.

Adam Campbell

Details:
Club: Hamilton
DOB: 25 Jan 85 Hgt: 192cm Wgt: 76kg
Position: Full forward
Natural foot: Left

Honours:
Victoria Country 2003
National Draft Camp Invitee 2003

TAC Stats:
2002: 17 games, 40 goals, 8.1 PPG.
2003: 15 games, 28 goals, 12.4 PPG.

Profile:
Campbell is a tall full forward whose main strength is marking on the lead and his set shot kicking. He was actually more proficient in front of goal last season, but he still had a fairly good year for North Ballarat and was selected for Vic Country.

Campbell has a beautiful upright kicking style and is usually a great kick for goal, although he tends to be a confidence player. If things aren't running his way he seems to drift right out of the game and his kicking can also suffer.

His speed off the mark is very good, catches quite a few defenders unaware. This is how he takes most of his marks, although he is capable of taking a contested grab as well. Pretty good at ground level for a big guy, nice pick up skills.

He is reasonably mobile and can lay a fearsome tackle when his mind is on the job. Presents really well and has poise. Kicked the winning goal against Murray in Round 2 from 45 metres out with a minute to go, was a wonderful kick under pressure.

I'm a bit worried he doesn't have much versatility, seems very much a full forward to me. Also he was fairly quiet at the carnival, and is fairly old for this age group. Given his size probably worth a late pick.
 
I had a feeling we would overlook some of the highly touted boys on BF like Surjan so I wasn't suprised his name wasn't called out.

Happy to get Dunn and Mundy, don't know much about the other boys. Suprised they are all talls but I trust our recruiting staff know what they are doing, and overall happy with our picks.
 

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I might have jumped the gun if we do use our 4 round pick (59). Would mean that we would not have a pre-season draft pick (I think?).
 
Gobsmacked that it's 4 Vics after all the talk about the "richness" of the draft of the WA boys.
As for picking talls - they must be pretty sure that the Schammster is going to further develop next year as the answer to our clearance "issues".
 
Originally posted by Kenny_01
I had a feeling we would overlook some of the highly touted boys on BF like Surjan so I wasn't suprised his name wasn't called out.

Happy to get Dunn and Mundy, don't know much about the other boys. Suprised they are all talls but I trust our recruiting staff know what they are doing, and overall happy with our picks.

With all of them being Vics if they are any good it will make retention an issue. We don't want another Leigh Brown (i.e. an average player who we had to pay way too much to keep him).

In the end no one really knows how any of these guys will go.
 
I'm sure our recruiting staff weighed all this up and picked the best player available. They've been awesome picking up talent over the last few years, and I expect that to continue.

I guess we can add Surjan or Burges onto the rookie list if they are available.
 
Although I am extremely happy that we selected Dunn at 10 (well done Kenny) and Mundy at 19, I'm still questioning our decision to select zero local boys with our first four picks. Dunn and Mundy played footy together at Murray, which would make it easier for them moving interstate, however retention will become a major issue in two or three years time.

Who would have thought Jacob Surjan, Michael Johnson, Brett Jones, Matthew Priddis, Paul Richardson, Paul Duffield and Callum Burges would all be overlooked and eligible to be rookie listed?
 
Personally I'm quite disappointed with Fremantle's lack of respect for the local lads, really quite dumbfounded as to why Surjan isn't on a senior list right now.

Add to that the hype of Burges and Duffield ro Teague
 
Originally posted by dasler
Personally I'm quite disappointed with Fremantle's lack of respect for the local lads, really quite dumbfounded as to why Surjan isn't on a senior list right now.

Add to that the hype of Burges and Duffield ro Teague

Just hoping West Coast go for Burges in the rookie draft meaning we can get Surjan and maybe Duffield and Johnson.
 
Chris Connolly was just on the AFL net broadcast.

Connolly said that all 4 players are Vic Country and being country boys they all know they are going to move to the city and leave some time or another so coming to Perth shouldn't be a big deal. Not really sure about that Chris.

He also said that they put roughly 10% onto the contracts of Victorians to keep them.

Connolly also said that the players Freo got were all ranked in Freos top 12. Ryan Murphy was ranked by Freo as the second best tall in the draft (behind Bradley). So that means they ranked Murphy better than Watts and Chaplin.

Interesting to see how it all pans out.
 
Dunn was just on fox footy. Looks like he will fit right in.

Likes to go in hard, fan of Michael Voss. Called a 'hard in and under player' by Matthew Campbell.

Looks the goods.
 

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Originally posted by funky_monk
Just hoping West Coast go for Burges in the rookie draft meaning we can get Surjan and maybe Duffield and Johnson.

I think Burges is still too young to be rookie listed.

Surely you guys would pick Surjan after his performances in the draft tests and we would like to pick up Johnson, given his position and our needs.
 
Getting four Victorians in the one draft should help with retention if anything.
 
Why didn't we pick up moody? Did he drop off that much from last year?

I though for sure that he'd be selected with our second round pick.
 

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Originally posted by Kapow!!!
What happened to that Surjan bloke, He didn't get picked up.
I have no idea kapow, I had it on good authority he was going to 1 of 3 clubs as a definite.

Those 3 were in the mix and not one took him. As a neutral supporter of South Fremantle even I feel angry for the Surjan Family as he deserves to be on an AFL list.

Couple that with young Paul Duffield Lukas Teague and I'm not a happy supporter...especially with that crap box Spaanderman going at pick 18.
 
Haven't seen Dunn first hand, but he sounds exactly like the sort of player you need. I reckon he's the sort of bloke that Woosh would've loved to coach.

Schammer and Dunn in consecutive years should really strengthen your midfield to complement the great bunch of KPP you have.

But both those blokes came at the expense of two talls (Anvil and Croad) which probably explains why you also took Murphy and Mundy as well this year.
 
I'm pretty happy with how the draft went. Dunn looks like he'll be an awesome player in the future. I thought that we would pick up more local talent, but I've got faith in Smart an CC. Hopefully we'll be able to pick up surjan, duffield and a few others in the rookie draft.
 
This is how I would analyse our drafting, being as objective as possible:

Pick 10 - Ryley Dunn (Murray):

Extremely happy with this selection. After watching Ryley play for Vic Country in the last two U/18 carnivals, you could tell he was a standout and would be a player to feature prominently in this draft. As has already been mentioned, he is extremely tough, physical, is generally very skilful by foot, has good hands in close and is extremely strong overhead. Another thing to notice about Ryley is his tremendous courage in the air and at ground level. In the U/18 Championships, he would often back into the oncoming pack and take the mark, as if he was oblivious to the oncoming traffic.

He is also extremely versatile, having been used on a half back flank, in the forward line and in the midfield over the past two years. The only query is where he might play at AFL level, hopefully Connolly will develop him into a midfielder as he is just what we need. Expect senior action from him next year and expect fans to be forgetting the loss of Croad very quickly.


Pick 12 - Ryan Murphy (Gippsland):

Haven't seen too much of him, so I'm not really in a position to comment. I can understand Smart wanting to take a key position player with this pick, and I'm glad he didn't take Watts, who was touted as a top 15 pick based on his pack marking ability alone, and was probably slightly overrated due to his performance in the carnival. It's also probably a good thing that we didn't take Bill Morrison this early, due to the risk associated with him after missing the entire year with a shoulder injury. Chaplin is the other key position player touted to go in the first round, and I must admit, he did look a likely type playing for Vic Country in the carnival. I guess we'll find out soon whether or not we made the right decision, but for now, I'll have faith in Smart and co's decision.

One thing about Murphy is the fact that he is 192cm but only 80kg, and, according to Connolly, is still growing, meaning he most likely still has a fair bit of development left in him. He also finished in the top 10% for the 5 metre sprint, 3km time trial and shuttle run at the draft camp, meaning he must be quick off the mark, have good endurance and be fairly athletic. It must be of some concern that he apparently doesn't take many contested marks in a man-on-man situation, but he is still growing and is only 18. I guess time will tell whether he was really worth pick 12, or whether he should have gone later as has been suggested.


Pick 19 - David Mundy (Murray)

Most of us would have expected Moody to be taken with this pick, but to be honest, I'm fairly happy with Mundy, who at one stage was touted as a top ten pick.

I saw Mundy in the carnival, and he seemed like a very quick, agile second defender, capable of playing on a tall or small. His style is similar to Woods rather than Parker, in that he uses his athleticism to back himself to the ball rather than preventing his opponent from winning it.

It's hard to say whether we should have taken Moody with this pick, or whether we made the right decision by selecting Mundy. Once again, only time will tell.


Pick 27 - Adam Campbell (North Ballarat):

Like Murphy, I can't say I know too much about Campbell. As has already been mentioned, he was a full forward at junior level who is apparently quick off the mark, making him dangerous on the lead. He is also apparently a nice set shot for goal and capable of taking a contested mark. He is only 76kg, so will require a few years in the gym, and will be an interesting one to watch next year. The only other player still available who I would have selected at this stage would be Schmidt or Surjan, but it seems we are likely to be able to draft him as a rookie anyway, so it may not matter so much.


Overall, I'm fairly happy with the players we drafted, although I'm disappointed at our reluctance to draft locals based on our poor history of retaining interstate players. Of all the players drafted, I'm only really expecting Dunn to have an impact in the seniors next season. The rest may require one - three years of developing their footy in the WAFL seniors and bulking up.
 
Originally posted by Kenny_01
I think that's a myth. How many top quality Victorian players have we lost?


I agree. Only Black and White (kinda fits really!) have actually asked to go. Others such as Brown (a bit of a theme happening here...) and McPhee were traded.

Also - it's much easier to stay at a club that is on the up with a successful future, than the Freo of 2001. Homesickness would play a much bigger part if you were forced to head to the other side of the country, then play in a team that gets flogged every week.

Fortunately that is no longer the issue at Fremantle!!:D
 

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