List Mgmt. Draft Watch 2015

[Scorpus]

You go with best available at pick 9 and pick 13 and then you work around that.

You go best available excluding player types we don't need, eg. key defenders

 

[Scorpus]

I don't put a lot of weight on the Morrish Medal, Oliver was probably helped in winning it due to not playing in the carnival or having AIS commitments.

When you look at the last few winners.

2014 Alex Carr
2013 Jacob Chisari; Ben Cavarra; George Cameron; Josh Scott
2012 Nick Graham
2011 Alex Benbow
2010 Dyson Heppell; Jackson Sketcher
2009 Anton Woods
2008 Farran Priest; Jarryd Blair
2007 Matthew Kreuzer
2006 Fortunato Caruso
2005 Fortunato Caruso

Not exactly a long history of the TAC Cup B&F going on to have an impact at AFL level.

Who is this Fortunato bloke? Looks like he wasn't very... fortunate with his AFL career

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

You go best available excluding player types we don't need, eg. key defenders

Is this where people say Sam Bowie?

 

[Vader]

You go best available excluding player types we don't need, eg. key defenders

In other words.. we go the best available midfielder. We don't need KPFs or KPDs or ruckmen.

 

[Vader]

Who is this Fortunato bloke? Looks like he wasn't very... fortunate with his AFL career

From what I remember reading about him, he made Ian Callinan look like a giant.

 

[Bacon8]

From what I remember reading about him, he made Ian Callinan look like a giant.

4 seasons at the Bloods.

Was 170cm or so.

 

[hey shorty]

Who is this Fortunato bloke? Looks like he wasn't very... fortunate with his AFL career

Played at VFL level with some success and also here with Westies I think. No AFL career.

Joke 3/10

 

[Scorpus]

In other words.. we go the best available midfielder. We don't need KPFs or KPDs or ruckmen.

We don't need ruckman (from the main draft), KPDs (Hartigan, Talia, Lever, Shaw, Otten are enough), medium/small defenders (Brown, Wigg, Laird, Cheney, Kelly are enough), or half-back flanks (we just traded in Hampton and Seedsman, and we already have Jaensch, Smith, Henderson, etc.).

We do need one KPF (we only have Dear and Ramsey as backups for Tex, both late picks), midfielders, and potentially utilities

 

[Scorpus]

Joke 3/10

That's being generous IMO

 

[dylan123]

We don't need KPFs or KPDs

Rubbish.

 

[Pdub]

In other words.. we go the best available midfielder. We don't need KPFs or KPDs or ruckmen.

I disagree, we do need KPFs. They take 5 years to play good consistent football and in 5 years time Tex will be 30. They cost an arm and a leg to get them by trade so for life after Tex we need to find an 18yr old future forward if not this year, in the next 2 years. Get him this year and when Tex is 30 the new guy can take on the #1 role in the forward line and extend Tex's career.

 

[Alex99]

Is this where people say Sam Bowie?

Portland Trailblazers (ha ha twice) should have taken Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant instead of Sam Bowie and Greg Oden.

Then traded Clide Drexler to keep Jordan.

You draft for talent. Every single time.
Then you trade for needs.

 

[Pugsley]

i hope so, our club was at its best when the majority were SA boys, dont think we have enough atm.
Francis and Milera would be ideal for me.

I'd be happy with that,

 

[mattymac]

B: Laird, Talia, Brown
HB: Francis, Lever, Hibberd
C: Smith, Sloane, Knight
HF: Menzel, Walker, Lynch
F: Betts, Jenkins, Cameron
R: Jacobs, Neale, BCrouch
I/C: MCrouch, O'Brien, Douglas, Hampton

yeah, I like that.

That half back line has a combined total of zero experience and would get penetrated unspeakably

 

[Alex99]

You go best available excluding player types we don't need, eg. key defenders

No.

You take best available player every single time and trade out what you don't need.

It's called being ruthless. If best available is a key defender, we draft him and make it work.

 

[Scorpus]

No.

You take best available player every single time and trade out what you don't need.

It's called being ruthless. If best available is a key defender, we draft him and make it work.

Unless Weitering slipped to Pick 9 there is absolutely no way we are picking up a KPD with our picks.

However to the AFC we might still be selecting "best available" as our rankings wouldn't place defenders very high in the ranks

 

[Pugsley]

No.

You take best available player every single time and trade out what you don't need.

It's called being ruthless. If best available is a key defender, we draft him and make it work.

He becomes multi-skilled, position wise.

 

[Alex99]

Unless Weitering slipped to Pick 9 there is absolutely no way we are picking up a KPD with our picks.

However to the AFC we might still be selecting "best available" as our rankings wouldn't place defenders very high in the ranks

Would a key defender be the best available at pick 9?

 

[Alex99]

He becomes multi-skilled, position wise.

Pyke wants to play total football.

 

[Scorpus]

Would a key defender be the best available at pick 9?

Probably not

 

[Pugsley]

Would a key defender be the best available at pick 9?

Riley Bonner or Luke Surman from Norwood.


I'd take Bonner at 9.

 

[mattymac]

i hope so, our club was at its best when the majority were SA boys, dont think we have enough atm.
Francis and Milera would be ideal for me.

This. Feels a bit mercenary atm. Felt a bit off in the hawthorn final when Bruce pointed out we had more Victorians than the hawks.

Nothing against Victorians, and you may well get the odd Sloane that falls in love with the state and the club, but I want more Smith and Laird type local boys with passion. Passion can provide that extra 1-2% that can be the difference

 

[Alex99]

Riley Bonner or Luke Surman from Norwood.

What are Luke Surman height and weight?

Bonner is 190cm - that's a 3rd talk or utility these days. Not enough height to be considered a key defender I would have thought.

 

[Vader]

We don't need ruckman (from the main draft), KPDs (Hartigan, Talia, Lever, Shaw, Otten are enough), medium/small defenders (Brown, Wigg, Laird, Cheney, Kelly are enough), or half-back flanks (we just traded in Hampton and Seedsman, and we already have Jaensch, Smith, Henderson, etc.).

We do need one KPF (we only have Dear and Ramsey as backups for Tex, both late picks), midfielders, and potentially utilities

We also have Otten, who is quite capable of playing as a KPF when needed. He wouldn't be the first one chosen, but he was picked ahead of LJ a few years back. Lowden is also (allegedly) capable of playing as a KPF if required.

 

[Vader]

I disagree, we do need KPFs. They take 5 years to play good consistent football and in 5 years time Tex will be 30. They cost an arm and a leg to get them by trade so for life after Tex we need to find an 18yr old future forward if not this year, in the next 2 years. Get him this year and when Tex is 30 the new guy can take on the #1 role in the forward line and extend Tex's career.

That's why we drafted them last year. Don't need to go to the same well two years running.