List Mgmt. Draft Watch 2015

[Pugsley]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-...now-held-by-police-after-refusing-breath-test

Sliding?

At the bottom of a beer glass.

 

[Rack Watts]

Thanks lads. Did my best as an opposition supporter. Promise to pay closer attention re: Jaensch, really using this as a learning experience, as I tend to learn better in an immersive environment. Glad I got the class/speed thing right, perhaps you could use Ben McKay, as he's more of a Carlisle type CHB? 13 is probably reaching.

 

[ThreeLeggedCrow]

To 'name names' I would go H. McKay and take a punt on Burton. Adelaide should as mentioned pick up an experienced midfielder ( ie Parker) in next years trade.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Anyone else coming around to thinking Ben McKay is also in the mix with one of our picks especially if brother Harry is off the table??

I am but that would probably be one of our least preferred options I suspect.

 

[Bicks]

The latest from Emma Quayle as she goes through each club and who she thinks we may be targeting.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...o-the-afl-draft-part-one-20151118-gl2eds.html

Club-by-club guide to the AFL draft (part one)
Date
November 20, 2015 - 2:48PM

Emma Quayle
Football writer with The Age

With the AFL draft only days away, here is part one of our comprehensive guide which breaks down every club's list, and looks at the talented young footballers who can fill those holes.

Adelaide


In: Dean Gore, Paul Seedsman, Troy Menzel, Curtly Hampton, Alex Keath, Hugh Greenwood.


Out: James Podsiadly, Jack Osborn, Anthony Wilson, Brodie Martin, Sam Siggins, Brent Reilly, Patrick Dangerfield, Sam Kerridge, Matthew Wright.

Draft picks: 9, 13.

TALL FORWARDS: Taylor Walker, Josh Jenkins, Harry Dear, Mitch McGovern.

TALL DEFENDERS: Daniel Talia, Jake Lever, Kyle Hartigan, Sam Shaw, Keenan Ramsay (rookie), Alex Keath (rookie).

SMALL/MEDIUM FORWARDS: Eddie Betts, Tom Lynch, Charlie Cameron, Troy Menzel, Hugh Greenwood (rookie).

SMALL/MEDIUM DEFENDERS: Rory Laird, Kyle Cheney, Luke Brown, Curtly Hampton, Jake Kelly, Matthew Jaensch, Andy Otten, Harrison Wigg.

MIDFIELDERS: Rory Sloane, Scott Thompson, Brad Crouch, Brodie Smith, Richard Douglas, Matt Crouch, Riley Knight, Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, Paul Seedsman, Rory Atkins, Nathan van Berlo, Ricky Henderson, Mitch Grigg, Jarryd Lyons, Dean Gore.

RUCKS: Sam Jacobs, Reilly O'Brien (rookie), Luke Lowden.

Adelaide lost one of the very best players during the trade period but the four it brought in as Patrick Dangerfield departed - Menzel, Seedsman, Hampton and the untried Gore - are all 23 or under, with the potential to spend many years at the club. The middle duo will add run to the half-back line, while Menzel brings high talent. Adelaide's picks are very nicely placed, and they will have decisions to make. The first could be whether to bid for one of the two star GWS Academy kids (as well as Brisbane-bound Eric Hipwood and Ben Keays) and they surely will if no other club has. Allowing the Giants to use pick 10 on a third top-rated player could mean letting them take the player Adelaide wants for pick 13. Some more skill and run around the middle would be handy, and players like Wayne Milera, Harley Balic, Callum Ah Chee, Darcy Tucker and Aidyn Johnson are all chances at either pick. Aaron Francis, too, but he could well be gone. Much may depend on how the Crows see McGovern and Dear progressing, as they could get a look at a variety of talls. Harry McKay would have definite appeal, and Ryan Burton would make sense for them too. He's coming back from a very bad leg injury but is very talented. Could they bid for GWS player Harry Himmelberg? There would be a good chance the Giants let him through, if they did. There's been some talk about them liking Sydney father-son nominee Josh Dunkley and he would fit in well there, but their picks may be just a touch too high.

 

[Bicks]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-...now-held-by-police-after-refusing-breath-test

Sliding?

Have to question Charlie Curnow's "decision making" under pressure after that you'd reckon???

 

[Rack Watts]

You can say it to David Mackay

Whoops, I don't know how I left him off, my apologies.

Jaensch a key back in what universe would that be??
He's a HBF or HFF at best coming off an ACL.
Our one weakness is a 1st class CHB.

Thank you, I have fixed this.
Next I will be thinking Andy Otten is your ruckman, brother of Brad, right?

Not a bad effort. You should mention luke brown as our lock down defender and sloane in the midfield needs a mention too. Forget the Henderson and van berlo references.

Cheers mate, added Brown, and removed Hendo and VB.

My feeling though is that it is probably around 2/3 accurate on how this BF board regard our team going forward as per posts by better footy minds than mine through the various threads here.

Brilliant, 66.6% of the way there! I need to do more reading here. Any suggestions of quality posters that give good insight?

You haven't got much time left to cover the other teams before the draft

Haha, tell me about it!
Luckily I have done most of my mock draft.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Wayne Milera, Harley Balic, Callum Ah Chee, Darcy Tucker and Aidyn Johnson

Out of that lot I will hope that it's in following order
- Milera
- Ah Chee / Tucker
- Balic
- Johnson
I think there is no chance that Francis makes it to our pick. If he does, it's a no brainer for us. I also suspect that Milera will be off the board too.

 

[FAITH]

Anyone else coming around to thinking Ben McKay is also in the mix with one of our picks especially if brother Harry is off the table??

hope not.
also hopefully we dont get tucker, dont really think he is worth 13.

 

[cammo6556]

The latest from Emma Quayle as she goes through each club and who she thinks we may be targeting.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...o-the-afl-draft-part-one-20151118-gl2eds.html

Club-by-club guide to the AFL draft (part one)
Date
November 20, 2015 - 2:48PM

Emma Quayle
Football writer with The Age

With the AFL draft only days away, here is part one of our comprehensive guide which breaks down every club's list, and looks at the talented young footballers who can fill those holes.

Adelaide


In: Dean Gore, Paul Seedsman, Troy Menzel, Curtly Hampton, Alex Keath, Hugh Greenwood.


Out: James Podsiadly, Jack Osborn, Anthony Wilson, Brodie Martin, Sam Siggins, Brent Reilly, Patrick Dangerfield, Sam Kerridge, Matthew Wright.

Draft picks: 9, 13.

TALL FORWARDS: Taylor Walker, Josh Jenkins, Harry Dear, Mitch McGovern.

TALL DEFENDERS: Daniel Talia, Jake Lever, Kyle Hartigan, Sam Shaw, Keenan Ramsay (rookie), Alex Keath (rookie).

SMALL/MEDIUM FORWARDS: Eddie Betts, Tom Lynch, Charlie Cameron, Troy Menzel, Hugh Greenwood (rookie).

SMALL/MEDIUM DEFENDERS: Rory Laird, Kyle Cheney, Luke Brown, Curtly Hampton, Jake Kelly, Matthew Jaensch, Andy Otten, Harrison Wigg.

MIDFIELDERS: Rory Sloane, Scott Thompson, Brad Crouch, Brodie Smith, Richard Douglas, Matt Crouch, Riley Knight, Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, Paul Seedsman, Rory Atkins, Nathan van Berlo, Ricky Henderson, Mitch Grigg, Jarryd Lyons, Dean Gore.

RUCKS: Sam Jacobs, Reilly O'Brien (rookie), Luke Lowden.

Adelaide lost one of the very best players during the trade period but the four it brought in as Patrick Dangerfield departed - Menzel, Seedsman, Hampton and the untried Gore - are all 23 or under, with the potential to spend many years at the club. The middle duo will add run to the half-back line, while Menzel brings high talent. Adelaide's picks are very nicely placed, and they will have decisions to make. The first could be whether to bid for one of the two star GWS Academy kids (as well as Brisbane-bound Eric Hipwood and Ben Keays) and they surely will if no other club has. Allowing the Giants to use pick 10 on a third top-rated player could mean letting them take the player Adelaide wants for pick 13. Some more skill and run around the middle would be handy, and players like Wayne Milera, Harley Balic, Callum Ah Chee, Darcy Tucker and Aidyn Johnson are all chances at either pick. Aaron Francis, too, but he could well be gone. Much may depend on how the Crows see McGovern and Dear progressing, as they could get a look at a variety of talls. Harry McKay would have definite appeal, and Ryan Burton would make sense for them too. He's coming back from a very bad leg injury but is very talented. Could they bid for GWS player Harry Himmelberg? There would be a good chance the Giants let him through, if they did. There's been some talk about them liking Sydney father-son nominee Josh Dunkley and he would fit in well there, but their picks may be just a touch too high.

I like how she didn't mention Dave Mackay

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Anyone else coming around to thinking Ben McKay is also in the mix with one of our picks especially if brother Harry is off the table??

Yep

 

[GrommoT]

Any suggestions of quality posters that give good insight?

Ha ha, yeah ... nah ... not a chance am I going there


Another player we're pretty excited about is Riley Knight

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31

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181cm

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80kg

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Fwd

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Last 5

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6.7

3star

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7.8

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.6

5star

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0.7

4star

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11.0

3star

K

5.0

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6.0

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2.8

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2.6

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[Rack Watts]

Another player we're pretty excited about is Riley Knight.

He has a baller name at least
I'll pay closer attention to him this season. Just gotten Foxtel, so I will finally be able to watch all games.

 

[Sanders]

Buck has Oliver in the 20s ffs enough said.

What pick did Oliver go?

 

[NTRabbit]

What pick did Oliver go?

8, a head back from McEvoy and a length behind Schofield

 

[Messiah]

He was 187cm when he started school

I checked my records and he was 206 cm in 2001, age 19.

 

[simmo97]

FINAL DRAFT ORDER
Rookie list promotions are included among the compulsory minimum of three selections that each club must have at the draft, but the names of these players will not be formally read out at the draft.

ROUND ONE
1. Carlton
2. Brisbane Lions
3. Melbourne (received from Gold Coast in an exchange of picks)
4. Essendon
5. Essendon (received from St Kilda as part of the trade for Jake Carlisle)
6. Gold Coast (received from Melbourne in an exchange of picks)
7. Melbourne (received from GWS as part of the trade for Tom Bugg; originally received by GWS from Collingwood as part of the trade for Adam Treloar)
8. Carlton (received from GWS as part of the trade for Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips and Liam Sumner)
9. Adelaide (received from Geelong as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
10. Greater Western Sydney (received from Melbourne as part of the trade for Tom Bugg; earlier received by Melbourne from Gold Coast in an exchange of picks, originally received by Gold Coast from Port Adelaide as part of the trade for Charlie Dixon)
11. Carlton (received from Western Bulldogs via a pick exchange)
12. Richmond
13. Adelaide
14. St Kilda (received from the Sydney Swans as part of the Jake Carlisle-Craig Bird trade)
15. Hawthorn (received from North Melbourne as part of the trade for Jed Anderson)
16. Gold Coast (received from Fremantle as part of the trade for Harley Bennell)
17. North Melbourne (received from the Brisbane Lions as part of James Aish-Ryan Bastinac deal; originally received by the Brisbane Lions from West Coast via a trade for Jack Redden)
18. Hawthorn
END OF ROUND ONE
19. Carlton (received from Richmond via a trade for Chris Yarran; earlier received by Richmond from Gold Coast as part of the Charlie Dixon trade; received by Gold Coast from Greater Western Sydney via a trade in 2012; traded to the Giants by Fremantle in 2011; originally received by the Dockers as compensation for Rhys Palmer)
ROUND TWO
20. Western Bulldogs (received from Carlton via a pick exchange)
21. Western Bulldogs (received from Carlton via a pick exchange; originally received by Carlton from Brisbane Lions as part of the trade for Tom Bell)
22. Fremantle (received from Gold Coast as part of the trade for Harley Bennell)
23. West Coast (received from the Sydney Swans via an exchange of picks; originally received by the Sydney Swans from Essendon as part of the Jake Carlisle-Craig Bird trade)
24. Essendon (on-traded from the Swans as part of the deal for Jake Carlisle, originally from St Kilda)
25. Essendon (received from Melbourne as part of the trade for Jake Melksham)
26. North Melbourne (received from Collingwood as part of James Aish-Ryan Bastinac deal)
27. Collingwood (received from Greater Western Sydney via a pick exchange)
28. North Melbourne (received from Collingwood as part of James Aish-Ryan Bastinac deal; earlier received by Collingwood from GWS as part of the trade for Adam Treloar; earlier received by GWS from Carlton as part of the trade for Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips and Liam Sumner; earlier received by Carlton from Adelaide as part of the trade for Troy Menzel; originally received by Adelaide from Geelong as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
29. Gold Coast (received from Melbourne in an exchange of picks, originally received by Melbourne from Port Adelaide as part of the trade for Jimmy Toumpas)
30. Western Bulldogs
31. West Coast (received from Gold Coast as part of the trade for Matt Rosa; originally received by Gold Coast from Richmond as part of the trade for Charlie Dixon)
32. Port Adelaide (received from Melbourne as part of a pick exchange in Jimmy Toumpas trade; originally from Adelaide)
33. Sydney Swans
34. Greater Western Sydney (received from Collingwood via a pick exchange; originally received by Collingwood from North Melbourne as part of James Aish-Ryan Bastinac trade)
35. Fremantle (received from Gold Coast via a pick exchange; originally received by Gold Coast from Fremantle as part of the trade for Harley Bennell)
36. Sydney Swans (received from the Sydney Swans via an exchange of picks)
37. Sydney Swans (received from the Sydney Swans via an exchange of picks; originally received as compensation for losing free agent Scott Selwood)
38. Brisbane Lions (received from North Melbourne as part of James Aish-Ryan Bastinac deal; originally received by North Melbourne from Hawthorn as part of the trade for Jed Anderson)
END OF ROUND TWO
39. Brisbane Lions (received as compensation for losing free agent Matthew Leuenberger)
40. Brisbane Lions (received from North Melbourne as part of James Aish-Ryan Bastinac deal; earlier received by North Melbourne from Hawthorn as part of the trade for Jed Anderson; originally received by the Hawks as compensation for losing free agent Matthew Suckling)
ROUND THREE
41. Brisbane Lions (received from Carlton as part of the trade for Tom Bell)
42. Greater Western Sydney (received from Melbourne as part of the Tom Bugg trade; originally received by Melbourne from Gold Coast in an exchange of picks)
43. Sydney Swans (received from Essendon as part of the Jake Carlisle-Craig Bird trade)
44. St Kilda
45. Melbourne
46. North Melbourne (receieved from Collingwood has part of James Aish-Ryan Bastinac deal)
47. Hawthorn (received from GWS in an exchange of picks)
48. Port Adelaide (received from Gold Coast as part of the trade for Charlie Dixon; originally received by Gold Coast from Geelong as part of the trade for Zac Smith)
49. Melbourne (received from Port Adelaide as part of the trade for Jimmy Toumpas)
50. Western Bulldogs
51. Richmond
52. Greater Western Sydney (received from Collingwood via a pick exchange; earlier received by Collingwood from North Melbourne as part of James Aish-Ryan Bastinac trade; earlier received by North Melbourne from Gold Coast as part of the trade for Daniel Currie; earlier received by Gold Coast from Geelong as part of the trade for Zac Smith; originally received by Geelong from Adelaide as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
53. Sydney Swans
54. Greater Western Sydney (received from Hawthorn in an exchange of picks; originallyreceived by Hawthorn from North Melbourne as part of the trade for Jed Anderson)
55. Gold Coast (received from Fremantle via a pick exchange)
56. Essendon (received from West Coast as part of the trade for Jonathan Giles)
57. Greater Western Sydney (received from Hawthorn)
ROUND FOUR
58. Carlton
59. Carlton (received from the Brisbane Lions as part of the trade for Tom Bell)
60. Fremantle (received from Gold Coast via a pick exchange)
61. West Coast (received from Essendon as part of the trade for Jonathan Giles)
62. Greater Western Sydney (received from Collingwood via a pick exchange; originally received by Collingwood from St Kilda as part of the trade for Nathan Freeman)
63. Greater Western Sydney (received from Melbourne as part of the Tom Bugg trade)
64. Collingwood (received from Greater Western Sydney via a pick exchange)
65. Geelong
66. St Kilda (received from Collingwood as part of the trade for Nathan Freeman, earlier received by Collingwood from Melbourne as part of the trade for Jeremy Howe; originally from Port Adelaide)
67. North Melbourne
68. Fremantle
69. West Coast
70. Hawthorn
ROUND FIVE
71. Collingwood (received from Greater Western Sydney via a pick exchange; originally received by Greater Western Sydney from Carlton as part of the trade for Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips and Liam Sumner)
72. Gold Coast
73. Essendon
74. Collingwood
75. Collingwood (received from Greater Western Sydney via a pick exchange)
76. Geelong
77. Port Adelaide
78. Richmond
79. North Melbourne
80. Fremantle
81. West Coast
ROUND SIX
82. Essendon
83. Geelong
84. Richmond
ROUND SEVEN
85. Carlton
86. Essendon
87. Geelong
ROUND EIGHT
88. Geelong
ROUND NINE
89. Geelong

 

[latinoheat]

The latest from Emma Quayle as she goes through each club and who she thinks we may be targeting.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...o-the-afl-draft-part-one-20151118-gl2eds.html

Club-by-club guide to the AFL draft (part one)
Date
November 20, 2015 - 2:48PM

Emma Quayle
Football writer with The Age

With the AFL draft only days away, here is part one of our comprehensive guide which breaks down every club's list, and looks at the talented young footballers who can fill those holes.

Adelaide


In: Dean Gore, Paul Seedsman, Troy Menzel, Curtly Hampton, Alex Keath, Hugh Greenwood.


Out: James Podsiadly, Jack Osborn, Anthony Wilson, Brodie Martin, Sam Siggins, Brent Reilly, Patrick Dangerfield, Sam Kerridge, Matthew Wright.

Draft picks: 9, 13.

TALL FORWARDS: Taylor Walker, Josh Jenkins, Harry Dear, Mitch McGovern.

TALL DEFENDERS: Daniel Talia, Jake Lever, Kyle Hartigan, Sam Shaw, Keenan Ramsay (rookie), Alex Keath (rookie).

SMALL/MEDIUM FORWARDS: Eddie Betts, Tom Lynch, Charlie Cameron, Troy Menzel, Hugh Greenwood (rookie).

SMALL/MEDIUM DEFENDERS: Rory Laird, Kyle Cheney, Luke Brown, Curtly Hampton, Jake Kelly, Matthew Jaensch, Andy Otten, Harrison Wigg.

MIDFIELDERS: Rory Sloane, Scott Thompson, Brad Crouch, Brodie Smith, Richard Douglas, Matt Crouch, Riley Knight, Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, Paul Seedsman, Rory Atkins, Nathan van Berlo, Ricky Henderson, Mitch Grigg, Jarryd Lyons, Dean Gore.

RUCKS: Sam Jacobs, Reilly O'Brien (rookie), Luke Lowden.

Adelaide lost one of the very best players during the trade period but the four it brought in as Patrick Dangerfield departed - Menzel, Seedsman, Hampton and the untried Gore - are all 23 or under, with the potential to spend many years at the club. The middle duo will add run to the half-back line, while Menzel brings high talent. Adelaide's picks are very nicely placed, and they will have decisions to make. The first could be whether to bid for one of the two star GWS Academy kids (as well as Brisbane-bound Eric Hipwood and Ben Keays) and they surely will if no other club has. Allowing the Giants to use pick 10 on a third top-rated player could mean letting them take the player Adelaide wants for pick 13. Some more skill and run around the middle would be handy, and players like Wayne Milera, Harley Balic, Callum Ah Chee, Darcy Tucker and Aidyn Johnson are all chances at either pick. Aaron Francis, too, but he could well be gone. Much may depend on how the Crows see McGovern and Dear progressing, as they could get a look at a variety of talls. Harry McKay would have definite appeal, and Ryan Burton would make sense for them too. He's coming back from a very bad leg injury but is very talented. Could they bid for GWS player Harry Himmelberg? There would be a good chance the Giants let him through, if they did. There's been some talk about them liking Sydney father-son nominee Josh Dunkley and he would fit in well there, but their picks may be just a touch too high.

Interesting it's the first time Aidyn Johnson has been mentioned with an early round pick

 

[Redleg Crow]

G'day lads, sorry for the intrusion.
Just finished a bit of a write up on Adelaide's list and draft needs.
It's my first time writing in this medium, and would love some feedback.

Cheers
BPB

http://footydraft.org/2015/11/20/adelaide-list-and-draft-preview/

Nice work!

 

[Sanders]

Interesting it's the first time Aidyn Johnson has been mentioned with an early round pick

Nobody knows nothing. If phantom drafts were printed on soft absorbent paper they'd be worth something

 

[GrommoT]

0.22c per sheet?

Spoiler

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Got to admit, I have absolutely no idea how this Academy bidding thing is working.

Anyone else clueless and just pretending to understand by staying quiet?

PS and no, I don't want someone to try to explain it to me.

 

[RippaRiley43]

G'day lads, sorry for the intrusion.
Just finished a bit of a write up on Adelaide's list and draft needs.
It's my first time writing in this medium, and would love some feedback.

Cheers
BPB

http://footydraft.org/2015/11/20/adelaide-list-and-draft-preview/

Not too bad, always nice to get an outsider's perspective, but a few things:
1. You rate Mackay too highly. Nobody here thinks he's a good wingman.
2. Where's Sloane in the midfield write-up? A bit insulting that Mackay is there but Sloane is not.
3. When did Talia re-sign?
4. Brodie Smith, not Brody Smith

 

[FR0GGY]

Got to admit, I have absolutely no idea how this Academy bidding thing is working.

Anyone else clueless and just pretending to understand by staying quiet?

PS and no, I don't want someone to try to explain it to me.

You just stick your hand in the air when it's your turn and say 5 Cougars thanks. Sorry for explaining it.

 

[Red mist]

My mail is whoever we get at 9 will be ranked 3rd on our list

How about 4 or 5. 100 scenarios according to Reid. And the computer will keep spitting out numbers as they progress on the night.