List Mgmt. Draft Watch 2015

[Rory Walkerfield]

One would presume that we would have thoroughly grilled Liptak on this matter.

Liptak is subject to his hippopotamus oath.

 

[Bicks]

Dude, someone asked who Francis supported and he answered the question. Stop acting like a Port BF poster.

The AFC supporter that said they weren't sure who Francis barracked for would have just about have to be the only person on the AFC board that wasn't aware he barracked for the Bombers because it has been highlighted on this board numerous times.

How many players do you reckon actually get to play for the side they barracked for as a kid??....Irrelevant, especially for a SA youngster drafted to SA team....

Didn't Gunston barrack for Essendon but decide he wanted to play for the Hawks??

 

[earlsta]

I'd say a week prior to the draft, Adelaide will know who they're getting at 9 & 13, 100%.
The recruiting teams from all clubs are all good mates, hopefully we'll get the leak before hand.

Remember Rendell's ' We'll have a laugh about it later ' after the draft comment?

 

[Bicks]

Liptak is subject to his hippopotamus oath.

Not if the AFL teams get the OK from Burton or his manager to do so, reluctance to do so on their part would make recruiters very, very wary.

Doubt any team would recruit him without that taking place given the circumstances.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Ok, so what I said was based on my personal feeling from the footage I've seen so I decided to quickly have a look at what else has been said about him.

Knightmare seems to confirm what I saw:





AFL draft central rated his kicking as poor and says:






None of this did anything to dispel my impression that he might develop into a Jenkins type eventually.

That isn't necessarily bad in and of itself, but not worth a first rounder that might pay off in 5 years when Walker, Sloane and co will be nearing retirement. This draft we should be aiming for classy ball users who can contribute to our upcoming campaigns IMO. Wouldn't mind Carlton taking him at all if it means Francis comes our way

Remember he is almost a year younger and add to that wasn't even on the radar 12 months ago

His improvement curve is massive , he's already rebuilt his kicking routine for goal with success and he's versatile ie can get up the ground and join in as well as just as proficient with ground ball as in the air

He will actually monster defenders aerially when he matures physically . I've seen him launch and take a hanger floating over a pack multiple
players

He won't peak until his mid 20s but I think he will be better than Jenkins by the time his 21

My only worry for him is if he ends up at Carlton

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I don't like H McKay at pick 9 either personally. If you're 200cm, you need to be able to provide a chopout in the ruck and / or take contested marks if you're a full time forward - not necessarily both of these things, but certainly one of them is required. McKay has shown no signs that he'll ever be able to do either of these things at an adequate level - the ruck work against 17 year olds has been nothing short of terrible, and if someone can locate footage of him taking a genuine contested mark, please let me know, because I've watched 3 or 4 full games of his and haven't seen one. Now don't get me wrong, he has attributes that should see him become a regular member of an AFL 22 - very quick and good below the knees for his height and good on the lead - but he just seems like more of a pick 18 than a pick 9 to me.

My order of preference for our two selections is as follows:

A Francis
C Curnow
C Oliver
W Milera
D Tucker
R Burton
R Mathieson
M Hibberd
K Collins
H McKay

If any of the top 3 on this list are available at 9, I'm pulling the trigger with one hand and pulling myself with the other. If we pass on any of those 3 for McKay, I will put my neck out and say we will look back on the decision with a fair amount of regret.

I'm not even remotely interested in Balic or Ah Chee - Balic isn't quick enough and doesn't win enough contested ball for me (we require one or both of these attributes) and Ah Chee is a small forward who I don't believe will ever develop into a mid, which we blatantly don't require with Betts, Cameron, Knight and Menzel all being acquired in the last couple of years. I didn't bother including Weideman or Parish (or the top 2, or any academy picks) because there is no chance of any of them being available to us.

Bottom line: if one of Francis, Curnow or Oliver falls to us, whoever we take at 13 is just gravy.

I've seen him take a contested mark floating across and over 5 man pack

He can seriously mark the ball don't worry about that

 

[Paladin]

I don't think we've drafted anyone that this forum has laser locked in on since I've been posting here anyway, with the exception of Matt Crouch, but the club telegraphed that one weeks out.

2007 it was Ebert, 2008 it was Johnston, 2009 I don't remember who it was (Tapscott maybe?) but it definitely wasn't Talia because he was gone to Carlton

Smith from memory was a favourite in his year.

 

[FR0GGY]

Is there any chance that a team with an academy player will not match and throw a spanner in the works?

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

I think we're all trying to make Francis available out of hope more than realism.

All writers seem have him going to either Essendon or Gold Coast, and no chance of being available any later.

Twomey, Quayle and Anderson have all suggested that Francis could slide to our first pick.

 

[hendo8888]

I don't think we've drafted anyone that this forum has laser locked in on since I've been posting here anyway, with the exception of Matt Crouch, but the club telegraphed that one weeks out.

2007 it was Ebert, 2008 it was Johnston, 2009 I don't remember who it was (Tapscott maybe?) but it definitely wasn't Talia because he was gone to Carlton

Lever was pretty well rumoured. It was a bit all over the shop last year, some had us with Laverde, some with with Marchbank, some with Cockatoo. Lever was the strongest rumour.
Davis was strongly rumoured. He firmed as the draft got closer. The original idea was Johnston, until the rumour started circling that we'd hidden Davis away.
Smith was linked to us, but it was a case of whether he would last to our pick. I think I remember Atley being one linked to us too?
Talia was to be gone by our pick. Jasper and Tapscott were the ones most linked to us, from memory. Talia was a major slider on draft day, that still makes no sense to me.
07 was definitely Ebert, or maybe Veszpremi. Dangerfield was a left field one.
Any further back, I didn't really take any interest, so no idea on Sellar/Douglas/Pfeiffer or previous.

 

[Mego Red]

All writers seem have him going to either Essendon or Gold Coast, and no chance of being available any later.

All writers? Really? Inside Football seems to disagree. Cal Twomey seems to feel we're VERY likely.

 

[Bicks]

Is there any chance that a team with an academy player will not match and throw a spanner in the works?

Hipwood with our first....I'd do that!!

 

[Methusellah]

Going on past history they will take the one most likely to be shit.

 

[dogs105]

Liptak is subject to his hippopotamus oath.

Do no harm?

 

[dogs105]

Lever was pretty well rumoured. It was a bit all over the shop last year, some had us with Laverde, some with with Marchbank, some with Cockatoo. Lever was the strongest rumour.
Davis was strongly rumoured. He firmed as the draft got closer. The original idea was Johnston, until the rumour started circling that we'd hidden Davis away.
Smith was linked to us, but it was a case of whether he would last to our pick. I think I remember Atley being one linked to us too?
Talia was to be gone by our pick. Jasper and Tapscott were the ones most linked to us, from memory. Talia was a major slider on draft day, that still makes no sense to me.
07 was definitely Ebert, or maybe Veszpremi. Dangerfield was a left field one.
Any further back, I didn't really take any interest, so no idea on Sellar/Douglas/Pfeiffer or previous.

Sellar was wished for, but unlikely - then slid.

Pfeiffer was tipped.

Previously we were strongly linked to Cam Wood, but Meesen slid.

 

[dogs105]

Any chance Carlton bid pick one, to make sydney pay? Sydney surely couldn't pass, or they'll have to just use those 3rd round picks they accumulated.

 

[Harry Groves 19]

where did you hear this?

How do you know that? That's pretty tough information to get ur hands on I would think

 

[FR0GGY]

Hipwood with our first....I'd do that!!

What's he worth?

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Any chance Carlton bid pick one, to make sydney pay? Sydney surely couldn't pass, or they'll have to just use those 3rd round picks they accumulated.

can't see carlton risking it

 

[Brentmeister]

Good on Emma Quayle for releasing a pretty accurate phantom draft year after year but it's always released the day before the draft, or sometimes the morning of. What's the point of that? By that point people are willing to hold their breath for a few hours and wait for the real thing.

Surely the skill and challenge of the phantom draft is to release it at least a fortnight from draft night?!

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

How do you know that? That's pretty tough information to get ur hands on I would think

um.. did you get lost?

 

[ManInTheArena]

Twomey, Quayle and Anderson have all suggested that Francis could slide to our first pick.

Maybe a chance but that's just getting our hopes up. Anyone other than Weitering, Schache, Parish and Weideman "could" slide to us, unlikely Francis will in my view and it's just people wishing.

 

[Bicks]

What's he worth?

Jeffcrowe is probably the one to ask there...
My opinion is he is the 3rd best tall in this draft after Weitering and Schache and could easily go top ten in an "uncompromised" draft, personally I'd take him with either of our picks if he was available, so much scope and development to work with.
Jeffcrowe may disagree but I rate him superior to Harry McKay, finds more footy than any young tall I can think of.

 

[dylan123]

Good on Emma Quayle for releasing a pretty accurate phantom draft year after year but it's always released the day before the draft, or sometimes the morning of. What's the point of that? By that point people are willing to hold their breath for a few hours and wait for the real thing.

Surely the skill and challenge of the phantom draft is to release it at least a fortnight from draft night?!

At the same time, it's nice to see someone hold onto something to try and make it as accurate as possible along with filling it with all the information they can rather then trying to be the first to every bit of news - regardless of whether it's true or not as seems to be the case for 95% of the media these days.

 

[cammo6556]

I suppose you do have good looking children [emoji4]

What can I say??

The milkman is a good looking guy...