Recruiting Draft Watch 2020

[eDPS]

Spoiler: eDPS 2020 Phantom Draft

Spoiler: Lore's 2020 Draft Order

Any issues with the below please tag Lore in this thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-future-pick-tracker.1229399/unread/

Spoiler: Draft Central Draft Guide

 

[citizen-erased]

Does Jobe count? Or not because he was father son?

nah. landed in our lap. otherwise i'd count Joey too.

 

[ant555]

I think this will give evidence to why Dodoro needs to go.

Why is Clarke still on the list? What is Snelling going to bring that Ham brings or vice versa? what are we doing about the constant injries to guys we've been waiting 5 years to come good on? (looks at Jayde Laverde). We have so many almost or nothing players that clog up our list. We make 4 harsh decisions (albeit in a better year than 2020) and the list would give us much more flexibility, instead we are moving Dylan Clarke

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Dylan Clarke

Age

27

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

6.1

2star

HB

8.8

5star

M

1.9

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

6.6

5star

CL

3.4

5star

and Marty Gleeson (yay!) to the rookie list. Why not pay them out and go for kids?

Clarke is still on the list because he has a contract. Sure we could pay him out but he is not on big coin so it impacts how many we can keep on the list. Same with Gleeson. Under contract. With the cap coming down placing them on the rookie list actually helps us take 5 kids in the ND. We could not delist either as they where contracted so their salary counts either way.
I could not care if Laverde went but he is cheap forward insurance.

Snelling has been one of our better players and one of only a few that plays the game in the style we should. Sure he is just an average player but you keep guys like him until you replace them with a better version who plays the same way.

Finally we did not have the picks to cut all of them and replace them in the draft.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Clarke is still on the list because he has a contract. Sure we could pay him out but he is not on big coin so it impacts how many we can keep on the list. Same with Gleeson. Under contract. With the cap coming down placing them on the rookie list actually helps us take 5 kids in the ND. We could not delist either as they where contracted so their salary counts either way.
I could not care if Laverde went but he is cheap forward insurance.

Snelling has been one of our better players and one of only a few that plays the game in the style we should. Sure he is just an average player but you keep guys like him until you replace them with a better version who plays the same way.

Finally we did not have the picks to cut all of them and replace them in the draft.

Also gives us the flexibility to cut more next year depending on how hard we want to target that draft (spoilers, it will likely be hard).

 

[Lore]

Awkward moment when the club releases a draft preview of the national recruiting manager talking about the draft and checking the draft order on the AFL website... and happens to highlight the part that has errors in it


Pretty sure Melbourne only has one round four pick tied to their finishing position next year, and Adelaide and Brisbane can’t share it even if they want to.

 

[11kgm]

Bruhn is Parish 2.0 but with injuries

 

[Nicholas61]

We actually get monstered by teams that continually out mark us just as much as contested footy. We also have an issue with a lack of actual midfield class and not just big.

A 200cm wingman with elite endurance to get to contests would be nice.

 

[Atavistic]

Bruhn is Parish 2.0 but with injuries

Kavanagh 2.0.

 

[ant555]

A 200cm wingman with elite endurance to get to contests would be nice.

It is why I like him.

 

[ant555]

Bruhn is Parish 2.0 but with injuries

Horse shit. Bruhn has a lot better skill level than Parish.

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Cut out the middle man and let's just pre-emptively
melt now

 

[Keystone agony]

Maybe we have an eye to the future and see big body mids say next year as a strength?

Well Bruhn over Perkins certainly reinvigorated chat before it even has occured

Maybe we dont think Perkins will make it as a pure midfielder whereas we do with Bruhn. Maybe we arnt the only one

Or are Dunkley and Oliver very gettable at the end of this year?

Edit: Maybe Zac M is goodbye

 

[Lore]

Preview | 2020 NAB AFL Draft

National recruiting manager Rob Forster-Knight discusses the Bombers' draft hand and plans ahead of the 2020 NAB AFL Draft.

www.essendonfc.com.au

 

[Zach Package]

Bruhn is Parish 2.0 but with injuries

He wishes, Parish was and still is a rolled gold guaranteed 250 gamer with clamps for hands with absolutely no concerns over his body who couldn’t have done more as a junior footballer.

Bruhn could well be better but he’s a bit of a different animal given what he’s done and where he’s at, which is not a lot and with little exposed form.

 

[Nicholas61]

Horse sh*t. Bruhn has a lot better skill level than Parish.

Would be interesting on the state of his knee and what the medical has returned. If he has had significant amounts of cartilage removed from his knee I would prefer we avoid.

 

[ant555]

Maybe we have an eye to the future and see big body mids say next year as a strength?

Well Bruhn over Perkins certainly reinvigorated chat before it even has occured

Maybe we dont think Perkins will make it as a pure midfielder whereas we do with Bruhn. Maybe we arnt the only one

I think the choice would be between Perkins and Henry.
The Bruhn selection would be based on best midfielder with exposed form.
Then we would be picking Reid or Cox for best KP prospect.

 

[Haychh]

Maybe this was a phantom draft and not the real thing, maybe Twomey doesn’t have any good intel on us because we’re keeping the cards close to our chest, maybe let’s wait until draft night before cracking each other’s heads open and feasting on the goo inside

 

[citizen-erased]

He wishes, Parish was and still is a rolled gold guaranteed 250 gamer with clamps for hands with absolutely no concerns over his body who couldn’t have done more as a junior footballer.

Bruhn could well be better but he’s a bit of a different animal given what he’s done and where he’s at, which is not a lot and with little exposed form.

I feel Parish is underrated.
Kid has a great kick when he's got time and space to use it. And some time to ply his trade.

Bruhn may be classier, but do we really need Bruhn on top of Parish, Shiel, Merrett, McGrath and Caldwell.

 

[ant555]

Would be interesting on the state of his knee and what the medical has returned. If he has had significant amounts of cartilage removed from his knee I would prefer we avoid.

You think this info is not available to the clubs and he would not have slid out of the top 20 if it was a real issue ?
Have had a word with a few people that know what is in his medical testing. They say he is in good shape.

 

[citizen-erased]

Maybe this was a phantom draft and not the real thing, maybe Twomey doesn’t have any good intel on us because we’re keeping the cards close to our chest, maybe let’s wait until draft night before cracking each other’s heads open and feasting on the goo inside

this is 2020 man. there's no time to waste
feast! feast!

 

[Keystone agony]

I think the choice would be between Perkins and Henry.
The Bruhn selection would be based on best midfielder with exposed form.
Then we would be picking Reid or Cox for best KP prospect.

Yeh i think your right i was saying to look at a Powell/Macrae as a safe bonafide mid it seems maybe were more into Bruhn (Maybe watched a fair bit of Geelong Falcons)

Henry might have as much ability going into the middle as Perkins does

From memory the older Henry has a very decent tank and finishes quite well in the cats time trials

 

[JayJ20]

You don't just select players based on immediate need though, especially with top 10 picks. If we don't rate two of Perkins, McInnes, Bruhn or O'Driscoll as top 10 picks then why select them there? May as well have traded two top 10's for Dunkley! I'm also not buying into the "big mid" hype. Sure we need an inside mid, but they don't need to be "big" to be able to win the ball inside and get dish it to the outside runners, they do however need to be AFL quality! If you look at the bigger picture you really do need to take the best available (within reason of course). Next year we can quite easily trade or acquire via FA a Dunkley type and solve our inside mid woes instantly. Fact is whoever we draft on Wednesday is unlikely to have a major impact for at least another 3 years (or longer as I mentioned earlier)...

McInnes, Bruhn and Perkins are long term options, both immediate and long term needs. None of them will likely play in the midfield for at least the first two years. What we need to identify is career trajectory. Who has the attributes to be the best in the draft?

Henry can and will likely be better than McInnes in the first couple of years, but what happens when McInnes fills out and develops the tank to play midfield? What about when Perkins fills out and develops the tank to play midfield?
Who will be the next Petracca, Dunkley, Bont, Cripps etc? Our aversion to selecting big bodied mids is not a myth.

We're also not guaranteed to get a trade request from Dunkley so why not look for a Dunkley type? We'd need another option if it doesn't happen. If it was as easy as that, Watson wouldn't be our only A-grade big bodied mid in 16 years. I look forward to another 6 years of talking about big bodied mids. Might even have a discussion about turning Henry into a big bodied inside mid.

 

[ant555]

I feel Parish is underrated.
Kid has a great kick when he's got time and space to use it. And some time to ply his trade.

Bruhn may be classier, but do we really need Bruhn on top of Parish, Shiel, Merrett, McGrath and Caldwell.

You can never have too much class in the midfield. If we can produce a couple of marking wingers it will help lessen the need for the inside player we also need.
I would consider a bit of a reach for the big inside midfielder at 8 which will be after 10 in the end but I also have no issue with drafting what most say is a genuine classy midfielder with good skills.

 

[Duckworth]

Preview | 2020 NAB AFL Draft

National recruiting manager Rob Forster-Knight discusses the Bombers' draft hand and plans ahead of the 2020 NAB AFL Draft.

www.essendonfc.com.au

So 'not recruiting the same type of player'. At least we won't get 3 flankers.

 

[andleanback]

I know they do but I am giving you a free tip here. You always need as much info as you can glean in this game. Recruiters talk to each other all the time about players.
And yes you can get a SANFL pass but in a normal year when NAB league is up and running there is plenty of vision that is not simply available to everyone and on top of that all the Champion Data stuff is limited to Clubs and media.

At the end of the day you make your own mind up but the best advice I was ever given was compile as much info as possible. That is why I have always read all the player profiles I can. You will find most of the time it consolidates what you already know. Cal does a sh*t load of work in this area and has had to. It is simply cheap to keep firing shots at him.

I dont know what you are trying to say about needing much information as possible and what that has to do with twomey's opinions. i Still read his stuff, im more talking about his so called sources. Most people by november have a fair idea where a majority of the crop are placed heading into the draft, yet if his sources that everyone seems to talk up were so accurate he wouldnt be so far off his evaluations of players. For example last year i know a lot of clubs didnt have ralph-smith and bianco anywhere near the top 40, yet he had bianco near the top 20 for a majority of the year (bias much he sure loves talking up the aps boys). While a lot of the recruiting fraternity had kozzie pickett well inside the 1st round for most of the year, yet he only figured it out when he knew who was invited to 1st round draft night and suddenly kozzie was a 'bolter', which isnt true. While a lot of recruiters didnt have worrell in the first round due to personality issues and he was lucky to be taken at 28. And many recruiters knew Deven robertson

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Deven Robertson

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

wouldnt go first round due to his kicking, even after dominating champs, Cal had him inside 10 for the 2nd half of the year. So if these sources that always give him all this inside knowledge, wouldnt they alert him that he was a tad off the mark and had players way too high or mention how highly they rate others that he wasnt talking about. So hence my skepticism when people say he gets great inside information.

 

[Fin ice Smuggler]

nah. landed in our lap. otherwise i'd count Joey too.

Could’ve passed on him, like fletchers son. Could’ve lost Joe to Swans before his draft year also had Dodoro and team put work into him.

Cyril was right under our nose, would he have become elite if drafted at Essendon or would our medical staff caused him to fail.

Did our medical staff fail Gumby and Myers?