Recruiting Draft Watch 2020

[eDPS]

Spoiler: eDPS 2020 Phantom Draft

Spoiler: Lore's 2020 Draft Order

Any issues with the below please tag Lore in this thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-future-pick-tracker.1229399/unread/

Spoiler: Draft Central Draft Guide

 

[eth-dog]

Okay, realistically it comes down to this, and who I'm projecting to be our picks:

Option 1: Trade 6 and 7 up to 2, take 2, 8 to the draft and match bids for Brand and Eyre
Option 2: Take 6, 7 and 8 to the draft, downgrade someone to the rookie list or delist someone to make up 5 senior list spots and match bids for Brand and Eyre.
Option 3: Trade 6 for 14 and Collingwood's future first and do the same as option 2.

Option 1 I think we end up with McDonald and O'Driscoll
Option 2 I think we end up with Reid, Perkins and O'Driscoll
Option 3 I think we wnd up with Perkins, O'Driscoll and Baldwin

 

[Don Won]

I mean there are more obvious candidates for me. Johnson, Mozzie, Cahill, Bryan and Clarke all spring to mind

Could you downgrade Johnson, Cahill, Clarke or Bryan? I thought if they were contracted we wouldn't be able to, just leaving Mozzie on this list as one that we could? You seem to be all over this sort of stuff, so I'm assuming that I am missing something

 

[naraku]

I wouldn't mind looking at Sam Berry if he is around at #40

Okay, realistically it comes down to this, and who I'm projecting to be our picks:

Option 1: Trade 6 and 7 up to 2, take 2, 8 to the draft and match bids for Brand and Eyre
Option 2: Take 6, 7 and 8 to the draft, downgrade someone to the rookie list or delist someone to make up 5 senior list spots and match bids for Brand and Eyre.
Option 3: Trade 6 for 14 and Collingwood's future first and do the same as option 2.

Option 1 I think we end up with McDonald and O'Driscoll
Option 2 I think we end up with Reid, Perkins and O'Driscoll
Option 3 I think we wnd up with Perkins, O'Driscoll and Baldwin

So you're pretty sure we're getting O'Driscoll


What about Sam Berry later if we don't have to match the NGA kid's?

 

[eth-dog]

Could you downgrade Johnson, Cahill, Clarke or Bryan? I thought if they were contracted we wouldn't be able to, just leaving Mozzie on this list as one that we could? You seem to be all over this sort of stuff, so I'm assuming that I am missing something

We have before, as have other sides.

I wouldn't mind looking at Sam Berry if he is around at #40



So you're pretty sure we're getting O'Driscoll


What about Sam Berry later if we don't have to match the NGA kid's?

Sam Berry will be gone before our 3rd round pick comfortably (I doubt he gets past what is currently pick 30 for North) and if North don't bid on Brand with what is currently 39 I'd also be surprised.

 

[Lore]

Could you downgrade Johnson, Cahill, Clarke or Bryan? I thought if they were contracted we wouldn't be able to, just leaving Mozzie on this list as one that we could? You seem to be all over this sort of stuff, so I'm assuming that I am missing something

Mozzie could be put on the inactive list anyway which would open up a spot on the senior list without costing a spot on the rookie list or resulting in any of them losing their wages.

 

[eth-dog]

Mozzie could be put on the inactive list anyway which would open up a spot on the senior list without costing a spot on the rookie list or resulting in any of them losing their wages.

I'm not sure that'll hold true next season with the reduced list.

EDIT: And even if that were true it doesn't open a national draft pick or a rookie draft pick, the player would have to be brought in via DFA

 

[Lore]

I'm not sure that'll hold true next season with the reduced list.

The mid year draft is kind of pointless if you can’t make space on the list when someone is injured or retires in the preseason

 

[TheGrizz]

Mozzie could be put on the inactive list anyway which would open up a spot on the senior list without costing a spot on the rookie list or resulting in any of them losing their wages.

I thought putting them on the inactive list opened up a rookie list spot, not a senior list spot?

 

[eth-dog]

The mid year draft is kind of pointless if you can’t make space on the list when someone is injured or retires in the preseason

I don't think there'll be a mid-season draft next year either.

 

[eth-dog]

I thought putting them on the inactive list opened up a rookie list spot, not a senior list spot?

That can only be filled by using the SSP as well, which kinda defeats the purpose of it.

 

[Lore]

I don't think there'll be a mid-season draft next year either.

Well they’ve proposed a model for 2021 that involves three mid-season rookie drafts, one after round 4, one after round 12 and one after round 16... based on the ladder at the time.

Statement: Update on NGA Concessions, Pre-Season Supplementary Selection Period, NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft

The AFL has provided an update on Next Generation Academy Concessions, the Pre-Season Supplementary Selection Period and the NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft.

www.afl.com.au

 

[Bjchan13]

Okay, realistically it comes down to this, and who I'm projecting to be our picks:

Option 1: Trade 6 and 7 up to 2, take 2, 8 to the draft and match bids for Brand and Eyre
Option 2: Take 6, 7 and 8 to the draft, downgrade someone to the rookie list or delist someone to make up 5 senior list spots and match bids for Brand and Eyre.
Option 3: Trade 6 for 14 and Collingwood's future first and do the same as option 2.

Option 1 I think we end up with McDonald and O'Driscoll
Option 2 I think we end up with Reid, Perkins and O'Driscoll
Option 3 I think we wnd up with Perkins, O'Driscoll and Baldwin

Option 3 please

 

[eth-dog]

Well they’ve proposed a model for 2021 that involves three mid-season rookie drafts, one after round 4, one after round 12 and one after round 16... based on the ladder at the time.

Statement: Update on NGA Concessions, Pre-Season Supplementary Selection Period, NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft

The AFL has provided an update on Next Generation Academy Concessions, the Pre-Season Supplementary Selection Period and the NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft.

www.afl.com.au

Wow, I honestly expected them to sit tight on list numbers for at least next season and probably the season after as well before expanding it back in 2022

 

[TheGrizz]

That can only be filled by using the SSP as well, which kinda defeats the purpose of it.

Well not entirely, it defeats the purpose of gaining a list spot to use a ND pick.

Picking up another player through the SSP is still good though

 

[eth-dog]

Well not entirely, it defeats the purpose of gaining a list spot to use a ND pick.

Picking up another player through the SSP is still good though

I just assumed they'd toss the SSP stuff for at least this off season

 

[Lore]

I thought putting them on the inactive list opened up a rookie list spot, not a senior list spot?

I guess it depends on the timing.

IF it’s possible to go on the inactive list before the national draft/delisted free agency period then you could theoretically use the senior spot on a senior listed player, otherwise you can’t fill the spot because there isn’t a mechanism for it, so you just end up with a shorter senior list and more rookie spots within the maximum list size.

I’m not sure what that means for minimum list sizes if you have multiple inactive listed players and end up with less than 36 active seniors.

It’s an interesting idea. I can’t find anything that says one way or another whether there’s a timeframe for the inactive list or what would happen, as retirees would just be deleted from the list altogether if they retire before the draft (and thus before final list lodgement).

I don’t think anyone has tried it with an LTI player before draft day. I guess other than ACLs late in the season and severe fractures there aren’t too many LTIs that you know will rule someone out for a whole season in the previous October, so it’s probably rare in the first place.

 

[11kgm]

I am all for taking Reid/Cox at 6
Reid
A tall defender who will be in the mix in the top 10 given his marking ability and then capacity to set up the game from the back half with his pinpoint kicking. Reid has height on his side and although lightly framed at this stage of his development, his talents are obvious and he isn't a player who gets flustered.
or
Cox's genuine athletic abilities were on show at the Vic Metro Combine, with the versatile key-position player running 2.95 seconds over 20 metres in the sprint and also dominating in the 2km time trial with a brilliant time of 6:03 minutes. Cox can play at both ends of the ground and sometimes in the middle, having also spent portions on a wing, and he loves flying for a grab. Watch for a few clubs jostling for Cox come draft time.

Trade 7/8 for Collingwood First and First Next year
Picking up Trew
What you see is what you get with Trew, who is a genuine inside midfielder who finds the ball at will. Generally, Trew is a distributor by hand, preferring to sharply bring teammates into the game and open up space that way. After an injury-hit 2019 season, Trew was consistent for Swan Districts throughout this year to keep himself in the mix as an early second-round option.
With Collingwoods 1st this year

 

[11kgm]

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...*****-knightmare-espn-two-round-phantom-draft

Knightmare's First Phantom

Happy With Perkins/Reid don't want Injury Prone Bruhn

 

[citizen-erased]

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...*****-knightmare-espn-two-round-phantom-draft

Knightmare's First Phantom

Happy With Perkins/Reid don't want Injury Prone Bruhn

Yeah.
Would rather split 8 into Pies 1st & future 1st
Reid
Perkins
O'Driscoll

Bruhn seems like more of the same (Merrett, McGrath, Parish, Shiel, Caldwell) in terms of size.
What would he bring that the above crew doesn't?

Or if Cox can be a potential KP option
Reid
Perkins
Cox

 

[eth-dog]

Yeah.
Would rather split 8 into Pies 1st & future 1st
Reid
Perkins
O'Driscoll

Bruhn seems like more of the same (Merrett, McGrath, Parish, Shiel, Caldwell) in terms of size.
What would he bring that the above crew doesn't?

Bruhn is on outside midfielder for one unlike all of the above bar Merrett

 

[Lore]

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...*****-knightmare-espn-two-round-phantom-draft

Knightmare's First Phantom

Happy With Perkins/Reid don't want Injury Prone Bruhn

Knightmare hasn't watched much footage of SA/WA kids this year so not sure how much stock you can put in his opinions.

 

[JayJ20]

Okay, realistically it comes down to this, and who I'm projecting to be our picks:

Option 1: Trade 6 and 7 up to 2, take 2, 8 to the draft and match bids for Brand and Eyre
Option 2: Take 6, 7 and 8 to the draft, downgrade someone to the rookie list or delist someone to make up 5 senior list spots and match bids for Brand and Eyre.
Option 3: Trade 6 for 14 and Collingwood's future first and do the same as option 2.

Option 1 I think we end up with McDonald and O'Driscoll
Option 2 I think we end up with Reid, Perkins and O'Driscoll
Option 3 I think we wnd up with Perkins, O'Driscoll and Baldwin

Option 4: Trade 8 for 16 and Collingwood's future first. Trade 6 and 7 for 2.

Option 4: We end up with McDonald and O'Driscoll

 

[11kgm]

Knightmare hasn't watched much footage of SA/WA kids this year so not sure how much stock you can put in his opinions.

Normally he is good this year its just something to start a conversation with

 

[eth-dog]

Option 4: Trade 8 for 16 and Collingwood's future first. Trade 6 and 7 for 2.

Option 4: We end up with McDonald and O'Driscoll

We're doing one or the other, not both. Both Collingwood and North will demand pick 6 as part of the deal and there is very little chance O'Driscoll falls that far.

 

[Milanista28]

Ok, I think I want Perkins, Henry and Reid. Perkins and Henry can mark the ball around the ground and we desperately need that.